Noah Plot Bunny?

[ishtat]

genesis ch 9 verses 24- 25

Most Bibles say that Noah cursed the Sons of Canaan (Ham's Kids) to the nth generation because he covered his nakedness when he was drunk? If that seems to be an over reaction maybe the translation of the older Hebrew sources needs consideration. They indicate that Ham castrated his drunken father which does in fact seem to warrant the odd curse or two.

It also stuffs up a lot of plot ideas because whilst castration may be ok in the Bible, Lit. is pretty leary of violence and sex.

 

[StrangeLife]

It has nothing to do with Carbon 14. It has to do with the way the layer cake of earth is stacked and what ain't supposed to be covering the complete earth in a thin layer. Dinosaurs on the bottom side and none above that thin line.

Geology is a bitch to people who want to rewrite the history of the earth. Its set in stone so to speak.

All part of Gods plan. If you can create the entire Universe in six days, putting a few dinos beneath a layer of dirt is childsplay.

But why would he do that? Well, God moves in mysterious ways as you know...

Most Bibles say that Noah cursed the Sons of Canaan (Ham's Kids) to the nth generation because he covered his nakedness when he was drunk? If that seems to be an over reaction maybe the translation of the older Hebrew sources needs consideration. They indicate that Ham castrated his drunken father which does in fact seem to warrant the odd curse or two.

It also stuffs up a lot of plot ideas because whilst castration may be ok in the Bible, Lit. is pretty leary of violence and sex.

I think "castration" was used more broadly in the old days. In this case it might mean "shamed" or "embarrassed"...

 

[sr71plt]

Geology is a bitch to people who want to rewrite the history of the earth. Its set in stone so to speak.

Rewriting history? That wouldn't be Irving Stone by any chance, would it?

 

[Hypoxia]

Wait are we calling him Noe? Is that like a... like a thing?

Look it up.

 

[sr71plt]

But if you're going to bypass the conventional and go for the remote variant, shouldn't it be "Noé"?

 

[Hypoxia]

But if you're going to bypass the conventional and go for the remote variant, shouldn't it be "Noé"?

I used to live on Noe St in Noe Valley in San Francisco. No accent mark. If it's good enough for street signs, it's good enough for me.

 

[patientlee]

Wait are we calling him Noe? Is that like a... like a thing?

On dit "l'Arche de Noé" en français.

 

[StrangeLife]

And for those times when one Noa just isn't enough...

 

[sr71plt]

I used to live on Noe St in Noe Valley in San Francisco. No accent mark. If it's good enough for street signs, it's good enough for me.

You didn't keep it to yourself. You posted it like it was some sort of better version of the convention--and didn't spell it correctly when you did.

Who's to say your street/valley was named for Noah?

 

[StrangeLife]

And we shouldn't forget Noah Cross from Chinatown. A name as holy as it gets - I mean, "Noah" and "Cross."

But in the bedroom he was totally Literotica worthy...

 

[lovecraft68]

, Lit. is pretty leary of violence and sex against men

I just wanted to make this post more accurate.

 

[SecondCircle]

I hadn't meant to start a debate on the spelling or abbreviation of the dude's name. Just didn't know if that's how the hip kids were saying it nowadays.

 

[StrangeLife]

http://vision.1828-dictionary.com/_images/NoahWebster_postage.jpg

 

[sr71plt]

Where's his arc?

 

[StrangeLife]

Where's his arc?

Ask and thou shalt receive...

 

[sr71plt]

Ask and thou shalt receive...

Opps. Should have asked for his ark.

 

[ishtat]

I just wanted to make this post more accurate.

In that case perhaps you might consider doing so in your own words, rather than by amending mine to suit your own opinion.

 

[carlieplum]

Yes you did.

But I've seen other threads where people start getting offended because they drink this Kool Aid.

Whatever gets them through the night I suppose.

If I had to guess I would say he was screwing his family.

Why? Just keeping an air of realism. The Bible denounced homosexuality and also mentions it being a sin for man to lie with beasts.

I do not recall a verse saying not to lie with his sister/daughter etc...

So in keeping with good old biblical faith I guess he would diddle the kids.

I mean hey, the priests still do it now.

Leviticus 18 forbids plenty of relationships including siblings. Traditional Biblical scholarship extends the list out by inference to include children, since grandchildren are off-limits, as are parents.

TxRad, plenty of people who have the Bible as their foundational document don't accept that the first seven "days" of creation are 24-hour periods. In my religious tradition, on of our most respected Biblical commentators says that to understand the creation story (and which one, by the way, because there are two in Genesis) as literal truth is heresy.

And in general, I think treating religious people is as ridiculous, stupid, and backward is as ignorant as this asshat preacher Hagee who wants to throw all the atheists out of 'Murica.

 

[ishtat]

Leviticus 18 forbids plenty of relationships including siblings. Traditional Biblical scholarship extends the list out by inference to include children, since grandchildren are off-limits, as are parents.

Yet Abram married his half sister Sarah, Rachel married her brother in law Jacob, Lot impregnated his daughters, just to mention some of the more obvious examples.

The main exclusion in the bible has nothing to do with biological relationships.
People of other tribes and races, foreigners, and believers in other Gods were considered far less favourably as marriage partners - at least by the priesthood.

Much of Leviticus is much younger than the older stories in the old testament and represents the view of the later clergy (priesthood) and the ruling elite which did not exist in the earlier days.

As late as the return from the exile in about 437 BC Ezra and Nehemiah were still in a rage about the marriage customs of the common people. This was 250 years after the supposed reforms of King Josiah.

 

[StrangeLife]

Yet Abram married his half sister Sarah, Rachel married her brother in law Jacob, Lot impregnated his daughters, just to mention some of the more obvious examples...

Plot-bunnies galore

 

[Hypoxia]

Plot-bunnies galore

Biblical texts are just loaded with BDSM, incest, noncon, Loving Wife and fantasy tropes. How about Eve and the angel's 'serpent'? We can do some interpolation too, like covering Yeshua's lost years in a male brothel in Athens. OK gals and guys, start writing.

 

[oggbashan]

Why didn't you ask me?

After all, I was riding on the roof of the Ark, the sole survivor of the antediluvial Giants.

 

[JKendallDane]

Biblical texts are just loaded with BDSM, incest, noncon, Loving Wife and fantasy tropes. How about Eve and the angel's 'serpent'? We can do some interpolation too, like covering Yeshua's lost years in a male brothel in Athens. OK gals and guys, start writing.

Add to that list a pre-made outline/rough draft for GM with 1st Samuel 18 through the first chapter of 2nd Samuel. Even comes with a perfect ending line from future King David:

"I grieve for you, Jonathan my brother; you were very dear to me. Your love for me was wonderful, more wonderful than that of women." (2 Samuel 1:26 NIV)

It's a story you won't find being repeated from many pulpits or discussed in Bible study groups.