Nucular vs Nuclear

[Ms_Lilith]

Look. My boyfriend says NUCULAR. It drives me up the wall. He knows he's wrong, and is working on changing it, cus he realizes that it comes across as uneducated. He also says AMONDS, for Almonds. Drives me nuts.

Maybe I'm snotty about language, but when people speak incorrectly, it bothers me.

Yes, I already admitted it's a cheap shot at Bush. I don't like his policies, I think he was the perfect president to have in power if you wanted a war, and I don't think he's particularly bright. Not just because of NUCULAR, but because of other things that he's said, other non-scripted statements he's made where his mentality has shone through. I listen when he speaks. And I don't just listen for his mistakes. I listen for what he has to say. I took time out of my day yesterday to listen to his speech. TWICE, so that I could understand better what the American Political and War agenda is.

Now then. I still think the man is an idiot.

I'm sorry.

 

[Carp]

I think it is an affectation, as someone stated earlier. Just as his father pronounced Sadam Sodam, as in Sodomize, which i also thought was an affectation. But a better one. It created an image that was useful for Bush SR.

 

[sexy-girl]

as topher said i don't think its accent based ... i know people in the uk that say it wrong

to me its just bad pronunciation and thats the same as bad spelling in my opinion ... you wouldn't want government letters wtih bad spelling and you shouldn't have government speechs with bad pronunciation


they even made fun of homer saying it wrong on the simpsons

 

[Ms_Lilith]

Not in everyone's opinion. So sounding southern = sounding like a dumbass. Thanx for pointing that out.

like I pointed out earlier, some people with southern accents say it, some people without the accent say it.

either way, it gets to me. Call it a peeve.

 

[Topher]

explain tortilla

fillet.


This can be argued either way

They're both foreign borrowings.

I've heard many Brits pronounce it "tor-TEAL-luh" so they might not understand the example.

 

[k¡tty]

Actually, Vixenshe, Emerald is right. The pronunciation used by Bush is such common usage in some locations as to be considered a "southern colloquialism." Your criticism is probably a bit more narrow minded that you intended.

While I may think Susan Sarandon is a ditz, I don't criticize how she wears her makeup. I figure it's just a Hollyweird thing.

Exactly.


I have a southern accent and I get a good natured tease when I say certain words.

Color they say sounds like collar.
Because - someone said it sounds similiar to a crow becawwse

There are many more, but no one lost respect for my intelligence simply because of my accent. It seems a bit narrow minded to me if that's what others do.

 

[April]

Chretien. 'Nuff said.

 

[Ms_Lilith]

Chretien. 'Nuff said.

*snicker* oh I know.

Look, if you have an accent that doesn't affect other words and affects this one, then it bugs me. If your accent affects all words, then okay, I get it.

My dad says NortherEN and SoutherEN and EasterEN and WesterEN.

Like Kitty said, he says COLLAR for colour. He's dutch. He says 'dis dat and de odder ting' for 'this that and the other thing'.

Drives me crazy.

I'm OCD. A lot of things get under my skin. This is one of them.

 

[just pet]

Education has nothing to do with their speech.......


She was a teacher huh? Well, maybe that should be enough to keep your cedibilty, shes obviosly a damn good nuse to go on to teaching...

Shes beyond an RN. Bsn maybe?

Beyond an RN?

This is a hijack and a moot point, but I have beyond BSN and it was in a BSN program that I encountered her. She also spoke of the anti-cancer drug classification of "prune inhibitors". This brilliant mispronounciation referred to "purine inhibitors".
She was fired.

 

[bad kitty]

We are judged by our verbal skills (remember the SATs?). It hurts credibility. Bush represents America to the world. His image is our image. I had a teacher in nursing school who referred to the "umbiblical cord" in her lecture. She lost all credibility with me. I knew what she meant, but she sounded uneducated, all respect lost by the entire class.

I disagree, but I am sure you knew that. I just wanted to say I saw your sig line for the first time. I am so honored

 

[just pet]

I disagree, but I am sure you knew that. I just wanted to say I saw your sig line for the first time. I am so honored

 

[bluespoke]

"prune inhibitors".

I must tell the rest of the staff in our hospice that one tomorrow!

 

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[Tan&Hard&Ready]

Bush and Carter

I'm with those who cringe when Bush says "nuculer". He gave a major speech a few months after being in office in which he'd obviously been coached to prounounce the word correctly. He did . . . the first five or six times, then regressed to nuculer.

The regional pronunciation argument has merit, too. Look no further than Jimmy Carter, who was a nuclear guy when he was in the navy. Jimmy prounounced it 'nuculer' too.

 

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[bad kitty]

I'm OCD. A lot of things get under my skin. This is one of them.

You have OCD, not I'm OCD.

I have OCD as well, and I realize that my quirks are MY problem not everyone else's.

It is your (and the few that agree with you) opinion that it sounds stupid, uneducated, and is not proper. In reality it is just another form of discrimintation. Plain and simple.

 

[Guest]

Vix, we better be careful. Ever been able to understand every word Chretien says?

 

[just pet]

EE, I am not disagreeing with you at all. You are right about accents and regional differences. They do not signal intelligence or even expertise. The point is how it looks for our President to pronounce the word incorrectly. It does have a deleterious effect. I want my President to appear intelligent and well educated. I have a very close friend who speaks in ebonics. He is very bright but when he axes me a question, or goes to the liberry, it reflects poorly. He has learned to speak proper (forgive the judgement here...) English at his work, now receiving the promotions he deserves.

 

[Topher]

Originally posted by Emerald_eyed
there are differnt southern accents.....

True. The primary division is between the Southern Drawl (think Scarlet O'Hara) and the lower-class twang (think Dolly Parton).

Dolly is from one county over from me so our accents are similar though not exactly the same, as it is also true that there is a lot of nuance in each of these two major classes.

People like Texans sometimes sound like something all together different, yet related, and sometimes they sound like people from around here to me. Texas is a big state, so I imagine there is a lot of variation. It's also TN's sister state, so there is a connection there - just btw.

Alabam (ians) and Floridans sound differnt.

Floridians, especially southern ones, are mostly yankees.

IT is considered the norm from most.

I don't know about that.

OK, so you are not saying Nuclear is from a differnt language? Americans made it up? Is it an American Word?

It is the adjectival form of "nucleus" Latin for "kernel".

Do you pronounce that word "NOO-kyuh-luhs"?

 

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[Problem Child]

Stupid thread.

minus a bazillion.

 

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[JazzManJim]

Hey, he graduated from Yale and managed to successfully run one of the largest states in the US.

He can pronounce it "Banarna" for all I give a fuck.

 

[Problem Child]

I agree, and yet I keep posting on it

I didn't want to say anything directly to you cuz I tend to crush on you a little.