OMG - Story I thought wouldn't pass is in tomorrow's batch in *LW*

[MrPixel]

Yikes! I wrote a quickie (3000 words) the other day that I thought probably wouldn't pass, but my editor liked it... a lot, actually. She plastered a Post-It with a big "GREAT story!" on the first page. So I thought I'd try anyway.

I posted it to Non-Erotic since it has no direct narration of sex, and I was surprised that it's now in the queue to be published in tomorrow's batch - in LW. Since it's about a habitual philanderer getting more or less the ultimate comeuppance at the hands of his veterinarian wife, the trolls in LW are going to go ballistic. I'll guess I need to dust-off the Nomex underwear today.

I'll post the link once it's up.

 

[Rustyoznail]

Congrats!

Better dig out that flak jacket as well.

 

[gordo12]

I do rent bomb shelters as a sideline. May I suggest our deepest offering @ 200 feet below ground level!

 

[Wark2002]

Yikes! I wrote a quickie (3000 words) the other day that I thought probably wouldn't pass, but my editor liked it... a lot, actually. She plastered a Post-It with a big "GREAT story!" on the first page. So I thought I'd try anyway.

I posted it to Non-Erotic since it has no direct narration of sex, and I was surprised that it's now in the queue to be published in tomorrow's batch - in LW. Since it's about a habitual philanderer getting more or less the ultimate comeuppance at the hands of his veterinarian wife, the trolls in LW are going to go ballistic. I'll guess I need to dust-off the Nomex underwear today.

I'll post the link once it's up.

I thought “philanderers getting their comeuppance” was what the LW audience loved more than anything else.
I remember reading a comment after a story there in which it was stated that the main character was going to Hell. I’m not questioning whether there is Heaven or Hell, but my guess is Hell is full enough that they would not accept fictional characters.

 

[MrPixel]

Hmm. Could be. I don't target LW for my writings since that isn't normally my shtick, anyway, but the impression I've garnered from a distance is that most of it is BTB or RAAC. In other words, the ladies being the object of scorn for straying.

Poor guy in my story is consigned to his own slice of hell, that's for sure.

 

[lovecraft68]

So the cheating guy gets it from his wife....and there's no actual sex.
The trolls that the first part will inflame are the type I love to see frothing. Between the woman not being shown as the cheating whore LW maggots all tell us they are, and the short length I am going to make sure to give this a read.

 

[MrPixel]

https://literotica.com/s/neutered

 

[lovecraft68]

Read it, left a comment. If you're interested in any feedback, PM me and let me know. I never send anyone anything they haven't requested.

 

[gordo12]

LOL, I always say write something different, and THAT was different. Congrats!

You may have crossed a line. Burn the Bitch and they'll hoist you and throw a parade. Make it Burn the Bastard, and the enthusiasm drops like a rock. They may burn the author. I'll look forward to reading the comments. (I left you one too.)

 

[Rustyoznail]

Yeah, a very good concept. Well done. Left a score, but not a comment. Too late in the night to write something coherent.

 

[Lifestyle66]

I rated it but didn't leave a comment.

The present tense detracted a little. And the ending with him still living with her would be a little tough to take. She'd constantly need to have the food tested for his revenge.

But it's fiction and a good story, so 5.

 

[Duleigh]

Be careful @MrPixel, there's a self-appointed guardian of fidelity out there with a bomb bay full of one bombs with proximity fuses. Anything more thrilling than a M/F fist bump is labeled as cuckoldry and he hits the Emergency Armed Release switch. Also congratulations on finding an editor, many of us have found editors to be as rare as cat eggs.

 

[gordo12]

Hmm, just went in to check the comments and I see the story has disappeared?

 

[lovecraft68]

Gordo is right, its got the error message meaning it was reported, and let me give the reason.
This was reported for violence or torture because a MAN was neutered.

Meanwhile that disgusting cesspool of woman hating filth is filled witg burn the bitch stories with everything from rape to being sold into sex trafficking and all manner of torture to the woman, and at times her lover...but that's okay.

The whiny pieces of trash in that category make me fucking sick, as does this site for letting it be anything goes when its a woman on the receiving end, but god forbid something happens to a man. That's what little cunts the alleged men there are.

This site loves and supports and condones the abuse of women and caters to incels and their hate speech.

I wouldn't be surprised if this comment doesn't get deleted.

Makes me sick.

 

[MrPixel]

Gordo is right, its got the error message meaning it was reported, and let me give the reason.
This was reported for violence or torture because a MAN was neutered.

Meanwhile that disgusting cesspool of woman hating filth is filled witg burn the bitch stories with everything from rape to being sold into sex trafficking and all manner of torture to the woman, and at times her lover...but that's okay.

Yeah. I explained that to my editor and her reaction was "WHAT?!" The hypocrisy sucks.

I just noticed it was "sent back". Not a surprise, however, I knew I was on thin ice from the get-go. Do I have to ask Laurel explicitly to remove it, or will it disappear on its own? I'm not going to sanitize it.

The comments range from "great" (thanks, guys) to "sucks". Totally expected.

 

[tenyari]

Shouldn't any story with that kind of violence, regardless of the target or the perpetrator or the motive; get flagged as inappropriate?

I thought extreme forms of violent mutilation / maiming / etc were not allowed here?

https://www.literotica.com/faq/publishing/publishing-guidelines

• sexualized death, “vore”, or “snuff” fiction (characters are allowed to kill or die in stories, but the death shouldn’t be meant as sexually titillating).
• non-consent fantasies in which the “victim” receives no thrill or enjoyment from the acts, or is seriously and/or permanently physically harmed/abused/maimed/killed.
• sexualized maiming, amputation, and female or male circumcision (we happily accept stories of amputees and their devotees, but do not post stories sexualizing the act of amputation or permanent physical harm).

I didn't read this story, didn't hear about it until after the fact, but as described above it seems the problem isn't that this story was flagged, but that others have not also been flagged?

 

[MrPixel]

Maybe so. That the guidelines are so inconsistently enforced is troubling. I honestly don't read a lot of stories here because the topics and categories in general are not what I enjoy, either as erotica or literature, but in that sparse reading there have been at least two, maybe three that delved into not-quite-implicit castration.

The crux of this rejection, I strongly believe, is the festering toxicity of the LW category. I published one there last year as a deliberate test balloon and received a pretty good measure that I would never publish in that category again. My story, which I felt was an interesting non-erotic morality tale, was directed there over my wishes, and here we are.

I'm not abandoning LitE, not by any means, especially since I have so much in the hopper right now that is fun and light and happy, and should have few issues with anyone other than it being pretty saccharine at times. But it won't be anything that approaches redirection to LW. I will, however, pull anything I contribute the moment it is put in LW without my explicit assent.

 

[gordo12]

Shouldn't any story with that kind of violence, regardless of the target or the perpetrator or the motive; get flagged as inappropriate?

I thought extreme forms of violent mutilation / maiming / etc were not allowed here?

https://www.literotica.com/faq/publishing/publishing-guidelines



I didn't read this story, didn't hear about it until after the fact, but as described above it seems the problem isn't that this story was flagged, but that others have not also been flagged?

My understanding is any form of torture or killing can't be in conjunction with sexual gratification. Eg: snuff isn't allowed. But I've killed off characters, seen them blown up and worse in LW. So that isn't it. The complaint process is sometimes automatic without anybody reviewing it. There's an author here that has his stories jerked every time he publishes without anyone checking. He has a stalker! (Don't we all ) I'd resubmit the story and ask why it was taken out in the notes. I saw nothing in that story that would warrant banning and that's after 20+ years of reading in LW.

 

[tenyari]

Those 3 rules I linked would be the angle upon which to either accept what happened or appeal the decision IF the story doesn't actually violate those rules. Since I never saw the story I don't have the ability to have an opinion either way. But my guess is those are the rules that whoever approved flagging the story based their choice on.

That noted... this brings up another recent topic on the forums - vindictive reporting.

If there ARE a lot of stories in LW violating those rules but against a different target and so 'getting away with it' - should they be gone after and reported? Would doing so be good for 'cleaning things up' or bad as vindictive? I am AGAINST being vindictive so not advocating doing so.


There's also posting the story to other erotica venues...

 

[gordo12]

Hmm, could violate this rule that I've never seen before...or don't remember. but the story didn't sexualize it. At least not from my viewpoint. I still think it's worth an appeal.

• sexualized maiming, amputation, and female or male circumcision (we happily accept stories of amputees and their devotees, but do not post stories sexualizing the act of amputation or permanent physical harm).

 

[Lifestyle66]

Maybe so. That the guidelines are so inconsistently enforced is troubling. I honestly don't read a lot of stories here because the topics and categories in general are not what I enjoy, either as erotica or literature, but in that sparse reading there have been at least two, maybe three that delved into not-quite-implicit castration.

The crux of this rejection, I strongly believe, is the festering toxicity of the LW category. I published one there last year as a deliberate test balloon and received a pretty good measure that I would never publish in that category again. My story, which I felt was an interesting non-erotic morality tale, was directed there over my wishes, and here we are.

I'm not abandoning LitE, not by any means, especially since I have so much in the hopper right now that is fun and light and happy, and should have few issues with anyone other than it being pretty saccharin at times. But it won't be anything that approaches redirection to LW. I will, however, pull anything I contribute the moment it is put in LW without my explicit assent.

Try resubmitting the story and point out there was no sexual satisfaction in his treatment. It was in revenge for the rape.

 

[Voboy]

If there ARE a lot of stories in LW violating those rules but against a different target and so 'getting away with it' - should they be gone after and reported? Would doing so be good for 'cleaning things up' or bad as vindictive?

Hell no.

My name is Voboy. It's not Karen. I'm nobody's hall monitor, and neither is any other reader or writer.

Either the screening the site does is effective, or it isn't. If it is, great. If not, it's not my job to hunt down the stories out of compliance. Unless I'm volunteering to read every word of every new story, "going after and reporting" is neither fair nor consistent.

I speak as someone who's had his stories vindictively reported. None of them deserved it. It was not hard to get them reposted; Laurel merely errs on the side of caution when readers report stories.

 

[MrPixel]

FWIW, I resubmitted, highlighting that the complainant was possibly overly-sensitive, and that there was no overt sexual content especially relative to "the act". We'll see how it goes.

 

[MrPixel]

After sleeping on it, I'm not interested in dying on this hill. I removed the text in the editor and requested the powers-that-be withdraw the entry. My comments:

I surmise the original story was pulled because it offended some pantywaist's sensibilities and was flagged. We have a lot of 'em in the LW audience. There was no sexualization of anything, or least it wasn't intended. It was intended as a modern morality tale.

Sadly, LW is a toxic wasteland on Literotica. I should have withdrawn this story on noting that it was being redirected to that category.

Withdrawn. Sorry for the trouble.

 

[Rustyoznail]

Well, that sucks. For what it's worth, I liked it.