On Vixens, Cuckoldresses & Other Hotwives: the Appeal of the Highly Desirable Wife

[John_Vandermeer]

Because of its format this might be a failed thread. But I wanted to throw a poll out there. Though there are many flavors of it, an obviously incendiary third rail but recurring theme in erotica is "the appeal of the highly desirable wife". Is that an idea that appeals to you too, and if so, what flavor of it? All or none of the flavors are perfectly acceptable answers. Otherwise follow the question flowchart below.

1) Is the idea of a wife being desired by other men hot? Y or N
2) If yes to (1), is the idea of wife accepting advances of other men hot? Y or N
3) If yes to (1), is the idea of wife rejecting the advances of other men hot? Y or N
4) If yes to (2), is the idea of wife humiliating husband hot? Y or N
5) If yes to (3) is the idea of wife humiliating suitors hot? Y or N

I probably subscribe to YES (all of the above).
I obviously framed this in a very gendered way, but you may substitute for the gender neutral "spouse" if you wish.

 

[theWollstonecraftWoman]

I only write about cuckoldry, my husband is my bull, so not qualified to answer this. And no, I didn't leave my first husband for my current husband. I met him years after hubby one was put out to pasture.

 

[Lifestyle66]

Because of its format this might be a failed thread. But I wanted to throw a poll out there. Though there are many flavors of it, an obviously incendiary third rail but recurring theme in erotica is "the appeal of the highly desirable wife". Is that an idea that appeals to you too, and if so, what flavor of it? All or none of the flavors are perfectly acceptable answers. Otherwise follow the question flowchart below.

1) Is the idea of a wife being desired by other men hot? Y or N
2) If yes to (1), is the idea of wife accepting advances of other men hot? Y or N
3) If yes to (1), is the idea of wife rejecting the advances of other men hot? Y or N
4) If yes to (2), is the idea of wife humiliating husband hot? Y or N
5) If yes to (3) is the idea of wife humiliating suitors hot? Y or N

I probably subscribe to YES (all of the above).
I obviously framed this in a very gendered way, but you may substitute for the gender neutral "spouse" if you wish.

I prefer to write of a hot wife who is in control and knows it. I don't like any aspect of humiliation. So, for those who understand my stories, the husband always pushes back against his "bitch" trying to control him. It's the nuanced power struggle between them that I like.

 

[alohadave]

1) Is the idea of a wife being desired by other men hot? Y or N
2) If yes to (1), is the idea of wife accepting advances of other men hot? Y or N
3) If yes to (1), is the idea of wife rejecting the advances of other men hot? Y or N
4) If yes to (2), is the idea of wife humiliating husband hot? Y or N
5) If yes to (3) is the idea of wife humiliating suitors hot? Y or N

In fantasy, everything is Y. So much of it is dependent on the author and how they work the ideas.

Every one of these are conflicts and conflicts drive stories.

 

[SimonDoom]

I agree with 1 through 3. I don't find humiliation of the husband erotic, but if others do, more power to them! No judgment.

The fantasy is most erotic to me when it's something that both husband and wife are completely on board with, and there's no humiliation involved. The husband is open-minded and non-jealous, and he's turned on by having a wife whose libido is not wholly under control. There's a voyeur/exhibitionist element to the husband/wife relationship.

 

[MrPixel]

Speaking from IRL experience:

1 & 2, yes.

3, no, rejection is not "hot", it is a failure on either side or both to read the chemistry in the first place.

4 & 5, no. I recognize that, for some, humiliation is arousing, but I do not subscribe to that kink, and neither do I wish it upon my wife's boyfriends. If everybody doesn't walk away after the intimacy feeling good about themselves and their special friends, then somebody's doing it wrong.

The closest thing to humiliation I have written is rejection of a FMC's former FWB who crossed the line into stalking. I would say being escorted out of a very public venue by security guards would certainly qualify as "humiliating", but given that it was in a personal protection context and there wasn't a single sexy thing about it isn't the kind of humiliation we're talking about here. Just sad, for everybody involved.

 

[Djmac1031]

1) Is the idea of a wife being desired by other men hot? Y or N

Yes. I think most guys would agree, they want other men to be jealous of him for having a hot wife or GF.


2) If yes to (1), is the idea of wife accepting advances of other men
hot? Y or N

To me? Yes.

3) If yes to (1), is the idea of wife rejecting the advances of other men hot? Y or N

Also Yes. Both scenarios work for me.

4) If yes to (2), is the idea of wife humiliating husband hot? Y or N

No. Humiliation does nothing for me really. Not in stories, certainly not in real life.


5) If yes to (3) is the idea of wife humiliating suitors hot? Y or N

Again, no. See above.

 

[Seadog777]

Are you asking for personal opinion or writing???

 

[djrip]

5 could be good if I already didn't like the guy.

 

[Djmac1031]

5 could be good if I already didn't like the guy.

Oh for sure. I'd certainly get a kick out of my GF rejecting some smarmy, cocksure asshole.

Not sexually though. More "ha ha. Fuck you, asshole."

 

[John_Vandermeer]

Are you asking for personal opinion or writing???

Either, both

 

[Djmac1031]

Either, both

Okay, real life story time then:

My girlfriend and I worked for the same DJ company many years ago. She was in sales, I was a DJ of course.

We knew each other for awhile before we started dating.

Shortly after we started, there was a DJ convention in Atlantic City many of us would attend every summer... lots of partying etc.

Anyway, none of our friends / coworkers knew we were dating at the time. We kinda kept it on the down low.

We arrived separately (although we already had our own room booked) and were dancing and partying all night with a large group of friends.

One of my fellow DJs in particular spent all night hitting on my GF.

I didn't care; wasn't worried about anything happening. They even danced together a few times.

At the end of the night, my GF came up to me while I was with all my friends and was like "you ready to go?"

We left together. I still remember the look on my buddies faces, especially the guy that was hitting on her all night. It was priceless.

 

[Andrew1968]

1, 2 and 4 are my preference, though 1 and 2 are damned good as well. I haven’t written stories around 3 and 5 yet.

In my opinion, vixens, cuckoldresses and hotwives make the world go round, along with oversexed moms who have a severe case of the so called “Jocasta Complex” and are playing games with their 18-year-old plus sons. I like the seduction and the chess playing involved.

I’ve always been far more turned on by an attached woman who doesn’t want to keep her sexuality on a leash because someone says she has to, just as I’m turned on by older women and younger men games, and Oedipal/Jocasta type themes. Highly desirable wives and mothers = awesome. I think part of it is being turned on by the mindset and intelligence involved and needed to get around a taboo or compel someone to accept that a taboo is going to be broken/has been broken.

 

[Rob_Royale]

1. Yes. I love that my wife is admired.
2. No. She's mine. I'm hers.
3. Yes. Politely.
4. Hell no. She wouldn't want a man that wanted to be humiliated. How can you respect someone like that?
5. No. No need for that.

 

[Seadog777]

Either, both

Because of its format this might be a failed thread. But I wanted to throw a poll out there. Though there are many flavors of it, an obviously incendiary third rail but recurring theme in erotica is "the appeal of the highly desirable wife". Is that an idea that appeals to you too, and if so, what flavor of it? All or none of the flavors are perfectly acceptable answers. Otherwise follow the question flowchart below.

1) Is the idea of a wife being desired by other men hot? Y or N
2) If yes to (1), is the idea of wife accepting advances of other men hot? Y or N
3) If yes to (1), is the idea of wife rejecting the advances of other men hot? Y or N
4) If yes to (2), is the idea of wife humiliating husband hot? Y or N
5) If yes to (3) is the idea of wife humiliating suitors hot? Y or N

I probably subscribe to YES (all of the above).
I obviously framed this in a very gendered way, but you may substitute for the gender neutral "spouse" if you wish.

I PERSONALLY..... think that people who participate in "cuckoldry", of any kind, are retarded and should be dropped from a helicopter in front of their fucking families.

I DO know a couple that actually participate in that.
Yes, they know exactly how I feel about it.
They do not bring it up and I do not bring it up.
We are able to have conversations, sit together at football games, have lunch together, etc, etc.
We are fucking adults, and understand that just because we see things differently, doesn't mean that we can't be friends.

I think that every spouse, wants others to think that their spouse is "desirable". It makes both parties feel good.

I would assume that it's fun to write about because it pisses off, the people that lose their minds over that kinda shit.

 

[John_Vandermeer]

I PERSONALLY..... think that people who participate in "cuckoldry", of any kind, are retarded and should be dropped from a helicopter in front of their fucking families.

I DO know a couple that actually participate in that.
Yes, they know exactly how I feel about it.
They do not bring it up and I do not bring it up.
We are able to have conversations, sit together at football games, have lunch together, etc, etc.
We are fucking adults, and understand that just because we see things differently, doesn't mean that we can't be friends.

I think that every spouse, wants others to think that their spouse is "desirable". It makes both parties feel good.

I would assume that it's fun to write about because it pisses off, the people that lose their minds over that kinda shit.

You certainly don’t mince your words.

Cuckoldry is just one way to make people loose their shit, if that is the goal. Depending on the audience, so many good ways available in the Lit verse…

 

[Seadog777]

You certainly don’t mince your words.

Cuckoldry is just one way to make people to loose their shit, if that is the goal. Depending on the audience, so many good ways available in the Lit verse…

I never mince my words.
I'm a straight shooter, and don't give a flying figs fuck.
Yes, I do talk this way IRL as well.

It is fun to mess with the LW trolls.
I laugh my ass off, at the comments that I get or others get.

 

[offkilter123]

JFC…

 

[Djmac1031]

JFC…

Mmmm, chicken...

Oh, wait...

 

[lovecraft68]

Because of its format this might be a failed thread. But I wanted to throw a poll out there. Though there are many flavors of it, an obviously incendiary third rail but recurring theme in erotica is "the appeal of the highly desirable wife". Is that an idea that appeals to you too, and if so, what flavor of it? All or none of the flavors are perfectly acceptable answers. Otherwise follow the question flowchart below.

1) Is the idea of a wife being desired by other men hot? Y or N
2) If yes to (1), is the idea of wife accepting advances of other men hot? Y or N
3) If yes to (1), is the idea of wife rejecting the advances of other men hot? Y or N
4) If yes to (2), is the idea of wife humiliating husband hot? Y or N
5) If yes to (3) is the idea of wife humiliating suitors hot? Y or N

I probably subscribe to YES (all of the above).
I obviously framed this in a very gendered way, but you may substitute for the gender neutral "spouse" if you wish.

If we're talking writing, I go with Yes on 1/2/4

If we're talking real life 1 is a yes, but none of the others. Our rule is anything that can be done between two people is fair game, but no outsiders.

Although back about 20 years ago we agreed to let a random guy we met on a cruise watch, aside from that. we're monogamous, and for some reason in certain circles we get looked at like we're the oddballs.

 

[lc69hunter]

Agree with most. 1 thru 3. Definitely yes
4 and 5. No There is no need or desire for humiliation of any sort in any relationship. Maybe gentle teasing, though. That goes with the territory with a hot wife who plays or a cuckoldress

 

[kucked2x]

1-4 yes, 5 no

 

[Thorlol]

Because of its format this might be a failed thread. But I wanted to throw a poll out there. Though there are many flavors of it, an obviously incendiary third rail but recurring theme in erotica is "the appeal of the highly desirable wife". Is that an idea that appeals to you too, and if so, what flavor of it? All or none of the flavors are perfectly acceptable answers. Otherwise follow the question flowchart below.

1) Is the idea of a wife being desired by other men hot? Y or N
2) If yes to (1), is the idea of wife accepting advances of other men hot? Y or N
3) If yes to (1), is the idea of wife rejecting the advances of other men hot? Y or N
4) If yes to (2), is the idea of wife humiliating husband hot? Y or N
5) If yes to (3) is the idea of wife humiliating suitors hot? Y or N

I probably subscribe to YES (all of the above).
I obviously framed this in a very gendered way, but you may substitute for the gender neutral "spouse" if you wish.

Hope girlfriends are also ok? I mean, I am longer with her than most of my friends with their wives :S

1: Yes and no? I like that my gf is hot but never spend my time thinking about other people finding her hot. Kinda neutral, even if someone finds her hot I would just agree.
2: No. But its always funny if someone actually hits on her. Well, almost always. There were some rare creepy cases.
2: No. Sometimes I feel sorry for the guys. Advise them to maybe look for single girls and if they are somewhat friendly even point some single gals out wishing them good luck.
4: No. Nothing about humiliation is hot. Reminds me of bullys who are insecure as fuck.
5: No. Same as above.

I PERSONALLY..... think that people who participate in "cuckoldry", of any kind, are retarded and should be dropped from a helicopter in front of their fucking families.

I DO know a couple that actually participate in that.
Yes, they know exactly how I feel about it.
They do not bring it up and I do not bring it up.
We are able to have conversations, sit together at football games, have lunch together, etc, etc.
We are fucking adults, and understand that just because we see things differently, doesn't mean that we can't be friends.

I think that every spouse, wants others to think that their spouse is "desirable". It makes both parties feel good.

I would assume that it's fun to write about because it pisses off, the people that lose their minds over that kinda shit.

Please tell me your secret. I also have a couple as friends and lost alot of respect for both of them somehow. Intellectually I know that what people do in their free time is their buisness but I just cant see them in the same light. The worst part? They have no sex life to speak of other when she goes out and then comes back after some time. Its like he cant fuck his wife. Only after she was with someone else. And its not like shes ugly in any way. I dont know, maybe he should actually look for someone else if he isnt attracted to her anymore and she should do the same instead of fucking someone else to keep their marriage together. But what do I know?

 

[Seadog777]

Please tell me your secret. I also have a couple as friends and lost alot of respect for both of them somehow. Intellectually I know that what people do in their free time is their buisness but I just cant see them in the same light. The worst part? They have no sex life to speak of other when she goes out and then comes back after some time. Its like he cant fuck his wife. Only after she was with someone else. And its not like shes ugly in any way. I dont know, maybe he should actually look for someone else if he isnt attracted to her anymore and she should do the same instead of fucking someone else to keep their marriage together. But what do I know?

There isn't really a secret.
There is more to a person than their sexual choices.
They are sports fans, active in the community, both have jobs, etc, etc.
They don't go around broadcasting the fucking shit either.

It's no different than when a friend has 1 thing wrong with them, but 10 other good qualities.

I think it simply comes down to being a god damn adult.
Understanding and accepting differences doesn't mean you can't be friends.

That's just me though. Not passing judgment.

 

[SimpleEnigma]

At the risk of being flown to a dizzying height, being called a retard, and dropped to my death in front of my family, I can tell you that of the dozens of cuckold/hotwife couples my wife and I have run with over the past 30 years (in our community and at hedo events), most would likely say yes to all the OPs poll questions. Not all get into the humiliation factor like I do, but by this time in our lives we should all know there are as many flavors of sexual preference as there are people on this planet. Not everyone is wired the same, whether physically, emotionally, or sexually. But, of course, folks that frequent an erotica site like this - and certainly those that publish here - recognize this truism and have developed a higher degree of tolerance for alternative lifestyles than others.

As we all know too, many authors on this forum and other sites, including those who get paid for their crafts, no nothing of the lifestyle or subject matter of which they write. That is painfully obvious to those of us that live it, however, it is their right to interpret what they think is real to further their idea of a fantasy.

As always, stay tolerant friends.