Open Debate

Dar~ said:
Yeah, I caught him in the general and you got him in the specific, together we make

Captain Planet!!!???
ROFL...:D

Well, he's probably taking a rest, recharging his...um, so-called not-yet-degrading nervous system. *nods*
 
Dar~ said:
In reality, attacking someone who merely made a comment based on her personal viewpoint in regards to your sigline and to some off the wall comment made by you, in an open debate format, is just a way to breed contention directed toward you. Rather than discuss your feelings in regards to her opinion, you chose to make an uneducated and illogical assessment of her character. Which was woefully out of line and also very demeaning.

All this says to me and our fellow litizens, is that you have no personal dignity and have no respect for preserving the personal dignity of other authors on this site. In reality, that translates into a split in the road. You are going in one direction, while the "locals" go another. Ultimately, this will end in you leaving because you will be ignored (not with a button, but merely disregarded). You will be ostracized from any respect within the Literotica author's community and thereby you will leave to the GB or to The Playground or maybe even an entirely new outlet for your imbecilic banter and refuse, because you wouldn't be able to hack being looked upon as the ignorant, disrespectful, pedantic, child you are.

Wow to your lack of reading comprehension. I did point out that when I said Pure was vain, I was being sarcastic. I didn't have to do that since the emoticon next to the post was a dead give away. Yet Cloudy assumed it wrong. I did explain but she continued to run her mouth to which I countered.

FatDino said:
BWAHAHAHAHA! :D

First, theories, meaning not yet proven true or false, therefore, don't use them in a debate because others can just show you theories of the opposite side. Neither side is talking facts, and neither side will ever win.

Second, how can your mind control its own function? :D How can you control the way your neurons work? Your neurons control you.

Uh...her encephalon is degrading? Mind if I tell you this? Yours is too, mine is too, and so is everyone's here, unless there's some three y/o here that I'm not aware of. :rolleyes:

The theories that I mentioned ended up being used for practical purposes. But your ignorant self wouldn't know that.

People think before speaking. You should've known that.

Everyone's encephalon is degrading but if you had paid more attention, I said that her encephalon is degrading, minus the "graceful" part.

Dar~ said:
I notice that an educated post scared him off. Wow, I wonder if mine and Dino's combined made him shoot himself in the foot...maybe his neurons misfired???

No, my time zone's different. A little thought would've helped you analyse this tiny detail.


cloudy said:
BAHAHAHAHA!

He's degrading rapidly. :D


Dar~ said:
I'm sure the photos will be in his sigline soon.

Only you'd know that.

FatDino said:
BTW, I think we should stop quoting him. What good will your putting on ignore have if we keep showing you what he posted, right? :confused:

Heh. If I was on ignore, she wouldn't be following me into other topics like she did.
 
I's considered bullying when a group of "big kids" who have been around for a long time all gang up and pick on a new kid or one who has an "attitude," chortling as they trade mean comments with each other in the victim's presence, belittling, mocking, disparaging personal characteristics, etc. It's cruel on a playground or any other place it happens, and when it gets to that point it doesn't matter who "started it" or whose "fault" it is.
 
Roxanne Appleby said:
I's considered bullying when a group of "big kids" who have been around for a long time all gang up and pick on a new kid or one who has an "attitude," chortling as they trade mean comments with each other in the victim's presence, belittling, mocking, disparaging personal characteristics, etc. It's cruel on a playground or any other place it happens, and when it gets to that point it doesn't matter who "started it" or whose "fault" it is.

So I'm mean, who cares? I thought everyone knew that already. :rolleyes:

If he wants to dish his petty shit out, he ought to be prepared to take it. First rule of the playground, dear.

Besides, Roxanne: pot, kettle. Doesn't matter if I use four-letter words and you use words of four syllables. The end result is the same.
 
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Roxanne Appleby said:
I's considered bullying when a group of "big kids" who have been around for a long time all gang up and pick on a new kid or one who has an "attitude," chortling as they trade mean comments with each other in the victim's presence, belittling, mocking, disparaging personal characteristics, etc. It's cruel on a playground or any other place it happens, and when it gets to that point it doesn't matter who "started it" or whose "fault" it is.
If he has been around long enough to have an AV, he's not a newbie and if he can belittle our intelligence, than I can damn well defend myself and point out his own failings.


http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n124/phyde1987/bighead.jpg
Cloudy . .I did, and suddenly, my world makes more sense.:D
 
Roxanne Appleby said:
I's considered bullying when a group of "big kids" who have been around for a long time all gang up and pick on a new kid or one who has an "attitude," chortling as they trade mean comments with each other in the victim's presence, belittling, mocking, disparaging personal characteristics, etc. It's cruel on a playground or any other place it happens, and when it gets to that point it doesn't matter who "started it" or whose "fault" it is.
Gee, I thought it was some kind of show of superior intellect to call people names annonymously on the internet. I thought I was just behind the times. What I find really funny is the defense that he "deserved it". As if I couldn't find hundreds of far more vile, hate-filled posts here by some of the "beloved" AHers. I love the smell of hypocracy in the morning. :rolleyes:
 
S-Des said:
Gee, I thought it was some kind of show of superior intellect to call people names annonymously on the internet. I thought I was just behind the times. What I find really funny is the defense that he "deserved it". As if I couldn't find hundreds of far more vile, hate-filled posts here by some of the "beloved" AHers. I love the smell of hypocracy in the morning. :rolleyes:

Who asked you? And who cares? You weren't even posting in this thread, but just couldn't resist coming in here to put me, and others down.

Fuck you, you self-righteous ass-kisser.

:rolleyes:
 
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S-Des said:
Gee, I thought it was some kind of show of superior intellect to call people names annonymously on the internet. I thought I was just behind the times. What I find really funny is the defense that he "deserved it". As if I couldn't find hundreds of far more vile, hate-filled posts here by some of the "beloved" AHers. I love the smell of hypocracy in the morning. :rolleyes:

Des, I have not been hateful, cruel, or vile. Until this thread and the comments made in open debate, I had been friendly and kind to NOmad. I even said how pedantic the whole thing is. I just went back and read this whole thread. NOmad made a comment, and Cloudy, playing devil's advocate said something intelligent, she is correct, an argument could be made that having two photos of oneself in their sig is vain. She wasn't yet being argumentative, just debating (as is the point of this thread) that his point in calling Pure vain (even in jest) could be considered basis for an argumentative.
Then, it degraded. He started typeifying people which as I mentioned smacks of a really bad thing. Rather than choose and educated argument, he started name calling and backing it up with groundless "facts."
So, yeah, we called him on it. I don't appreciate you or anyone saying heinous things about my character, when you don't know me, and haven't had any interaction with me. I have been around for a long time, but that doesn't give you or anyone else the right to judge my mind or my intentions when none of my posts have ever been unkind or "vile" as you like to say.
 
Dar~ said:
Des, I have not been hateful, cruel, or vile. Until this thread and the comments made in open debate, I had been friendly and kind to NOmad. I even said how pedantic the whole thing is. I just went back and read this whole thread. NOmad made a comment, and Cloudy, playing devil's advocate said something intelligent, she is correct, an argument could be made that having two photos of oneself in their sig is vain. She wasn't yet being argumentative, just debating (as is the point of this thread) that his point in calling Pure vain (even in jest) could be considered basis for an argumentative.
Then, it degraded. He started typeifying people which as I mentioned smacks of a really bad thing. Rather than choose and educated argument, he started name calling and backing it up with groundless "facts."
So, yeah, we called him on it. I don't appreciate you or anyone saying heinous things about my character, when you don't know me, and haven't had any interaction with me. I have been around for a long time, but that doesn't give you or anyone else the right to judge my mind or my intentions when none of my posts have ever been unkind or "vile" as you like to say.

But see? You're my friend, so that makes you a hateful person like me.

To be honest, I'd much rather be just the way I am, than anything like him, sanctimonious little twit that he is.
 
cloudy said:
But see? You're my friend, so that makes you a hateful person like me.

To be honest, I'd much rather be just the way I am, than anything like him, sanctimonious little twit that he is.

If I remember right, I actually pissed you off once a long time ago and then after discussion we became pretty good friends. ;) something about banana bread.:kiss:

I choose my friends for who they are and you are unchanging and that is admirable. I would rather you be you than change also. AS I don't change. I am who I am and will defend my right to be that.
 
Dar~ said:
If I remember right, I actually pissed you off once a long time ago and then after discussion we became pretty good friends. ;) something about banana bread.:kiss:

I choose my friends for who they are and you are unchanging and that is admirable. I would rather you be you than change also. AS I don't change. I am who I am and will defend my right to be that.

Des is a coward. He attacks me, and what I say, but puts me on ignore so he can't see my replies. Cowardly, indeed.
 
Dar~ said:
Des, I have not been hateful, cruel, or vile. Until this thread and the comments made in open debate, I had been friendly and kind to NOmad. I even said how pedantic the whole thing is. I just went back and read this whole thread. NOmad made a comment, and Cloudy, playing devil's advocate said something intelligent, she is correct, an argument could be made that having two photos of oneself in their sig is vain. She wasn't yet being argumentative, just debating (as is the point of this thread) that his point in calling Pure vain (even in jest) could be considered basis for an argumentative.
Then, it degraded. He started typeifying people which as I mentioned smacks of a really bad thing. Rather than choose and educated argument, he started name calling and backing it up with groundless "facts."
So, yeah, we called him on it. I don't appreciate you or anyone saying heinous things about my character, when you don't know me, and haven't had any interaction with me. I have been around for a long time, but that doesn't give you or anyone else the right to judge my mind or my intentions when none of my posts have ever been unkind or "vile" as you like to say.
I never said you were hateful or vile. As you said, I don't know you, but you seem like a decent person, or I wouldn't have bothered. Life is too short to waste on people that aren't worth it. However, your claim of innocence about your posts doesn't ring true when you said this...


I notice that an educated post scared him off. Wow, I wonder if mine and Dino's combined made him shoot himself in the foot...maybe his neurons misfired???
Then
Probably in the ER getting treated for over inflated head syndrome

You are an intelligent person and I really don't think you expect us to believe these were not intended to be hurtful. The point is people here are intelligent and should be able to disagree without getting personal and revert to name calling. When someone does, it can be pointed out with grace and the user made to see that behavior like that isn't tolerated. To respond by being equally mean (or worse) and having several people join you is bullying, as Roxanne said. It should be beneath people who use words for a living (or at least a serious hobby).
 
S-Des said:
I never said you were hateful or vile. As you said, I don't know you, but you seem like a decent person, or I wouldn't have bothered. Life is too short to waste on people that aren't worth it. However, your claim of innocence about your posts doesn't ring true when you said this...

Then
You are an intelligent person and I really don't think you expect us to believe these were not intended to be hurtful. The point is people here are intelligent and should be able to disagree without getting personal and revert to name calling. When someone does, it can be pointed out with grace and the user made to see that behavior like that isn't tolerated. To respond by being equally mean (or worse) and having several people join you is bullying, as Roxanne said. It should be beneath people who use words for a living (or at least a hobby).

Hypocrite.
 
cloudy said:
So I'm mean, who cares? I thought everyone knew that already. :rolleyes:

If he wants to dish his petty shit out, he ought to be prepared to take it. First rule of the playground, dear.

I like the rule and if you haven't noticed yet, I took your best shot and you couldn't do anything without your Lieutenants. All you did was say that I was on your ignore list and I wasn't. You wanted to start this stupid crap in another thread.

Dar~ said:
If he has been around long enough to have an AV, he's not a newbie and if he can belittle our intelligence, than I can damn well defend myself and point out his own failings.

I never did start anything and you wanted to be "Cloudy's Collective" so you got what was never meant for "you". And another thing, I didn’t fail at anything. “The Collective” failed at understanding what I wrote. I did make my point on how I was being sarcastic when I called Pure, vain. Inspite of that, Cloudy continued to argue and as if that wasn’t enough, she ran her mouth on how she got the better of me.

I pointed out (by looking at what's written below her AV) that she was trying to be bitchy and it wasn’t working. So she runs her mouth some more.

Then she wrote this...
cloudy said:
No Soul: you are on my ignore list because you're a fucking idiot, and I have better things to do than talk to idiots. Fortunately, we usually run off the dumbasses, like yourself, because they can't keep up, so I'm just saving time and telling you "buh-bye" now.

Moron.

:rolleyes:

Niin zaagi`idiwin goopadizi awiya. Wiinawaa sa egaaj ji baapinodaage.

Maybe it has gone beyond the point where it doesn't matter who's right or wrong so take your best shot.

P.S. When I was talking about neurons, I wasn't referring to Biology. I was referring to the facts on how some of those biological aspects are used to create AI, which is what I'm working on. I did point out those facts 'coz if a machine coded by me can be intelligent, maybe I can show that ignorance is not bliss to you.
 
N0madS0uL said:
I like the rule and if you haven't noticed yet, I took your best shot and you couldn't do anything without your Lieutenants. All you did was say that I was on your ignore list and I wasn't. You wanted to start this stupid crap in another thread.
Her best shot? I don't think you've seen her best shot yet. :cathappy:

Her Lieutenants? So she's a captain? An officer? I love women in authority. :devil:

How do you know you're not on her ignore list? You have some kind of a spy network going on there?

What thread? Did she start any thread about you?

I never did start anything and you wanted to be "Cloudy's Collective" so you got what was never meant for "you". And another thing, I didn’t fail at anything. “The Collective” failed at understanding what I wrote. I did make my point on how I was being sarcastic when I called Pure, vain. Inspite of that, Cloudy continued to argue and as if that wasn’t enough, she ran her mouth on how she got the better of me.
Thanks for giving us, as in Cloudy's friends, a name. :cathappy:

But I want to ask you a question. Is there anything wrong with defending your friends when they're run down by some strangers who obviously have such different taste in "art" than you do? I don't think so. We have the right to be loyal to our friends. You have the right to be loyal to your taste, of course, but don't expect "us" to sit still and say nothing. This thread has a title of "Open Debate," as far as I'm concerned, it could have been a civilized debate if you hadn't started "categorizing bitches."

P.S. When I was talking about neurons, I wasn't referring to Biology. I was referring to the facts on how some of those biological aspects are used to create AI, which is what I'm working on. I did point out those facts 'coz if a machine coded by me can be intelligent, maybe I can show that ignorance is not bliss to you.
Yea, sure. We're so ignorant. Excuse my uneducated ignorance, because my major is biotech, therefore whenever someone talks about biological matters, I immediately think of biological arguments...Wow, this is such a flaw of mine.
 
FatDino said:
Her best shot? I don't think you've seen her best shot yet. :cathappy:

Her Lieutenants? So she's a captain? An officer? I love women in authority. :devil:

How do you know you're not on her ignore list? You have some kind of a spy network going on there?

What thread? Did she start any thread about you?


Thanks for giving us, as in Cloudy's friends, a name. :cathappy:

But I want to ask you a question. Is there anything wrong with defending your friends when they're run down by some strangers who obviously have such different taste in "art" than you do? I don't think so. We have the right to be loyal to our friends. You have the right to be loyal to your taste, of course, but don't expect "us" to sit still and say nothing. This thread has a title of "Open Debate," as far as I'm concerned, it could have been a civilized debate if you hadn't started "categorizing bitches."


Yea, sure. We're so ignorant. Excuse my uneducated ignorance, because my major is biotech, therefore whenever someone talks about biological matters, I immediately think of biological arguments...Wow, this is such a flaw of mine.

I'm still waiting for her best shot then, I guess.

I guess you didn't read some of her comments "after" I was on her ignore list.

The thread I'm referring to happens to be started by someone else and she ran her mouth there too.

And I didn't give you guys a name. It was one of your buddies, who named the group, "The Collective". How can you forget what you read?

No there's nothing wrong in defending your friends. What really bothers me is that you think I'm disrespecting you when I'm clearly not. I'm not saying that you should ignore what I'm saying to your friend or feel respected when I'm disrespecting your best buddy but you should atleast try to comprehend that you started it.

It'd have been a civilized debate? Yeah right. The only reason I categorised her was 'coz she was acting like one. I've never provoked anyone, anywhere apart from here and that's her doing, not mine.

Biotech eh? Then why did you assume that I was talking about grade school biology?
 
N0madS0uL said:
I'm still waiting for her best shot then, I guess.

I guess you didn't read some of her comments "after" I was on her ignore list.

The thread I'm referring to happens to be started by someone else and she ran her mouth there too.

And I didn't give you guys a name. It was one of your buddies, who named the group, "The Collective". How can you forget what you read?

No there's nothing wrong in defending your friends. What really bothers me is that you think I'm disrespecting you when I'm clearly not. I'm not saying that you should ignore what I'm saying to your friend or feel respected when I'm disrespecting your best buddy but you should atleast try to comprehend that you started it.

It'd have been a civilized debate? Yeah right. The only reason I categorised her was 'coz she was acting like one. I've never provoked anyone, anywhere apart from here and that's her doing, not mine.

Biotech eh? Then why did you assume that I was talking about grade school biology?
Puh-lease. She did not respond to you, she posted an explanation as to why you were put on ignore. :rolleyes:

I believe "one of her buddies," or Dar, in this case, "gave us a name" because you inspired her to.

You know her title is "proto-civilized bitch," right? Everyone around here knows that, and believe me, she's not a bitch wannabe. I am.

And grade school biology? They don't offer bio in grade school...let alone talking about neurons. Oh I'm sorry...or do you think neurons are only taught in high schools, not uni's?
 
Oh for goodness sake, let it rest.

All of you.

This thread has caused so much bad feeling, the like of which I haven't seen in my time in the AH, not to mention a second thread.

Please.

Let it die.

I don't expect any of you to 'shake and make up', it's gone too far.

Take the next step.

Just stop.

*Hopeful Auntie*
 
matriarch said:
Oh for goodness sake, let it rest.

All of you.

This thread has caused so much bad feeling, the like of which I haven't seen in my time in the AH, not to mention a second thread.

Please.

Let it die.

I don't expect any of you to 'shake and make up', it's gone too far.

Take the next step.

Just stop.

*Hopeful Auntie*
Well stated
 
matriarch said:
Oh for goodness sake, let it rest.

All of you.

This thread has caused so much bad feeling, the like of which I haven't seen in my time in the AH, not to mention a second thread.

Please.

Let it die.

I don't expect any of you to 'shake and make up', it's gone too far.

Take the next step.

Just stop.

*Hopeful Auntie*
Yes ma'am. I won't reply in this thread anymore. *nods*
 
People politics is what it's all about.
Maybe, just maybe
One day we will learn
To understand one another
But that I do doubt

:rose:
 
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