Obama's Pledge Never to Raise Taxes on Anyone Making Less Than $250,000 a Year

[miles]

It must have been his evil twin who made this speech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Q8erePM8V5U

 

[phrodeau]

You seem to have forgotten that he reduced taxes years ago.

 

[Ham Murabi]

You seem to have forgotten that he reduced taxes years ago.

So it wasn't really a promise then, right?

 

[mercury14]

So it wasn't really a promise then, right?

Taxes are the same for those under $250k as when he made that speech. Where's the broken promise?

 

[BotanyBoy]

You seem to have forgotten that he reduced taxes years ago.

By extending the bush tax cuts? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

Also do you think these mega corps are going to eat his "Stick it to the rich man" taxes? Fuel tax increases, energy tax, carbon foot print tax and on and on and on....

And people wonder why milk is 10 bucks a fucking gallon now

Yea maybe we can tax big oil for a trillion next year, they don't NEED all that money and they need to pay their FAIR share......because that wont fuck everyone right in the ass across the board.

So stupid...GAWD!!

 

[mercury14]

By extending the bush tax cuts? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

Also do you think these mega corps are going to eat his "Stick it to the rich man" taxes? Fuel tax increases, energy tax, carbon foot print tax and on and on and on....

And people wonder why milk is 10 bucks a fucking gallon now

Yea maybe we can tax big oil for a trillion next year, they don't NEED all that money and they need to pay their FAIR share......because that wont fuck everyone right in the ass across the board.

So stupid...GAWD!!

He's referring to the payroll tax, bro.

 

[BotanyBoy]

He's referring to the payroll tax, bro.

So? Does it matter? Fucking poor people up front or on the back end.....still getting fucked.

The person making 250k and taking home 120 isn't worried about milk being 20 bucks next year when things get even more "Green" .....the single mom making 35k a year who barely able to afford food now most certainly is.

Oh and all those Obama care taxes they are going to "Stick" to big companies...hahahahahahahahahah oh man I can't wait to see what happens to the prices of EVERYTHING....70k is going to be the new poverty line bro!

 

[mercury14]

So? Does it matter? Fucking poor people up front or on the back end.....still getting fucked.

So if working poor people pay less in taxes they get fucked?

The person making 250k and taking home 120 isn't worried about milk being 20 bucks next year when things get even more "Green" .....the single mom making 35k a year who barely able to afford food now most certainly is.

So congress should pass the farm bill. And they will. Or conservatives will have their way and milk will be $10 per gallon because they philosophically oppose government price fiddling.

Oh and all those Obama care taxes they are going to "Stick" to big companies...hahahahahahahahahah oh man I can't wait to see what happens to the prices of EVERYTHING....70k is going to be the new poverty line bro!

Hospitals and providers will no longer have to write off the cost of treating the uninsured, meaning there's going to be a significant force bringing costs down. And there are exchanges. We'll see how is all ends up but don't fall into the trap of assuming it's all just cost increases.

 

[Ham Murabi]

You are hallucinating if you think a $600B tax increase won't harm the poor in one fashion or another - and their taxes are going up.
Plus, another $4 trillion in debt is going to be racked up.
I'm not sure we can survive any more stimulus.

 

[mercury14]

You are hallucinating if you think a $600B tax increase won't harm the poor in one fashion or another - and their taxes are going up.

It will not in any measurable fashion.

Plus, another $4 trillion in debt is going to be racked up.

You were lied to. It's $4 trillion more compared to letting all Bush tax cuts expire for everyone.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Stalin murdered 10s of millions and the Russians ioved him. Many went to their graves praising him until the moment he shot them in the head. Thats how plenty of people are. Simple Obama Worshipers.

 

[Exquisition]

Stalin murdered 10s of millions and the Russians ioved him. Many went to their graves praising him until the moment he shot them in the head. Thats how plenty of people are. Simple Obama Worshipers.

You comparing Obama to Stalin? Seriously?

 

[BotanyBoy]

So if working poor people pay less in taxes they get fucked?

They aren't paying less in taxes day day that's what I'm saying.

On the pay role yes they get off the hook...but at the cash register they are getting fucked just like every other consumer. Do you think big oil, farms, ranches, processing and distribution facilities just eat the cost when "green" taxes are levied on them? You think CEO and CFO just whip out their check book and cover that cow fart bill?

No....the person buying the gallon of milk, the bunch of beets or w/e pays that tax. So who does that fuel/carbon foot print/cow fart/obamacare etc tax fuck the hardest? Poor people....

So congress should pass the farm bill. And they will. Or conservatives will have their way and milk will be $10 per gallon because they philosophically oppose government price fiddling.

HAHAHA because government price setting FAILS...it's just another subsidy/ corporate welfare program. No gallon of milk will cost more than 5 bucks!! YAAAYYY!! bullshit....if the gallon of milk cost 8.50 tax payer is covering 3.50 or there is no fucking milk it's just that simple.

Hospitals and providers will no longer have to write off the cost of treating the uninsured, meaning there's going to be a significant force bringing costs down. And there are exchanges. We'll see how is all ends up but don't fall into the trap of assuming it's all just cost increases.

Oh please obamacare is a money funnel for big pharm...that's why the threw million dollar parties when it passed, they are going to make tens of BILLIONS every year off of it. But that's not what I'm talking about.....

I'm talking about the increased cost to companies that have to insure their employees.....from maw and paw to Home Depot to the Grocery story cost of doing business is going the fuck up. Companies do not pay taxes or cost of doing business as it were....consumers do, which leads us back to the poor getting fucked harder than anyone.

You comparing Obama to Stalin? Seriously?

L2 Read..he was comparing their worshipers.

 

[mercury14]

Home Depot and most companies already gave health benefits. Those mom and pop grocery stores are exempt from getting taxed if they don't.

Government milk price controls don't fail because their objective is to keep milk prices affordable for folks who would otherwise struggle to afford it. Those people aren't paying a lot in taxes and they're getting a fair bit in return.

Yes Obamacare helps pharm companies. And insurance companies. And medical device companies... I agree wholeheartedly. I don't think pharm prices are coming down if that's what you're implying I think.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Home Depot and most companies already gave health benefits. Those mom and pop grocery stores are exempt from getting taxed if they don't.

So if Obamacare isn't costing anyone anything why do we need to raise revenue for it?

Government milk price controls don't fail because their objective is to keep milk prices affordable for folks who would otherwise struggle to afford it. Those people aren't paying a lot in taxes and they're getting a fair bit in return.

And if the gov set's the price at 4 bucks but it actually cost 6 to make who the fuck is going to cover that cost? Dairy farmers don't make shit....milk price is all in the processing to meet FDA standards and fuel to ship/distribute it. Those are cost that can NOT be just wished away by the wave of a gov wand....someone will have to pay for it and that someone will be the consumer.

You can artificially shift the cost around but you can't make them go away.

Yes Obamacare helps pharm companies. And insurance companies. And medical device companies... I agree wholeheartedly. I don't think pharm prices are coming down if that's what you're implying I think.

Fuck no they aren't...if gov will pay up to 250 bucks an Advil guess what they are going to charge? 250 fucking bucks each!! And that is why big pharma/insurance rejoiced at obamacare. It's a hundreds of billions of dollars mega corp circle jerk welfare bill that expanded HC to JUUUUUUUUUUST enough people to gain lemming approval and pass. Single payer would have been cheaper, covered EVERYONE and the people would have gotten far more...he had it opportunity!! Congress....SCOTUS...everyone behind him waiting for him to pull the trigger....could have cut cost and gone down as the greatest POTUS in history and he sold out.

 

[RjThoughts]

Home Depot and most companies already gave health benefits. Those mom and pop grocery stores are exempt from getting taxed if they don't.

Government milk price controls don't fail because their objective is to keep milk prices affordable for folks who would otherwise struggle to afford it. Those people aren't paying a lot in taxes and they're getting a fair bit in return.

Yes Obamacare helps pharm companies. And insurance companies. And medical device companies... I agree wholeheartedly. I don't think pharm prices are coming down if that's what you're implying I think.

No no no, Obamacare doesn't help health insurance companies. No, they're not hiring people, clerks and computer programmers. No, they're not giving raises to employees because they have more work to do. Come on, it's all a lie!! /sarcasm

 

[BotanyBoy]

No no no, Obamacare doesn't help health insurance companies. No, they're not hiring people, clerks and computer programmers. No, they're not giving raises to employees because they have more work to do. Come on, it's all a lie!! /sarcasm

They all got a multi billion dollar a year raise....no one is disputing that...

Just tired of the white house's corporate shlong sucking.....UHC would have been cheaper, ass wipe. I used to think you were socially liberal but I can see you are just a tribal ninny.

 

[phrodeau]

By extending the bush tax cuts? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

Also do you think these mega corps are going to eat his "Stick it to the rich man" taxes? Fuel tax increases, energy tax, carbon foot print tax and on and on and on....

And people wonder why milk is 10 bucks a fucking gallon now

Yea maybe we can tax big oil for a trillion next year, they don't NEED all that money and they need to pay their FAIR share......because that wont fuck everyone right in the ass across the board.

So stupid...GAWD!!

You paid $10 for a gallon of milk?

Sucks to be you.

 

[mercury14]

So if Obamacare isn't costing anyone anything why do we need to raise revenue for it?

Where are you getting the idea that Obamacare doesn't cost anything?

And if the gov set's the price at 4 bucks but it actually cost 6 to make who the fuck is going to cover that cost? Dairy farmers don't make shit....milk price is all in the processing to meet FDA standards and fuel to ship/distribute it. Those are cost that can NOT be just wished away by the wave of a gov wand....someone will have to pay for it and that someone will be the consumer.

You can artificially shift the cost around but you can't make them go away.

More accurately the taxpayer, not the consumer. People who get taxed less are more likely to come out ahead.

Fuck no they aren't...if gov will pay up to 250 bucks an Advil guess what they are going to charge? 250 fucking bucks each!! And that is why big pharma/insurance rejoiced at obamacare. It's a hundreds of billions of dollars mega corp circle jerk welfare bill that expanded HC to JUUUUUUUUUUST enough people to gain lemming approval and pass. Single payer would have been cheaper, covered EVERYONE and the people would have gotten far more...he had it opportunity!! Congress....SCOTUS...everyone behind him waiting for him to pull the trigger....could have cut cost and gone down as the greatest POTUS in history and he sold out.

I 100% agree single payer would have been better but the support wasn't there. It wasn't even there for the public option which is kind of appalling.

Not sure what you mean with with Advil bit. How does that apply to Obamacare?

 

[unregistered]

 

[mercury14]

Your SS taxes are going up 2%.

Which does nothing but cancel out their 2% cut. What's your point?

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

You comparing Obama to Stalin? Seriously?

I'm comparing sycophants, dear. Each has/had plenty. And if Obama decides to whack a few million plenty will consider it an honor to be among the chosen.

Obama supporters are political cuckolds.

 

[RobDownSouth]

So it wasn't really a promise then, right?

Federal income tax rates on those making less than $250,000 per year have not changed. This is a documented fact that you appear unable or unwilling to acknowledge. President Obama kept his promise.

 

[unregistered]

 

[mercury14]

Federal income tax rates on those making less than $250,000 per year have not changed. This is a documented fact that you appear unable or unwilling to acknowledge. President Obama kept his promise.

But the tanning, Rob, the TANNING! Someone with very low income who tans every 13 hours will pay more in tanning taxes than they got from the payroll tax holiday. It's an OUTRAGE!!!