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[BigAndTall]

The other thing we can expect in this second term are scandals. They always seem to pop up as the first-term chickens come home to roost.

The Unwritten Law says that Democratic scandals are always about sex, and Republican scandals are about money. (I noticed that the Governor of NJ who just resigned because of a homosexual affair was a Dem.)

With all the shady stuff we heard about Iraq contracts so far, I'm expecting something along those lines to break in a year or two. Whether they'll change anyone's mind about voting Republican though seens doubtful to me.

---dr.M.

He resigned cause his own party members stopped supportaning him because of he gave a high paying job to someone that was his lover.


That was the scandle as I understand it.

The news papers might have focused on the gay side of it, but he was being investigated not for that but for the quid pro quo.


I doubt Ashcroft gets nominated as he has never held a judgeship (or so I have heard). If he does get nominated, I would not bet on it getting through for as the President doesn't need to worry about reelection, the Senate does.

 

[Pure]

You don't have to be or have been a judge to sit on the Supreme Ct.

 

[Boxlicker101]

You don't have to be or have been a judge to sit on the Supreme Ct.

I believe Earl Warren was never a judge on any court but he became Chief Justice. He had been a AG of California and then ghe gov.

 

[BigAndTall]

You don't have to be or have been a judge to sit on the Supreme Ct.

True. But there are not that many and the last was not a judge was appointed in the 30s I believe. I have a link, but feeling to sleepy to try to find it.

 

[Boxlicker101]

True. But there are not that many and the last was not a judge was appointed in the 30s I believe. I have a link, but feeling to sleepy to try to find it.

There may have been others but Earl Warren, appointed by Ike as Chief Justice in 1953, never served as a judge until then.

 

[Somme]

The Quaint Mr. Gonzales

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/111304A.shtml

 

[BigAndTall]

Re: The Quaint Mr. Gonzales

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/111304A.shtml

Well shit. Did anyone really think that they would like him? Or your saying you would rather Ashcroft back?

Thanks for the correction there Box

 

[rgraham666]

Time to quote Nietzsche again.

Beware when you battle monsters
lest you become a monster.
And as you gaze into the abyss,
the abyss gazes also,
into you.

 

[Somme]

Re: Re: The Quaint Mr. Gonzales

Well shit. Did anyone really think that they would like him? Or your saying you would rather Ashcroft back?

Thanks for the correction there Box

nope.

On a lighter note...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1788845.stm

...or are they pulling our legs?

 

[BlackShanglan]

You don't have to be or have been a judge to sit on the Supreme Ct.

More amusingly still, you don't have to be a priest to elected Pope. Just imagine the options that that lays open.

 

[Edward Teach]

More amusingly still, you don't have to be a priest to elected Pope. Just imagine the options that that lays open.

Dubya?

Asscroft?

 

[cantdog]

Last time they picked up votes at the mid term. I forsee it happening again. The GOP is on a roll. With every liberal columnist telling those who supported Bush how stupid they are, I have the feeling they will turn out in large numbers to turn out some more democrats.

May not happen, I honestly don't even know what seats will be up for grabs or if the numbers are enough to even pose a threat to the filibuster option.

-Colly

Colly's salient point here is the words "telling those who supported Bush how stupid they are."

I can think of few ways to harden someone's position and make them set their heels that would work any better than that. Please, people, use your heads. "God, how could you? God, that's just stupid!" I mean, think about it, think for one minute what effect that kind of talk has on people!

cantdog

 

[cantdog]

I'd like to point out that the time David Crosby got on national TV and offered to personally punch out any Nader supporter had the same effect.

Come to think of it, he was supporting the democratic party, too! Maybe if the party's spokespeople stopped calling everyone else stupid, people would stop thinking they were elitist. Suppose?

 

[cantdog]

Wednesday, November 03, 2004
Four More Years! AKA: Take That, You Sons of Bitches
So, George W. Bush won. And he’s done so by a solid margin. The Democrats’ attempted coup managed to last all of eight hours. Not only is the President the first candidate to win a majority of the vote in a Presidential Election since 1988, but he also won more popular votes than any other candidate in history. The Democrats spent months telling us that high voter turnout would equal a win for them but, as it turns out, when 60% of the electorate showed up at the polls it translated into a Bush lead of nearly four million votes. In short: take that, you sons of bitches.

The Democrats are now talking about how this is a signal that Bush should “bring the country together”. Translated into American, this means “now that you’ve won, you should surrender to us.” The hell with that. We’ve won. Winning means not having to say you’re sorry. Bush already brought a majority of Americans together: they voted for him. He doesn’t need to reach out to them: they need to reach out to him.

If anyone needs to work to “bring the country together” it’s those on the left who have divided it so badly. Those who sought to destroy this great man should get down upon their knees and beg the victors for mercy. And maybe, just maybe, we’ll let a few of them linger on for the simple reason that they amuse us. My life’s goal is to see the Democratic Party virtually obliterated and left as a rump of people like Stephanie Herseth who both mostly agree with us anyways and are easy on the eyes.

That’s the future of the Democratic Party: providing Republicans with a number of cute (but not that bright) comfort women.

Let’s face a hard truth: this was the bitterest Presidential campaign in living memory. The Democrats and their allies staked everything on the defeat of this President. All of the resources they had accumulated over a generation of struggle were thrown into this battle: and they have failed. Despite all of their tricks, despite all of their lies, the people have rejected them. They mean nothing. They are worth nothing. There’s no point in trying to reach out to them because they won’t be reached out to. We’ve got their teeth clutching the sidewalk and out boot above their head. Now’s the time to curb-stomp the bastards.

The first obvious major fight is going to be over the confirmation of the next Chief Justice of the United States and probably a new Associate Justice as well. The reason for saying this should be obvious: William Rehnquist is an ill man and, I think, the obvious candidate to replace him is none other than Clarence Thomas who would be, of course, the first black Chief Justice but who would also, much more importantly, be the most conservative one in living memory. His seat could then be given to another solid conservative and then, once Stevens, Ginsberg, or O’Conner goes, we can get a real conservative majority on the court: and keep it for a decade or more.

It’s worth stepping back to think about the scale of what we have accomplished. We’ve fought back and won against the most destructive attack in the modern history of Presidential campaigns. Despite all of the books, movies, television shows: despite the seeming involvement of all of Hollywood and all of Academia, they lost. They used every trick in the book against us: and they lost. We now control the White House, the House of Representatives, the Senate, and a majority of State Governorships. The Republican Party is now, truly, the majority party in the United States.

This is a mandate. Not only for the President to carry on and win the War on Terrorism, but also to make other needed reforms. To begin: the massive landslides for the eleven state Gay Marriage amendments, even the one in Oregon, show that the Federal Marriage Amendment will carry if it proves to be needed. Better still, with these majorities, the President will have a real shot at enacting some form of entitlement reform in the coming years.

This is a decisive moment in American history. There’s no denying this fact. The nation stood at the crossroads yesterday and the people choose to go the right way. They rejected the Democrat Party and the pernicious things that those people stand for.

Michael Moore and his ilk have been rejected by the people. Treason didn’t carry the day. Forgeries and lies failed to produce the results that they wanted.

It was closer than we’d like, of course. Far too close. I still can’t believe that anyone voted for John Kerry. John Kerry was a personification of everything that’s wrong with the Democrat Party today. A traitor in his youth, he proposed policies of economic division at home and which would have brought military defeat abroad. The once-proud Democratic Party of people like Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, John F. Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson has been reduced to such a level as to become little better than the party of AIDS, abortion, adultery and appeasement.

But, whatever, we won: to hell with the rest of them. Those who didn’t support Bush can go and perform a certain anatomically impossible act. They lost, now they can sit in the back of the bus.

Thank God Almighty.

--Adam Yoshida

 

[rgraham666]

Jesus cant.

That's the scariest thing I've read for quite a while.

 

[Guest]

rg, I'm glad you said it.

I'm still too horrified to come up with an answer.

 

[cantdog]

So you can post the link

Next time some republican smirkingly tells you you're being paranoid

and they're sick of all the hate mail about red states

and you're vindictive and this too shall pass and all the rest of that shit

Show 'em Mr. Yoshida

And realize he isn't alone

And tell them they might have made a tactical error supporting guns

because now we got some

And we aren't likely to stand for it real well if Mr. Yoshida turns out in any way to represent what this Government has in mind for our country.

the people have the right to alter and abolish it

so watch your red asses

 

[cantdog]

Just kidding of course but it might shut them the fuck up for a minute. There are limits to what a horse or an ass will stand, but humans will suffer themselves to be degraded nearly indefinitely. They'll think about that sooner or later and get their confidence back, because they know you're all spineless compromisers without God on your side. Limbaugh said so.

So I counsel calm. Suffer and hunker down and believe them when they say it shall pass. Pendulums, yeah, that's the ticket.

The space frontier is opening again. MWD from orbit. It will give the corporations the planet. Your window of opportunity may be closing even now.

 

[cantdog]

So where were we? Oh, yeah, whether or not there'll be a scandal. Carry on.

 

[cantdog]

Seriously people

Remember the chants at the ball games, the rallies in the parks "USA USA!!"

The flags everywhere and all that?

What will it be like when the next terror attack hits us, as these dicks are making more likely with every move they make? They've been told, and they believe it, that the democrats and the liberals are to blame for any new terror attacks, because George has been resolute, the Leader is Just and Right. He has done His best, but those appeasers have caused us to be struck again.

I would be afraid and ashamed to play with that kind of polittical dynamite, but these are demagogues. They'd just as soon rouse some rabble.

Are you waiting for the broken windows, the word "GAYS" or the word "LIBERALS" painted across the front of your houses and businesses, the way "JUDEN" used to appear in the old days?

Will you wait that long? What will it take to give you the idea?

 

[Boxlicker101]

Re: Seriously people

Remember the chants at the ball games, the rallies in the parks "USA USA!!"

The flags everywhere and all that?

What will it be like when the next terror attack hits us, as these dicks are making more likely with every move they make? They've been told, and they believe it, that the democrats and the liberals are to blame for any new terror attacks, because George has been resolute, the Leader is Just and Right. He has done His best, but those appeasers have caused us to be struck again.

I would be afraid and ashamed to play with that kind of polittical dynamite, but these are demagogues. They'd just as soon rouse some rabble.

Are you waiting for the broken windows, the word "GAYS" or the word "LIBERALS" painted across the front of your houses and businesses, the way "JUDEN" used to appear in the old days?

Will you wait that long? What will it take to give you the idea?

I fly the US flag on national holidays and, when I am watching some kind of international competition, I cheer for the American entry. I think of myself as being patriotic but I don't go overboard about it.

I hope everybody is aware that the 9-11-01 terror attacks, although they happened during the Bush administration, actually started during the Clinton years. That is to say, the planning and the financing and the pilot training started then.

Appeasement is sometimes referred to as "The Salami Game", and once you start appeasing, you are disinclined to stop. It doesn't work because the person or nation or entity you are appeasing keeps demanding more and eventually you are n longer in a position to defend yourself. Better to say "NO" ahead of time.

I certainly don't think LIBERALS will ever suffer persecution the way Jews did in Nazi controlled Europe. After all, I think most persons support part of the liberal agenda and part of the conservative agenda. Personally, I am a great believer in individual liberties and individual responsibility. I don't actually believe that most Americans will allow Gays to be actually persecuted either. Persecution happens and will continue to happen but it is by individual yahoos, not some conspiracy.

 

[cantdog]

I perceived a large difference between flag day and listening to Taps on Memorial Day and the flagwaving panic and huge public rallies chanting "USA" which followed the Twin Towers' fall.

Evidently you missed the distinction.

Clinton had a linked network of national security agencies pursuing Bin Laden and the al Qaeda, as you say, Box. The Bush team dismantled it and were pursuing an attack on Iraq. Richard Clarke's book and also the book by the anonymous CIA man called Imperial Hubris both make that clear.

The "czar" for antiterrorism, the man who was to co-ordinate all efforts against terrorists before 9/11, could not get an interview with the new president or even the VP for many months after the change in leadership, and he was soon dumped. When 9/11 happened, we knew where the al-Qaeda were, but waited months to go there, giving the Saudi friend of the Bush family plenty of warning and all kinds of time to slip out to Pakistan.

Intelligence has since confirmed that.

So yeah. Al Qaeda was a phenomenon which predated Bush and company. They just didn't worry about him, that's all. The Report of the Commission, whitewash though it is in many respects, confirms that.

They continue to ignore him. It's Iraq they wanted all along.

 

[Somme]

shereads, it has begun. Our nightmare descends.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/111604J.shtml

 

[Somme]

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