OK... so there are no women on here...

[TossAwayFellow978]

Well, I admit, I would like to be a man. I think I would like it.....Seems easier....the fact that it can be hard to get real woman to talk dirty to you on Lit aside. I will take more pay, seemingly less responsibility and not being in tons of pain every month. I know the guy experience is not easy.....but when I look at the entitlement of some guys here...I'm thinking the deferment and adoration expected here is reflective of real world expectations and experience. Also, to include the OP, like sometimes/ often happens in the real world, I feel like he blames woman for not sexing him instead of blaming men for impersonating us.

Honestly... I don't think it is harder for men on Lit.

Even f you concede the OP's point – than the burden of manhood is to go out and hunt the woman, and that sometimes there might be a penis on the other end instead of a vag, and woe is me because of the surprise sneaky penis and etc. etc. etc. (plays obligatory sad violin)... it's not like the woman's side is a cake walk.

I would propose that the respective difficulties of men and women – the latter being comprised of having to deal with male entitlement, with creepy guys and stalkers, and having to be careful with what you reveal about yourself in chats and forums, and so on and so on – roughly balance each other out. I'm not going to crunch the numbers and give them each a numeric value to prove their equivalence... but I feel it safe to say, in broad strokes, we each have our crosses to bear, and anyone assuming the grass is truly greener on the other side (at least in terms of hetero- and cis-based comparison) is setting themselves up for disappointment.

 

[TossAwayFellow978]

Dear God.

It's like turning over a stone and watching the bug life scuttle from the bright light.

For the sake of clarity, I repeat (not that the scuttlers will want to hear it): I never came on here to get into any woman's underwear. This site is supposed to be about writing (the clue is in its name). All I was seeking was a female partner interested in writing and plot/scenario discussion. Period, end of.

Got it yet?

Anyway, as it turns out there are either no women interested in that kind of arrangement or no women at all. Logically, there's no other possibility. I tend towards the latter view and I know I'm not alone. So, I've given up on trying to find the unfindable and will now welcome anyone, subject to the few but major provisos I mentioned. That's all I'm saying.

You can get yourself worked up into a socio-sexual lather as much as you want by reading (deliberately) erroneous things into what I've said but it just bounces off me.

Thanks to the few decent people who PM'd me... reply coming shortly.

lol... I mean, there you go again.

You assume that because no women are interested in doing this with you, therefore there must be no women. Logically!

It's like going out fishing in the middle of a lake, failing to catch anything and assuming there must be no fish there.

Might be something to do with user error, pal. Maybe there's something up with your rod. In the fishing metaphor, I mean, of course.

 

[KatieDoes]

Well, I admit, I would like to be a man. I think I would like it.....Seems easier....the fact that it can be hard to get real woman to talk dirty to you on Lit aside. I will take more pay, seemingly less responsibility and not being in tons of pain every month. I know the guy experience is not easy.....but when I look at the entitlement of some guys here...I'm thinking the deferment and adoration expected here is reflective of real world expectations and experience. Also, to include the OP, like sometimes/ often happens in the real world, I feel like he blames woman for not sexing him instead of blaming men for impersonating us.

I wouldn’t choose to be a man, if it were possible.

I think men, frequently, lead a very lonely existence. Lifelong conditioning that emotional needs are ‘women‘s work’ leads to unfulfilling relationships with both men and women. I think in most cases, their entitlement is a defense mechanism, clinging to whatever power they think they may have.

The genuinely masculine men I know, rather than men overcome with toxic masculinity, don’t behave like entitled neanderthals, desperate to prove their manliness. They‘re confident enough in themselves to not see women with opinions as some sort of threat to be diffused. Those men are rare, and an utter delight when discovered. But unfortunately, they have to deal with trying to build healthy social circles, while surrounded by…well…. the rest of these men.

 

[KatieDoes]

lol... I mean, there you go again.

You assume that because no women are interested in doing this with you, therefore there must be no women. Logically!

It's like going out fishing in the middle of a lake, failing to catch anything and assuming there must be no fish there.

Might be something to do with user error, pal. Maybe there's something up with your rod. In the fishing metaphor, I mean, of course.

Even his shout out to invite men is filled with barely veiled insults….

From the opening post:
“I'd now be open to having these discussions with anyone, the only stipulation being an ability to write in clear, unambiguous English free from the usual clutter of spelling and grammar errors. Yes, I know that that IS a huge ask on here but what the hell.”

Dude thinks he’s better than everyone, and that the reason no one wants to interact with him is because we’re all too stupid to see how perfect he is.

Super appealing for both men and women, no?

 

[SteelPoint]

OP, strongly suggest you re-read my last PM to you on the Story Ideas thing we were discussing. I don't know if it survived the so-called "upgrade". You'll see I was right about the ecology here. Admittedly, you have come close with "bug life"! Providing you just keep ignoring the usual look-at-me suspects and answering any honest PMs you get, that'll see you through.

 

[Diosax]

Even his shout out to invite men is filled with barely veiled insults….

From the opening post:
“I'd now be open to having these discussions with anyone, the only stipulation being an ability to write in clear, unambiguous English free from the usual clutter of spelling and grammar errors. Yes, I know that that IS a huge ask on here but what the hell.”

Dude thinks he’s better than everyone, and that the reason no one wants to interact with him is because we’re all too stupid to see how perfect he is.

Super appealing for both men and women, no?

I laughed when I read that. This man clearly has a superiority complex.

I find it so funny when people make it a requirement that you have perfect grammar and spelling.

Also people who get all high and mighty about "this page being about writing, it says so in the name" well, why are you posting here, in this section, there are plenty of sections dedicated to the writing, go there. No one wants you there either?

 

[SkyeGirl32]

Hahaha wow. His response was exactly what I thought it would be like. He can do no wrongs. And we’re all horrible people. Typical male behavior.

 

[KatieDoes]

Hahaha wow. His response was exactly what I thought it would be like. He can do no wrongs. And we’re all horrible people. Typical male behavior.

I’m pretty sure that his supporter is one of his own alts, as well.

 

[SkyeGirl32]

I’m pretty sure that his supporter is one of his own alts, as well.

I wouldn’t put it past him. Gotta make himself feel like he’s supported. “Boo hoo they’re all beating up on me! It’s not fair!” Such a cry baby man child. Lol

 

[Dribble]

I see why he needs help with writing.

 

[quasimodm]

I used to think that being sapio- and demisexual (realizations -- and labels -- that came much later but hopefully not too late in life) was some kind of innate flaw.

An emotional connection -- at least unilaterally -- certainly proved to be a handicap when, after the only one-night-stand I ever experienced (in college), I was the one calling her the next day <cue that minute Stradivarius>.

I certainly can't speak for all men (not least of which because it would be EXHAUSTING), but I've found myself here because I enjoy getting to know (and perhaps shamelessly flirt with) a population that is, on average, more intelligent, more literate, more genuine and vastly more interesting than the norm to be found on other personals sites.

Or, to badly paraphrase @KatieDoes, I have the misfortune of needing to like a girl BEFORE I want to stick my dick in her.

 

[SkyeGirl32]

We are here, OP. We just don’t want to talk to you.

YES! THIS!

 

[crazychemgirl]

We are here, OP. We just don’t want to talk to you.

Seconded.

 

[RandallOldman]

I only wanna be a man so i can stand to pee and make my weewee do the helicopter

That's about the best thing about it.

 

[georgerb]

That's about the best thing about it.

Maybe, but there's just something self pleasing about pissing out in the yard, whether you should or shouldn't....

 

[YourgirlfriendLaura]

Funny too, that the OP has NO STORIES on Lit. So all his talk of plot scenarios....is for what?

 

[georgerb]

Funny too, that the OP has NO STORIES on Lit. So all his talk of plot scenarios....is for what?

Probably that private jerk-off book......

 

[SkyeGirl32]

I also find it funny that he’s looking for people to talk to re-story concepts, but it’s done in the personals forum and not in one of the story forums..

Dude, we see right through you and you’re being an immature creep who can’t see he doesn’t have what the women want so that’s why we want nothing to do with you or your messages. Lol

 

[YourgirlfriendLaura]

And women will work with with serious male authors here. Yes, if he is not full of it, a request for feedback on a real story would belong in AH.

 

[SkyeGirl32]

And women will work with with serious male authors here. Yes, if he is not full of it, a request for feedback on a real story would belong in AH.

EXACTLY!!

 

[TossAwayFellow978]

We are here, OP. We just don’t want to talk to you.

I don't have a vagina, but I would also like to second this.

 

[NorthernVAM]

Truly, the only time I’m ever envious of men is while camping. I have to take a full on excursion into the woods alone to pee, and y’all just unzip and turn off the side of the hiking trail and never even leave the conversation.

I kind of think you are somewhat "over simplifying" the process here ...

So ... in my experience, it has always taken a bit of concentration to get the stream flowing, and during that period of time, I don't think I could carry on the conversation. And then once the stream is flowing, you kind of lose control of it because it hurts like the devil if you try and stop it. So at that point -- while the stream is flowing you can talk since the bladder has taken control of the situation.

I just don't want you to think there isn't some "complexity" behind the entire process ...

 

[Dribble]

Funny too, that the OP has NO STORIES on Lit. So all his talk of plot scenarios....is for what?

Picture book...

 

[magicsherman247]

Totally agree with VAM. As a fellow Virginian, he's 100% correct that starting a conversation requires energy. Of course, you need to ensure you are actually conversing with a woman. The OP is correct that there a ton more men than women. The trick is finding a genuine woman here who wants to converse. Not saying impossible. Verifying a real person with voice is essential.

 

[TossAwayFellow978]

Totally agree with VAM. As a fellow Virginian, he's 100% correct that starting a conversation requires energy. Of course, you need to ensure you are actually conversing with a woman. The OP is correct that there a ton more men than women. The trick is finding a genuine woman here who wants to converse. Not saying impossible. Verifying a real person with voice is essential.

... He's... talking... about peeing...