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EllieTalbot

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There's an offsite discussion I'm having with some people and I'd like a little independent confirmation for something. Apparently, my not being a guy disqualifies me from having an accurate view.

Say you live with your girlfriend, and you're absolutely bonkers for each other, the picture of sublime happiness. You're yin to her yang. She's butter to your bread. You get it. You're so comfortable with each other, you even wear each other's clothes. She loves to put on your sweats or baseball cap. Occasionally you wear something of hers, even, but hidden.

And then, one day, you're blindsided by the unthinkable. You find out she cheated on you. Not only that, but you find out the guy she cheated with did the dry-hump nasty with her (among other things) while she was wearing your clothes. That's right - his questing member rubbed all over your cotton to get to her. And then she went home to you, discarded your clothing, and then smiled and pretended nothing was wrong when you put it on again.

Come on. Tell me that wouldn't make the whole thing that much more offensive.

Inquiring in Indianapolis,
Ellie
 
Dirt washes out. Betrayal doesn't.

Inconclusive answer.

Betrayal is an irremovable stain, granted. Would it be worse, though, knowing that she came home, discarded your clothes that the guy had just been depositing himself on, and watched you put them on again?

Insistent in Idaho,
Ellie
 
I'm with JD here. The exacerbating nature of the betrayal increases by about five to 10 percent, but no more. I have far greater feelings of devastation to deal with.
 
I'm with JD here. The exacerbating nature of the betrayal increases by about five to 10 percent, but no more. I have far greater feelings of devastation to deal with.

How much would it factor in after the initial shock/devastation wore off?
 
There is probably more to the story.

What if: he cheated on her as well.

If they are sooo happy, why did she cheat on him?
 
This probably won't help much, but anyway...

I lived in a shared house and the guy in the room below me was going away for the weekend. He left his key with his girlfriend in case she wanted to get in whilst he was away.

She brought another guy back, had animal sex all night and left the bed unmade and unchanged for boyfriend to find on his return.

That took rubbing his face into her infidelity to a whole new level IMHO.

Sounds like something similar is going on here - I'm not only betraying you, but I'm humiliating you as well.

How can this couple have seemed so perfect???
 
There is probably more to the story.

What if: he cheated on her as well.

If they are sooo happy, why did she cheat on him?

Nope. He hadn't done anything wrong, according to her. He was a doter. She's fobbing it off as "just a mistake."

Now, please answer the question.

Stubborn in St. Paul,
Ellie
 
This probably won't help much, but anyway...

I lived in a shared house and the guy in the room below me was going away for the weekend. He left his key with his girlfriend in case she wanted to get in whilst he was away.

She brought another guy back, had animal sex all night and left the bed unmade and unchanged for boyfriend to find on his return.

That took rubbing his face into her infidelity to a whole new level IMHO.

Sounds like something similar is going on here - I'm not only betraying you, but I'm humiliating you as well.

How can this couple have seemed so perfect???

Did the boyfriend realize animal sex had been had, or was he oblivious and crawled in for a nap?
 
Did the boyfriend realize animal sex had been had, or was he oblivious and crawled in for a nap?

Lets just say the evidence was obvious. He was a tidy guy who had left the bed made up.

She was a bitch.
 
Nope. He hadn't done anything wrong, according to her. He was a doter. She's fobbing it off as "just a mistake."

Now, please answer the question.

Stubborn in St. Paul,
Ellie

How can you be so sure?

She lied to her bf...what makes you think she isn't blowing smoke up your ass?
 
Lets just say the evidence was obvious. He was a tidy guy who had left the bed made up.

She was a bitch.

Eesh. Definitely.

So how much worse would it be if he hadn't picked up on it? If she'd watched him tuck in and take a nap in the long-dried sweat (and the rest) while pretending all was well?

I mean, ergh!

There's cheating (as if that isn't bad enough)... and then there's sociopathy.

Repulsed in Rwanda,
Ellie
 
How can you be so sure?

She lied to her bf...what makes you think she isn't blowing smoke up your ass?

Erm... she isn't the one who told me. She only made her explanations after she got caught. You see, there are... photos... and there she is, in his gear...

He wasn't just blindsided... he was massively, wrenchingly, humiliatingly blindsided in front of all.

Bummed on Behalf of Benevolent Boyfriends,
Ellie
 
There's an offsite discussion I'm having with some people and I'd like a little independent confirmation for something. Apparently, my not being a guy disqualifies me from having an accurate view.

Say you live with your girlfriend, and you're absolutely bonkers for each other, the picture of sublime happiness. You're yin to her yang. She's butter to your bread. You get it. You're so comfortable with each other, you even wear each other's clothes. She loves to put on your sweats or baseball cap. Occasionally you wear something of hers, even, but hidden.

And then, one day, you're blindsided by the unthinkable. You find out she cheated on you. Not only that, but you find out the guy she cheated with did the dry-hump nasty with her (among other things) while she was wearing your clothes. That's right - his questing member rubbed all over your cotton to get to her. And then she went home to you, discarded your clothing, and then smiled and pretended nothing was wrong when you put it on again.

Come on. Tell me that wouldn't make the whole thing that much more offensive.

Inquiring in Indianapolis,
Ellie
I was the guy she was with what can I say she likes big black dick
 
Nope. He hadn't done anything wrong, according to her. He was a doter. She's fobbing it off as "just a mistake."

Now, please answer the question.

Stubborn in St. Paul,
Ellie

Answering the question: Nope that wouldn't make it more offensive.

If you dig enough, she'll tell you the truth! She is lying...
 
Erm... she isn't the one who told me. She only made her explanations after she got caught. You see, there are... photos... and there she is, in his gear...

Erm....see.....you could have....I don't know, just said "There were pictures"....

But that would be just too much .....................for a condescending cunt like you......isn't it?

He wasn't just blindsided... he was massively, wrenchingly, humiliatingly blindsided in front of all.

Bummed on Behalf of Benevolent Boyfriends,
Ellie

Sucks for you man....
 
Part of my problem here is one of imagination, in that I'm having trouble picturing a woman who isn't already cuckoo for cocoa puffs willingly putting on my clothes for any reason. I'm a giant pig. Half my socks were purchased in the preceding century.

But to the point: I guess I agree with Misters Doe and Hogan. What you're describing may be a rubbing of salt in the wound (like the classic example, doing the cheating in the same bed you share), but the key point here is what caused the wound in the first place.
 
Inconclusive answer.

Betrayal is an irremovable stain, granted. Would it be worse, though, knowing that she came home, discarded your clothes that the guy had just been depositing himself on, and watched you put them on again?

Insistent in Idaho,
Ellie

How is it inconclusive? The first sentence means "I wouldn't give a shit about this thing". The second sentence means "I would give a shit about this other thing".
 
Erm....see.....you could have....I don't know, just said "There were pictures"....

But that would be just too much .....................for a condescending cunt like you......isn't it?



Sucks for you man....

Where is the hostility coming from? Jeez.

I didn't mention them because I didn't think they were relevant to what I was asking, and I still don't.

Jerk!

Annoyed in Annapolis,
Ellie
 
There's an offsite discussion I'm having with some people and I'd like a little independent confirmation for something. Apparently, my not being a guy disqualifies me from having an accurate view.

Say you live with your girlfriend, and you're absolutely bonkers for each other, the picture of sublime happiness. You're yin to her yang. She's butter to your bread. You get it. You're so comfortable with each other, you even wear each other's clothes. She loves to put on your sweats or baseball cap. Occasionally you wear something of hers, even, but hidden.

And then, one day, you're blindsided by the unthinkable. You find out she cheated on you. Not only that, but you find out the guy she cheated with did the dry-hump nasty with her (among other things) while she was wearing your clothes. That's right - his questing member rubbed all over your cotton to get to her. And then she went home to you, discarded your clothing, and then smiled and pretended nothing was wrong when you put it on again.

Come on. Tell me that wouldn't make the whole thing that much more offensive.

Inquiring in Indianapolis,
Ellie

Simple to me , it makes it worse because she didn't feel guilty by trying to remove her tracks in this case washing the clothes .
 
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