obama care will lead to a single heath care system

jeninflorida

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told you, you stupid fuckers

socialism - its the end of America

oh well, live it up you slaves...america is now an entitlement nation. become a slave, get free stuff
 
government is never the solution, government is the fucking problem


remember government is where the stupid people work, after all, even unqualified people need a job. wait, isn't this against the obama economic policy? why should people work when the welfare is a valid career path for democrats?
 
If you call others stupid, what do you call yourself?
I have seen the things you post here and apparently you didn't graduate high school.
 
Sayin it don't make it so. And who in hell knows what dingy harry means by SINGLE PAYER.

But Americans are no smarter than the Jews were in Germany. Nothing pissed off Jews more than knowing that someone outwitted the SS and Gestapo, and avoided capture and murder. Jews were Hitlers best informers. And Jews are smarter than most Americans.
 
its sad...I don't think most American's care about what obamacare is ... as long as its "free"

obama is such a piece of shit
 
told you, you stupid fuckers

socialism - its the end of America

oh well, live it up you slaves...america is now an entitlement nation. become a slave, get free stuff

Capitalism is working just fine isn't it :rolleyes:
 
problem is, Obama care is anything but free. In fact it will greatly increase the cost of healthcare due to all its regulations. Soon employers will stop offering healthcare, why should they since you will be required to have coverage. And that coverage will be the government plan. When has our government shown that they can manage anything.
 
it would be if obama wasn't hell bent on socialism and slavery

It's got fuck all to do with Obama, capitalism has been destroying America since Reagan.

Once the corporations were given power and were not regulated properly that was the start of a downward spiral. That's why the national debt is huge yet nobody has any money.

A tiny % of the population have a stronghold on almost all of the wealth, when an asthma inhaler can cost whatever a pharmaceutical wants it to cost you've got a major problem. How are average people expected to survive in that sort of economy?
 
problem is, Obama care is anything but free. In fact it will greatly increase the cost of healthcare due to all its regulations. Soon employers will stop offering healthcare, why should they since you will be required to have coverage. And that coverage will be the government plan. When has our government shown that they can manage anything.



omg, someone with intelligence! YES YOU GET IT!!!!!


wow, that is refreshing. Great post! We need to bitch slap those like Merc, UD, RobDownSouth, Luke, SgtPeppperDumbass, DickDaily....and the numerous others.

obama care doesn't make health insurance affordable, it takes from the hard working to give to the non-working obama fans
 
It's got fuck all to do with Obama, capitalism has been destroying America since Reagan.

Once the corporations were given power and were not regulated properly that was the start of a downward spiral. That's why the national debt is huge yet nobody has any money.

A tiny % of the population have a stronghold on almost all of the wealth, when an asthma inhaler can cost whatever a pharmaceutical wants it to cost you've got a major problem. How are average people expected to survive in that sort of economy?


I'm not going to discount your points, as they are good points. and I like checks and balances and your point of view.

This has nothing to do with what you said but needs to get entered into the equation

...if you want to take an upward spiral only in America can you become or create the next "Facebook" ...


the problem with America is that we have government workers, union, and a large % of the population that has voted democrat in exchange for welfare and free housing.
 
I think the aca will collapse under its own weight. I was opposed to delaying its implementation as it was an overtly political move. The Democrats knew they would get destroyed. I think the majority of us will experience higher cost, restricted access and lower quality.
Health care does need reform. It is too expensive. I was sure that Mr. Obama would make Tort Reform the very first step in his health care reform program. He lost me, many other citizens and health care providers when he took tort reform off the table.
I think really significant reform could be accomplished within the existing framework.
 
Ok, here goes....
As a foreigner, I don't understand the US health system. What I hear though, is that many, many people go broke or bankrupt if they have a health problem because the cost of healthcare is so high.
Why would any developed nation allow people to get into hundreds of thousands of $ debt, just because they were unlucky enough to get sick?
I admit, our health system in Australia isn't perfect - hell, people wait for years on the punlic system just to get simple operations like a knee replacement - but every single citizen who fronts up to an ED gets treated for free, regardless of their financial situation.
Basic health care is provided, and ongoing care is free as well, so long as you are prepared to deal with wait times, etc.
And all it costs you is a 1.5% levy on your yearly tax.

Of course, each person has the option of taking out Private Health cover..... but even WITH that insurance, you can still get treated free at a public hospital.

To an outsider, the American system seems awfully biased - can't afford the outrageous costs and you die, sort of thing.
 
I think what you are starting to see is the elasticity of welfare biting back. meaning, the working class is getting pissed off at the obama class and their consumption and demand for more and more entitlements.

We have generations upon generations which has lived off entitlements. just go into any housing project and you see slaves. these people exchange their freedom and freewill for their vote and its this vote that has put obama in power.

I think people are getting pissed off at how much money obama (and thugs) regime is taking and demanding more...and more and more.

so with obama care, we take from the working class to supplement the lazy-obama class

yes, our health care needs reform but obamacare is just another word for septic as obama is taking our system into the crapper

Ok, here goes....
As a foreigner, I don't understand the US health system. What I hear though, is that many, many people go broke or bankrupt if they have a health problem because the cost of healthcare is so high.
Why would any developed nation allow people to get into hundreds of thousands of $ debt, just because they were unlucky enough to get sick?
I admit, our health system in Australia isn't perfect - hell, people wait for years on the punlic system just to get simple operations like a knee replacement - but every single citizen who fronts up to an ED gets treated for free, regardless of their financial situation.
Basic health care is provided, and ongoing care is free as well, so long as you are prepared to deal with wait times, etc.
And all it costs you is a 1.5% levy on your yearly tax.

Of course, each person has the option of taking out Private Health cover..... but even WITH that insurance, you can still get treated free at a public hospital.

To an outsider, the American system seems awfully biased - can't afford the outrageous costs and you die, sort of thing.
 
Opinion is opinion

Me personally, I think every person brought into the world should have the right to healthcare and a proper education. How is someone supposed to make it in life when they've got no base to build from.

That's just me.
 
problem is, Obama care is anything but free. In fact it will greatly increase the cost of healthcare due to all its regulations. Soon employers will stop offering healthcare, why should they since you will be required to have coverage. And that coverage will be the government plan. When has our government shown that they can manage anything.
Heh. When the gov't tells us not to worry, that's when we should be scared shitless.


Opinion is opinion

Me personally, I think every person brought into the world should have the right to healthcare and a proper education. How is someone supposed to make it in life when they've got no base to build from.

That's just me.
I think we all agree w/your opinion. The problem lies in how to do so fairly.
 
told you, you stupid fuckers

socialism - its the end of America

oh well, live it up you slaves...america is now an entitlement nation. become a slave, get free stuff

LOL GOOD!!!it works better than our current system by every measurable means.
 
I don't understand where you get this idea that socialism is the evil of the world

Just having some kind of universal healthcare system doesn't mean socialism at all, there's plenty of democracies that have it and although not perfect it's still appreciated and cherished.

I fucking hate how everyone assumes communism is the Joseph Stalin kind when it's fucking not, some people really need a history lesson, but then again they can't because the education system is broken
 
America, for the most part leads in the creation of new drugs and medical proedures/devices. when you remove the capitalist side of health care there will be less drugs and other medical advances.

capitalism and competition drives humans to create and be successful.

this is why America's standerds of living is higher than compared to other nations. now, I can see how some do not agree with this but if you remove those that voted for obama we have a total different America. obama supporters by vast majority only want entitlements and have no desire to work or better their lives. they just want things handed to them for free. free education, free car, free house, free food, free health insurance, free health care .....

jessie jackson and al sharpton bring people down and pray on the weak. if we remove their followers, or force them to work we save the tax payer hundred of billions of dollars. welfare is not a career yet obama and jackson demand for welfare to become a career path.

side note, we have many neighbors that come to America from UK, Canada, France... to have procedures done to avoid the long lines and the simple fact that some procedures are not even offered in their "socialist" health care system.
 
America, for the most part leads in the creation of new drugs and medical proedures/devices. when you remove the capitalist side of health care there will be less drugs and other medical advances.

capitalism and competition drives humans to create and be successful.

this is why America's standerds of living is higher than compared to other nations. now, I can see how some do not agree with this but if you remove those that voted for obama we have a total different America. obama supporters by vast majority only want entitlements and have no desire to work or better their lives. they just want things handed to them for free. free education, free car, free house, free food, free health insurance, free health care .....

jessie jackson and al sharpton bring people down and pray on the weak. if we remove their followers, or force them to work we save the tax payer hundred of billions of dollars. welfare is not a career yet obama and jackson demand for welfare to become a career path.

side note, we have many neighbors that come to America from UK, Canada, France... to have procedures done to avoid the long lines and the simple fact that some procedures are not even offered in their "socialist" health care system.

I'm on my phone so can't dissect the garbage in that post.

It couldn't be anymore off target if it tried
 
socialism is for quitters! for people that don't want skin in the game. its just that simple

I'm not saying I agree with all the aspects of socialism, my point is if I had a choice between that and capitalism it would be socialism all day long.
 
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