No Constitutional Support for Presidential War Making Powers of Any Kind...

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...ie: the Constitution does not grant the President any power at all in initiating offensive military action of any kind.

During the Federal Convention in Philadelphia during the spring and summer of 1787, South Carolina delegate Pierce Butler - according to Madison in his Notes - "was for vesting the power in the President, who will have all the requisite qualities, and will not make war but when the nation will support it"...

...but Butler's motion couldn't even attract a second.

Because the great majority of the framers made it crystal clear that while it should be naturally expected that any President would react defensively - without Congress' approval first - if/when America was attacked...

...the President had no constitutional power in waging war at all. In fact, the Chief Executive's only constitutional power concerning war is that s/he will be Commander-in-Chief of America's entire war effort(s) - but only after Congress declares war itself.

And further, in constitutional fact, the President is allowed power in only two instances as far as foreign affairs are concerned: 1) the above mentioned commander-in-chief of US armed forces after war has been declared by Congress, and 2) the President has the constitutional power to receive ambassadors - that's friggin' it.

Congress, on the other hand, was clearly delegated the superior role concerning foreign affairs, as constitutionally they are charged “to regulate Commerce with foreign Nations,” “to raise and support Armies,” to “grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal,” to “provide for the common Defense,” and, what the framers felt to be the mother of all powers, “to declare War.”

Madison wrote to Jefferson (who was serving in France during the Convention):

The constitution supposes, what the History of all Governments demonstrates, that the Executive is the branch of power most interested in war, and most prone to it. It has accordingly with studied care vested the question of war in the Legislature.

Madison even proposed excluding the President from the negotiation of peace treaties, on the grounds that he might obstruct a settlement out of a desire to derive
power and importance from a state of war.

During the Pennsylvania Ratifying Convention, Constitution Convention delegate James Wilson said:

This system will not hurry us into war; it is calculated to guard against it. It will not be in the power of a single man, or a single body of men, to involve us in such distress; for the important power of declaring war is vested in the legislature at large: this declaration must be made with the concurrence of the House of Representatives: from this circumstance we may draw a certain conclusion that nothing but our interest can draw us into war.

Alexander Hamilton made the distinction even more clear in Federalist 69, asserting that the President's authority:

...would be nominally the same with that of the King of Great Britain, but in substance much inferior to it. It would amount to nothing more than the supreme command and direction of the military and naval forces, as first general and admiral of the confederacy; while that of the British king extends to the declaring of war, and to the raising and regulating of fleets and armies; all which by the constitution under consideration would appertain to the Legislature.

America's first commander-in-chief put it this way:

The Constitution vests the power of declaring war with Congress, therefore no offensive expedition of importance can be undertaken until after they have deliberated upon the subject, and authorized such a measure.

Jefferson's Barbary actions are often cited as "evidence" that presidents are justified in initiating military action without Congressional approval...

...but Congress had dictated before Jefferson took office that the ships he eventually sent to meet the pasha “shall be officered and manned as the President of the United States may direct.” It was to this instruction and authority that Jefferson appealed when he ordered American ships to the Mediterranean. In the event of a declaration of war on the United States by the Barbary powers, these ships were to “protect our commerce & chastise their insolence – by sinking, burning or destroying their ships & Vessels wherever you shall find them.”

The pasha declared war on America soon after and Jefferson sent more military might his way, all the while insisting that he was "unauthorized by the Constitution, without the sanction of Congress, to go beyond the line of defense”; and that Congress alone could authorize “measures of offense also.” He then told Congress:

I communicate [to you] all material information on this subject, that in the exercise of this important function confided by the Constitution to the Legislature exclusively their judgment may form itself on a knowledge and consideration of every circumstance of weight.

In at least ten statutes during that period, Congress explicitly authorized military action by Presidents Jefferson and Madison. Congress passed legislation in 1802 to authorize the President to equip armed vessels to protect commerce and seamen in the Atlantic, the Mediterranean, and adjoining seas. The statute authorized American ships to seize vessels belonging to the Bey of Tripoli, with the captured property distributed to those who brought the vessels into port. Additional legislation in 1804 gave explicit support for ‘warlike operations against the regency of Tripoli, or any other of the Barbary powers."

In 1805, Jefferson told Congress that Spain appeared to have an...

...intention to advance on our possessions until they shall be repressed by an opposing force. Considering that Congress alone is constitutionally invested with the power of changing our condition from peace to war, I have thought it my duty to await their authority for using force…. But the course to be pursued will require the command of means which it belongs to Congress exclusively to yield or to deny. To them I communicate every fact material for their information and the documents necessary to enable them to judge for themselves. To their wisdom, then, I look for the course I am to pursue, and will pursue with sincere zeal that which they shall approve.”

In 1800, Supreme Court Justice Samuel Chase summed up the reigning doctrine:

Congress is empowered to declare a general war, or congress may wage a limited war; limited in place, in objects and in time.

Do you understand yet that it is Congress - and Congress alone - who is constitutionally allowed to involve America in any offensive military action at all - no matter its scope or purpose?

No?

Well, then...

...how 'bout the earliest instance of a unanimous Supreme Court ruling against a President's unconstitutional directive?

The 1804 case of Little v. Barreme involved a ship commander who, during the Quasi War with France in the late 1790s, had seized a ship that he thought was illegally trading with France. The commander was following a directive from President John Adams in seizing this ship, which had been coming from France. But Congress had authorized President Adams only to seize ships going to France; in short, the president’s directive ventured beyond what congress had called for in this limited war. The Court declared that the commander was liable for damages even though he had acted in accordance with a presidential directive. No such presidential directive could override the authority of Congress, said the Court.

And in 1801, the Supreme's first Chief Justice, in Talbot vs. Seeman, wrote this:

The whole powers of war being by the Constitution of the United States vested in Congress, the acts of that body can alone be resorted to as our guides in this inquiry. It is not denied, nor in the course of the argument has it been denied, that Congress may authorize general hostilities, in which case the general laws of war apply to our situation, or partial hostilities, in which case the laws of war, so far as they actually apply to our situation, must be noticed.

I stand fast waiting for any one to furnish any Constitution-related cite contradicting my primary claim here that no President of the United States of America has any constitutional authority to initiate military action in any way, shape, or form...

...without the specific, constitutional authorization of Congress first.
 
The line has been drawn in the sand at the beach, hopefully, the tide won't come in.
 
Nice job with the constitutional citations and historical perspective.

It's pretty clear from your citing these relative to Obama that you are a racist.
 
Nice job with the constitutional citations and historical perspective.

It's pretty clear from your citing these relative to Obama that you are a racist.

Only against the white, war-mongering half of him...
 
It sucks when you agree with someone on principle...

...but you just know their actual motivation is much more Machiavellian (although Orwellian probably fits better here):

Good afternoon, everybody. Ten days ago, the world watched in horror as men, women and children were massacred in Syria in the worst chemical weapons attack of the 21st century. Yesterday the United States presented a powerful case that the Syrian government was responsible for this attack on its own people.

Our intelligence shows the Assad regime and its forces preparing to use chemical weapons, launching rockets in the highly populated suburbs of Damascus, and acknowledging that a chemical weapons attack took place. And all of this corroborates what the world can plainly see — hospitals overflowing with victims; terrible images of the dead. All told, well over 1,000 people were murdered. Several hundred of them were children — young girls and boys gassed to death by their own government.

NPR Special Coverage Of Obama's Remarks

This attack is an assault on human dignity. It also presents a serious danger to our national security. It risks making a mockery of the global prohibition on the use of chemical weapons. It endangers our friends and our partners along Syria's borders, including Israel, Jordan, Turkey, Lebanon and Iraq. It could lead to escalating use of chemical weapons, or their proliferation to terrorist groups who would do our people harm.

In a world with many dangers, this menace must be confronted.

Now, after careful deliberation, I have decided that the United States should take military action against Syrian regime targets. This would not be an open-ended intervention. We would not put boots on the ground. Instead, our action would be designed to be limited in duration and scope. But I'm confident we can hold the Assad regime accountable for their use of chemical weapons, deter this kind of behavior, and degrade their capacity to carry it out.

Our military has positioned assets in the region. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs has informed me that we are prepared to strike whenever we choose. Moreover, the Chairman has indicated to me that our capacity to execute this mission is not time-sensitive; it will be effective tomorrow, or next week, or one month from now. And I'm prepared to give that order.

But having made my decision as Commander-in-Chief based on what I am convinced is our national security interests, I'm also mindful that I'm the President of the world's oldest constitutional democracy. I've long believed that our power is rooted not just in our military might, but in our example as a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. And that's why I've made a second decision: I will seek authorization for the use of force from the American people's representatives in Congress.

Over the last several days, we've heard from members of Congress who want their voices to be heard. I absolutely agree. So this morning, I spoke with all four congressional leaders, and they've agreed to schedule a debate and then a vote as soon as Congress comes back into session.

In the coming days, my administration stands ready to provide every member with the information they need to understand what happened in Syria and why it has such profound implications for America's national security. And all of us should be accountable as we move forward, and that can only be accomplished with a vote.

I'm confident in the case our government has made without waiting for U.N. inspectors. I'm comfortable going forward without the approval of a United Nations Security Council that, so far, has been completely paralyzed and unwilling to hold Assad accountable. As a consequence, many people have advised against taking this decision to Congress, and undoubtedly, they were impacted by what we saw happen in the United Kingdom this week when the Parliament of our closest ally failed to pass a resolution with a similar goal, even as the Prime Minister supported taking action.

Yet, while I believe I have the authority to carry out this military action without specific congressional authorization, I know that the country will be stronger if we take this course, and our actions will be even more effective. We should have this debate, because the issues are too big for business as usual. And this morning, John Boehner, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell agreed that this is the right thing to do for our democracy.

A country faces few decisions as grave as using military force, even when that force is limited. I respect the views of those who call for caution, particularly as our country emerges from a time of war that I was elected in part to end. But if we really do want to turn away from taking appropriate action in the face of such an unspeakable outrage, then we just acknowledge the costs of doing nothing.

Here's my question for every member of Congress and every member of the global community: What message will we send if a dictator can gas hundreds of children to death in plain sight and pay no price? What's the purpose of the international system that we've built if a prohibition on the use of chemical weapons that has been agreed to by the governments of 98 percent of the world's people and approved overwhelmingly by the Congress of the United States is not enforced?

Make no mistake — this has implications beyond chemical warfare. If we won't enforce accountability in the face of this heinous act, what does it say about our resolve to stand up to others who flout fundamental international rules? To governments who would choose to build nuclear arms? To terrorist who would spread biological weapons? To armies who carry out genocide?

We cannot raise our children in a world where we will not follow through on the things we say, the accords we sign, the values that define us.

So just as I will take this case to Congress, I will also deliver this message to the world. While the U.N. investigation has some time to report on its findings, we will insist that an atrocity committed with chemical weapons is not simply investigated, it must be confronted.

I don't expect every nation to agree with the decision we have made. Privately we've heard many expressions of support from our friends. But I will ask those who care about the writ of the international community to stand publicly behind our action.

And finally, let me say this to the American people: I know well that we are weary of war. We've ended one war in Iraq. We're ending another in Afghanistan. And the American people have the good sense to know we cannot resolve the underlying conflict in Syria with our military. In that part of the world, there are ancient sectarian differences, and the hopes of the Arab Spring have unleashed forces of change that are going to take many years to resolve. And that's why we're not contemplating putting our troops in the middle of someone else's war.

Instead, we'll continue to support the Syrian people through our pressure on the Assad regime, our commitment to the opposition, our care for the displaced, and our pursuit of a political resolution that achieves a government that respects the dignity of its people.

But we are the United States of America, and we cannot and must not turn a blind eye to what happened in Damascus. Out of the ashes of world war, we built an international order and enforced the rules that gave it meaning. And we did so because we believe that the rights of individuals to live in peace and dignity depends on the responsibilities of nations. We aren't perfect, but this nation more than any other has been willing to meet those responsibilities.

So to all members of Congress of both parties, I ask you to take this vote for our national security. I am looking forward to the debate. And in doing so, I ask you, members of Congress, to consider that some things are more important than partisan differences or the politics of the moment.

Ultimately, this is not about who occupies this office at any given time; it's about who we are as a country. I believe that the people's representatives must be invested in what America does abroad, and now is the time to show the world that America keeps our commitments. We do what we say. And we lead with the belief that right makes might — not the other way around.

We all know there are no easy options. But I wasn't elected to avoid hard decisions. And neither were the members of the House and the Senate. I've told you what I believe, that our security and our values demand that we cannot turn away from the massacre of countless civilians with chemical weapons. And our democracy is stronger when the President and the people's representatives stand together.

I'm ready to act in the face of this outrage. Today I'm asking Congress to send a message to the world that we are ready to move forward together as one nation.

Thanks very much.

...I'm also mindful that I'm the President of the world's oldest constitutional democracy.

On the outside, a great constitutional move going to Congress for authorization...

...but brought immediately into question by his usual (and I believe intentional) statist misuse of "democracy" - especially in that particular reference.

Those who constituted the fact that all American presidents MUST get Congressional authorization for any/all offensive military use...

...would no doubt be aghast at the 44th's socialist disregard of the fact that the United States of America was constituted as a constitutional republic, and that the framers specifically did so to block a "democracy" from forming.

Tsk, tsk, tsk, Mr. President: you're supposed to be a constitutional scholar, and I have no doubt you are learned on the subject...

...which just makes your disingenuousness that more transparent.

And this morning, John Boehner, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell agreed that this is the right thing to do for our democracy.

That would be "our republic", Mr. President...

And our democracy is stronger when the President and the people's representatives stand together.

Bullcrap, Mr. President...

...a "democracy", properly used, would end the sentence thusly:

..."is stronger when the President and the people stand together."

But, as "the people's representatives" are used in the sentence, and "people's representatives" are what makes America a republic and not a democracy (there are no representatives in a democracy)...

...the sentence should correctly read:

And our republic is stronger when the President and the people's representatives stand together.

Friggin' socialists...
 
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