Not so Swing Seats Swnging

[Chadrone]

They're the ONLY Pubs who have any FUTURE after January 2029

You've been saying that since the 2000's and the exact opposite has and is still happening.

-- that's when the MAGA train crashes and cannot be repaired.

LOL......cope harder.

 

[Wilson23]

You've been saying that since the 2000's and the exact opposite has and is still happening.



LOL......cope harder.

How can the MAGA wing have any electoral appeal after Trump's disastrous failures and crimes? Trump has discredited populist nationalism like Hitler discredited racism.

 

[Chadrone]

How can the MAGA wing have any electoral appeal after Trump's disastrous failures and crimes? Trump has discredited populist nationalism like Hitler discredited racism.

Your delusions aren't actual failures or crimes.

No. You globo commies lost.

 

[Wilson23]

Your delusions aren't actual failures or crimes.

But the economic effects of tariffs and deportations are.

 

[ChloeTzang]

.......His control is slipping, though. MTG may be the first snowflake of the avalanche that buries him.

And if you follow a lot of conservative posters and commenterist's, the general consensus is most of them are totally fucked off by the GOP and by Trump - all talk and no action is the general theme - MTG is by no means alonne - she represents a LOT of the hardcore base - and then there's the ones like me who are already gone over a variety of issues - in my cases, Ukraine, in other cases, screwing farmers, taiffd and jobs lost as a result, this stupud Seate Bill forking over billions for immigrants - that's just deliberate suicide.

It's like the GOP are deliberately engineerinf themselves to lose the mid-terms thru a combination of doing nothing, ineptitude and sheer stupidity. They are doing their level best to hand the mid-terms to the Democrats and ensure Trump and Vance impeached - and Trump has attacked his own hard-core support. There is NOT going to be a massive pro-Trump turnout of the mid-terms to save anyone's bacon and by the grace of God, Trump will be gone by the end of 2026, or at least a lame duck for the remainder of his term - and he has only himself to blame.

All he had to do was focus on three things - deporting illegals, making DOGE and eliminating graft, corruption and waste a success, recucing the fuck out f the Federal Govt - and leave the economy to look after itself.

That, ana clean up the electroral system, gut the DOJ and the FBI, and get the military straightend out.

He fucked all of that and screwed up everything else he's touched.

The next GOP populist leader will learn from all this.....The working class united will never be defeated!

 

[Wilson23]

And if you follow a lot of conservative posters and commenterist's, the general consensus is most of them are totally fucked off by the GOP and by Trump - all talk and no action is the general theme

Just what action do they want, that this Admin neglects?

 

[Wilson23]

All he had to do was focus on three things - deporting illegals, making DOGE and eliminating graft, corruption and waste a success, recucing the fuck out f the Federal Govt - and leave the economy to look after itself.

Even if he had, there was never a possibility it would produce anything but the dismal economic consequences we're suffering now.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Just what action do they want, that this Admin neglects?

LOL. Read, Wilson, Read. They wnat what was promised delivered.

They don't want endless yap yap and yap and no delivery.

Follow Meidas too - I don't agree witn uch of the opinions expressed bu that are occasional gems and he's great on Trump and Ukraine!


https://www.youtube.com/@MeidasTouch/videos

 

[Wilson23]

LOL. Read, Wilson, Read. They wnat what was promised delivered.

They don't want endless yap yap and yap and no delivery.

Well, they delivered deportations, they delivered DOGE, they delivered tariffs. Trump never promised a war but it looks like he'll deliver that too.

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
So what did Trump want that Congress didn't give him?

Codification of policy, everything from immigration reform and border control to ending the NFA and doing DOGE properly.

They could even come out right now drop all sorts of legislation on his desk RIGHT NOW that he'd sign with a smile and has openly asked them for but they won't give him because they need that MONEY!!! to keep flowing from their donors.

Here is one, kicking multinational coproations and foreign nationals out of the US's single family housing market. It would make him the most worshiped hero of an American president for generations to come and cost him absolutely NOTHING, and probably enrich his family bigly but I 100% gurantee you that NO Congress will ever give him that bill to sign.

Saying things like "Codification of policy" is just vague.

As for immigration reform, well, Trump claimed that all the shoving-people-into-unmarked-vans-because-of-their-accent-or-skin-colour was already within the law, so what changes could he be asking for?

As for DOGE, well, Leon Skum was in charge of that, wasn't he? He's not in Congress.

The rest of the stuff sounds like what you want Trump to want to do, but big corporations and foreign nationals (like MBS) put money into his pocket, "enriching" him, so it's unlikely he'll do anything about them.

 

[Wilson23]

Here is one, kicking multinational coproations and foreign nationals out of the US's single family housing market.

A president does not have that authority and Congress probably could not do it constitutionally.

 

[Hel_Books]

It's like the GOP are deliberately engineerinf themselves to lose the mid-terms thru a combination of doing nothing, ineptitude and sheer stupidity. They are doing their level best to hand the mid-terms to the Democrats and ensure Trump and Vance impeached -

Well, Trump is a crook, a grifter, a rapist, so impeachment would be a positive thing.

 

[Wilson23]

No. You globo commies lost.

Those couldn't lose, they were never on the ballot -- and would not have been if Sanders had.

 

[Wilson23]

Well, Trump is a crook, a grifter, a rapist, so impeachment would be a positive thing.

Pointless, though, unless the Dems have 2/3 of the Senate. Pubs wouldn't vote to convict if he showed up on the Senate floor and shot several at random.

 

[YDB95]

Pointless, though, unless the Dems have 2/3 of the Senate. Pubs wouldn't vote to convict if he showed up on the Senate floor and shot several at random.

Last time he was impeached, several Republican senators expressed off the record that they knew they really ought to vote to convict. This time around, they'll no longer have any reason to fear him, since everyone except Trump himself understands he can't run again.

 

[Chadrone]

But the economic effects of tariffs and deportations are.

LMFAO!!

Yea if you're depending on Chynuh or are an illegal immigrant I'm sure it seems that way.

 

[Wilson23]

LMFAO!!

Yea if you're depending on Chynuh or are an illegal immigrant I'm sure it seems that way.

It's obvious now that neither deportations nor tariffs are going to produce the benefits Trump promised, and will cause great harm.

 

[Chadrone]

It's obvious now that neither deportations nor tariffs are going to produce the benefits Trump promised, and will cause great harm.

The Deportations have been minimal and aren't causing harm to anyone but fradulent scum Democrats.

Cry more.

 

[Wilson23]

The Deportations have been minimal and aren't causing harm to anyone but fradulent scum Democrats.

Cry more.

They're causing harm to everyone who depends on immigrant labor, which means ALL of us. One more reason for skyrocketing grocery prices.

 

[Chadrone]

They're causing harm to everyone who depends on immigrant labor, which means ALL of us.

You've got billionair cock still in your face.....take the 0.01%'s dick out of your mouth and try again.

One more reason for skyrocketing grocery prices.

No that's the house of cards collapsing in....the lies, mostly Democrat lies, comming due.

 

[Chernosoth]

Between the ideologies and doctrines of both parties, there is unclaimed ground, the beliefs and opinions of most of the nation. The Pubs made some steps towards that ground with Trump's leadership. The Dems mostly refuse to acknowledge that ground and double down on their own ideology in their echo chambers, like all the blue circle jerk threads here. The first party that tells its ideologues to shut the fuck up and starts listening to what people want gets the votes. Leaving the middle ground unclaimed leaves it wide open for an actual authoritarian movement with leaders who say what the majority wants to hear, like the Fascists and Nazis did a century ago in Europe.

 

[Chadrone]

Between the ideologies and doctrines of both parties, there is unclaimed ground, the beliefs and opinions of most of the nation.

The only problem with that is that they failed.

That's been the "moderate" mindset of the vast majority for decades and it's just not working.

If the moderates had been sucessful at something other than fucking BOTH sides, we wouldn't be in the situation we're in.

The Pubs made some steps towards that ground with Trump's leadership. The Dems mostly refuse to acknowledge that ground and double down on their own ideology in their echo chambers, like all the blue circle jerk threads here.

Yup, and after years and years of that, they've got nothing but fucked for it because the Dems as you point out have no interested in anything other than winning and getting their way. They openly hate anyone not actively supporting them to their faces.

The first party that tells its ideologues to shut the fuck up and starts listening to what people want gets the votes. Leaving the middle ground unclaimed leaves it wide open for an actual authoritarian movement with leaders who say what the majority wants to hear, like the Fascists and Nazis did a century ago in Europe.

Considering the state that Europe is in, it's the middle ground who fucked everything up for EVERYONE over the last 80 years, who needs to shut the fuck up. The lib boomer ideal that we can all sing kumbyah and just get along is fuckin' WRONG.

 

[Chernosoth]

The only problem with that is that they failed.

That's been the "moderate" mindset of the vast majority for decades and it's just not working.

If the moderates had been sucessful at something other than fucking BOTH sides, we wouldn't be in the situation we're in.

It's not all moderate. Some of it would seem very radical, from the perspectives of people who control legacy media, see campaign donations as investments, and profit tremendously from cheap imports and wages kept low with illegal immigration. Some of what people want is completely outside what both parties offered for decades.

Gay marriage legalization, reproductive choice, and keeping men out of women's sports is a middle ground that both parties will probably and eventually accept or lose votes and money.

 

[Wilson23]

Between the ideologies and doctrines of both parties, there is unclaimed ground, the beliefs and opinions of most of the nation. The Pubs made some steps towards that ground with Trump's leadership. The Dems mostly refuse to acknowledge that ground and double down on their own ideology in their echo chambers, like all the blue circle jerk threads here.

The Dems don't HAVE an ideology. Since 1964 the GOP has evolved into an ideological party -- but the Dems remain a coalition of interest groups.

 

[Wilson23]

Considering the state that Europe is in, it's the middle ground who fucked everything up for EVERYONE over the last 80 years, who needs to shut the fuck up. The lib boomer ideal that we can all sing kumbyah and just get along is fuckin' WRONG.

In Europe, if the middle shuts up, that leaves the field to the RW racist-fascists and various communists and socialists. This is an improvement?! It's Germany in the 1920s!