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[S-Des]

Posted from Yahoo news without comment (but with much snickering).......


The Not-So-Lost Tribe
by Mike Krumboltz

June 23, 2008 06:09:40 PM

Even in an age when cynical sleuths can hyper-analyze stories for truth and accuracy, the occasional hoax still slips through the cracks. Such was the case with a so-called "lost Amazon tribe."

A few months ago, mainstream news outlets (including, ahem, Yahoo!) reported that a photographer had found a lost tribe of warriors near the Brazilian-Peruvian border. Photos of the tribe backed up his claim.

As it turns out, the story is only half true. The men in the photo are members of a tribe, but it certainly ain't "lost." In fact, as the photographer, José Carlos Meirelles, recently explained, authorities have known about this particular tribe since 1910. The photographer and the agency that released the pictures wanted to make it seem like they were members of a lost tribe in order to call attention to the dangers the logging industry may have on the group.

The photographer recently came clean, and news outlets, perhaps embarrassed at having been taken for a ride, have been slow to pick up the story. Now, the word is starting to spread and articles in the Buzz are picking up steam. Expect a lot more brutal truth in the coming days.

 

[OzoneRed]

When this story first broke, the networks that I watched reported that authorities had been aware of this and several other villages for years. They used the word "uncontacted", not "lost", and they never said that the village was newly discovered, only that it was isolated and un-publicized. The Brazilian government is afraid that if anthropologists or tourists contact the village, the villagers will contract diseases that they've never before been exposed to.

 

[3113]

Expect a lot more brutal truth in the coming days.
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Um...brutal? Article's a bit hyperbolic there.

Brutal is if we find out that they hired a bunch of actors to play the tribe or find out that the tribe has been trading with the outside world since 1910 and were putting on a paid show for the photographer.

But finding out that some have known about the tribe since 1910...not so brutal. If it's still a tribe that has never been in contact with the outside world then, at least to me, the message is pretty much the same. This being that it's preserved in time and contact would destroy it--and that most of the globe didn't know it existed till recently.

Ergo, the lie doesn't destroy the most important element of the truth about the tribe. Ergo not "brutal." But I will happily wait to see if more than just the time table that was a lie. Maybe the word "brutal" will be justified then.

 

[S-Des]

Um...brutal? Article's a bit hyperbolic there.

Quite possibly. This is the early report, so it may turn out to not be as big a deal as they make it out to be.

 

[impressive]

Ah, the crusaders lower their ethics to aid their cause. It's only news when it's a liberal cause. Other times, it's called "capitalism."

 

[Liar]

When this story first broke, the networks that I watched reported that authorities had been aware of this and several other villages for years. They used the word "uncontacted", not "lost", and they never said that the village was newly discovered, only that it was isolated and un-publicized. The Brazilian government is afraid that if anthropologists or tourists contact the village, the villagers will contract diseases that they've never before been exposed to.

Yah, the news I read about this some month ago seemed to say that it wasn't we who didn't know about em, as much as they who didn't know about us.

Which is, IMO, the more interresting perspective.

 

[keeblercrumb]

Soviet Era Condom

Ah, the crusaders lower their ethics to aid their cause. It's only news when it's a liberal cause. Other times, it's called "capitalism."

Ah yes... All those "liberal" causes on Fox news...

I would hope "conservatives" would be embarassed to hear that the protection of indigenous peoples is a "liberal" cause.

I am trying to put this in subterfuge on a scale with the Weapons of Mass Destruction mis-information that the "liberal biased" media marched us off to war with after swallowing it whole.


Nope. Not even close.


-KC

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

KEEBLER

You need to learn what conservative means. Republicans and Bush are no more conservative than a Panda is a bear.

 

[keeblercrumb]

KEEBLER

You need to learn what conservative means. Republicans and Bush are no more conservative than a Panda is a bear.

You know when it was asserted above that this was "liberal" cause... THAT is what prompted my incredulity.... It follows, one can only surmise, that "conservatives", unlike this liberal "cause" were all in favor of logging these folks out of existence....

That struck me as ridiculous... but perhaps not. Is that what "conservatives" real or otherwise believe?????

Oh yeah... along with that old windmill "news bias" you all keep tilting at... like Fox News, I suppose.

-KC

 

[impressive]

You know when it was asserted above that this was "liberal" cause... THAT is what prompted my incredulity.... It follows, one can only surmise, that "conservatives", unlike this liberal "cause" were all in favor of logging these folks out of existence....

That struck me as ridiculous... but perhaps not. Is that what "conservatives" real or otherwise believe?????

Oh yeah... along with that old windmill "news bias" you all keep tilting at... like Fox News, I suppose.

-KC

Greed (a/k/a "progress" to some) trumps heritage. History backs me up on this one. Conservation of resources (heritage, environment, energy) typically has a liberal slant. That's no secret, either.

Not ridiculous at all, IMO.

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

Unlike the Phillipino "Lost Tribe" a few years ago who were paid actors, at least this was a real tribe. I can respect the photographer's intentions, but not the way he went out fooling the world to get his point across.

 

[DesertPirate]

It's amazing how this group can turn anything into political bullshit!

 

[voluptuary_manque]

Unlike the Phillipino "Lost Tribe" a few years ago who were paid actors, at least this was a real tribe. I can respect the photographer's intentions, but not the way he went out fooling the world to get his point across.

The real sore point in this is not that the people were or were not being left alone to keep them unexposed to the diseases, etc., of the modern world but that they were being used to "protect the forest". Even though I am fully aware that their culture and liveliehood depends on the forest, it still comes across that the tribe was secondary to the photographer's concern for the trees.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

The real sore point in this is not that the people were or were not being left alone to keep them unexposed to the diseases, etc., of the modern world but that they were being used to "protect the forest". Even though I am fully aware that their culture and liveliehood depends on the forest, it still comes across that the tribe was secondary to the photographer's concern for the trees.

Unfortunately "WE" need those trees too. Without them the CO2 in the atmosphere would not be converted into O2 for us to breath. Tropical rain forests are the lungs of the planet and are needed to keep the planet healthy.

Or we could just cut them all down and enjoy the monetary wealth for the short time we would be around while the planet dies as we spend our wealth accumulating more "stuff" to squirrel away in our garages and basements.

 

[S-Des]

That struck me as ridiculous... but perhaps not. Is that what "conservatives" real or otherwise believe?????

Oh yeah... along with that old windmill "news bias" you all keep tilting at... like Fox News, I suppose.

-KC

I'm officially calling for Imp to expand her drinking game list....any time Bush is randomly blamed for something that he doesn't really have control over or any time Fox news is randomly slammed for no apparent reason. You know, it's no wonder they're the most watched news channel (by a lot) with all the people who seem to watch even though they hate it.

 

[TheeGoatPig]

Unfortunately "WE" need those trees too. Without them the CO2 in the atmosphere would not be converted into O2 for us to breath. Tropical rain forests are the lungs of the planet and are needed to keep the planet healthy.

Or we could just cut them all down and enjoy the monetary wealth for the short time we would be around while the planet dies as we spend our wealth accumulating more "stuff" to squirrel away in our garages and basements.

Actually, ocean algae does over 60% of the carbon to oxygen converting for the planet. But trees are still a large percentage in the rest of the converting factors.

 

[Guest]

I'm officially calling for Imp to expand her drinking game list....any time Bush is randomly blamed for something that he doesn't really have control over or any time Fox news is randomly slammed for no apparent reason. You know, it's no wonder they're the most watched news channel (by a lot) with all the people who seem to watch even though they hate it.

Fox News? It's ridiculously slanted. How on earth can intelligent people watch a newscaster who sneers an opinion about a story?

But as to watching it? Not often, but I force myself to.

Know your enemy and know yourself and you can fight a hundred battles without disaster.

~Sun Tzu

Edited to add - Oh - and you can toss Nancy Grace and Glenn Beck and a couple other idiots on Headline News into the mix. What in the hell happened to true journalism?

 

[voluptuary_manque]

Fox News? It's ridiculously slanted. How on earth can intelligent people watch a newscaster who sneers an opinion about a story?

But as to watching it? Not often, but I force myself to.

Know your enemy and know yourself and you can fight a hundred battles without disaster.

~Sun Tzu

Edited to add - Oh - and you can toss Nancy Grace and Glenn Beck and a couple other idiots on Headline News into the mix. What in the hell happened to true journalism?

It died when "journalists" became part of the Washingtonian elite and became more concerned with winning Pulitzers than with keeping the commoners informed. Is it any wonder they have a public rating right down there with used car salesmen?

 

[DesertPirate]

It died when "journalists" became part of the Washingtonian elite and became more concerned with winning Pulitzers than with keeping the commoners informed. Is it any wonder they have a public rating right down there with used car salesmen?

You mean almost as bad as Congress?

 

[Guest]

You mean almost as bad as Congress?

I'm not certain it's that low.

 

[DesertPirate]

I'm not certain it's that low.

I heard Congresscritters were using umbrellas to deflect whale shit.

 

[Guest]

I heard Congrecritters were using umbrellas to deflect whale shit.

Laughing -

 

[DesertPirate]

Laughing -

only because it's true

We should fire the entire thundering herd of dumbass in Washington!