Laurel
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New Ask Aspasia & Fern Column Posted
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KillerMuffin
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No 'fense, Laurel. They suck.
This might just be hostile adreneline overrun for a round of pure Sparky stupidity, but hey. They suck.
They're doing some kind of Howard Stern thing and that only works for Howard Stern. They're straight sugar-coated mean and that's their gimmick. Take away the gimmick and there should be some substance, but there doesn't appear to be any.
This is taken directly from the first paragraph. "Sweetie… First, if you want to find the 'clitoris', you have to GOT learn to SPELL 'Clitoris'!"
They bitch about him not being able to spell clitoris and they have the absolute worst grammar while doing it. Who wants advice from a hypocrite?
And what is up with all the damned dots? And the constant sweethearts and honeys? And the constant capitalizations for emphasis?
I love this one. Butthead would be more apropos, but who's judging. I think someone's been lounging on the pleather couch and watching too much Jerry Springer… Has this same someone also been living on wheels for too long? How much Spam is in your diet? Do you have teeth?
Nothing quite like opening a round of advice with a stereotype guaranteed to offend someone. I'm offended. These people are representatives of literotica. These representatives just propogated the stereotype that persons who like incest share these traits. I'm sorry. I abhor incest. My home has wheels and Jerry Springer is the only talk show host I ever watch on the occasion that I do. Some member of the house like Spam and the average age of dentures in the family seems to be about 40. So does Literotica also believe that I want to fuck my family members as well? I know you don't, Laurel, but these persons think that I do.
Bad grammar coupled with poor advice and a series of over-used gimmicks is extremely shoddy and in bad taste. I'm not stupid and neither are most of the people who come to Literotica. These two persons seem to think we are. I'll stick with Dear Prudie and Ask Rhona.
But that's just one Muffin's admittedly not complimentary opinion. One does wonder how fast they'll run to my profile and run my stories down to get back at me. Yeah, I have that high of an opinion about them.
Kiss up bit: I don't like Asp and Phytozome, but I do adore Literotica and Laurel. I think they're both wonderful.
This might just be hostile adreneline overrun for a round of pure Sparky stupidity, but hey. They suck.
They're doing some kind of Howard Stern thing and that only works for Howard Stern. They're straight sugar-coated mean and that's their gimmick. Take away the gimmick and there should be some substance, but there doesn't appear to be any.
This is taken directly from the first paragraph. "Sweetie… First, if you want to find the 'clitoris', you have to GOT learn to SPELL 'Clitoris'!"
They bitch about him not being able to spell clitoris and they have the absolute worst grammar while doing it. Who wants advice from a hypocrite?
And what is up with all the damned dots? And the constant sweethearts and honeys? And the constant capitalizations for emphasis?
I love this one. Butthead would be more apropos, but who's judging. I think someone's been lounging on the pleather couch and watching too much Jerry Springer… Has this same someone also been living on wheels for too long? How much Spam is in your diet? Do you have teeth?
Nothing quite like opening a round of advice with a stereotype guaranteed to offend someone. I'm offended. These people are representatives of literotica. These representatives just propogated the stereotype that persons who like incest share these traits. I'm sorry. I abhor incest. My home has wheels and Jerry Springer is the only talk show host I ever watch on the occasion that I do. Some member of the house like Spam and the average age of dentures in the family seems to be about 40. So does Literotica also believe that I want to fuck my family members as well? I know you don't, Laurel, but these persons think that I do.
Bad grammar coupled with poor advice and a series of over-used gimmicks is extremely shoddy and in bad taste. I'm not stupid and neither are most of the people who come to Literotica. These two persons seem to think we are. I'll stick with Dear Prudie and Ask Rhona.
But that's just one Muffin's admittedly not complimentary opinion. One does wonder how fast they'll run to my profile and run my stories down to get back at me. Yeah, I have that high of an opinion about them.
Kiss up bit: I don't like Asp and Phytozome, but I do adore Literotica and Laurel. I think they're both wonderful.
Laurel
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KM - Thanks for your critique of the column. I will forward it along to the authors on the off chance that they're not following this thread on the forum. The authors of the column do not "represent" the opinions of Literotica any more or less than any of the other authors that we are lucky enough to publish. Some day in the future I would love to have a variety of advice columnists - some serious, some humorous, and a few somewhere in between. For the time being, they are the only ones who have been serious enough about it to follow through.
About a year ago now (maybe longer), there was a popular board personality who we had offered this idea to, but she couldn't fit it into her schedule at the time. I can only imagine how many people would have been offended by what SHE had to say...
Wait till I launch MY new "Ask Laurel" column. It's got a hip new gimmick - I take people's complex, life-changing sexual problems, and I solve them exclusively using yes or no answers.
As always, Laurel & Literotica loves you too.
About a year ago now (maybe longer), there was a popular board personality who we had offered this idea to, but she couldn't fit it into her schedule at the time. I can only imagine how many people would have been offended by what SHE had to say...
Wait till I launch MY new "Ask Laurel" column. It's got a hip new gimmick - I take people's complex, life-changing sexual problems, and I solve them exclusively using yes or no answers.
As always, Laurel & Literotica loves you too.
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Whoooohooooooo!!!!!! I can hardly wait. Do you do that sexy little purr when you answer? Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-yow!
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I was ready to dismiss Muff's complaints, i really was. I thought, "Well, that girl is in a mood, isn't she? Taking it out on Laurel's pet advice-givers, too, she is."
However, being one to check out this kinda stuff myself and not take other people's word for it, i followed your link to Ask Aspasia & Fern. There, i read the questions/answers (with dawning dismay) all the way down to the question so prosaically entitled Question. Let me refresh your memory of this one:
Subject: question
I have had a long-term girlfriend and am not turned on by men, but I enjoy the sensation of my girl using a lubricated finger or beads. Does this mean I am more effeminate than the average male and what are the statistics, if any, on such behavior?
Dearest Question: Looks like we've got a ravenous bottom on our hands, haven't we? I'd postpone the, "Oh, my god, I'm gay, how am I going to tell my parents" conversation for when you segue into a 10 inch cock up your ass.
Laurel? The answers to the other questions were bad. Your Q&A person, whomever s/he may be is unkind and flip. Not funny. However, the answer to this question is an affront to real bdsm bottoms, as well you know. We have to dodge enough shit coming to us, we who are lifestylers, without doing it at Lit, in the guise of "funny".
It wasn't funny. The tone of the whole column is way more mean than funny, if you want my opinion (which you don't, i'm sure). Why not answer people's questions honestly and forthrightly if you gotta have an Q&A column? Why do this kind of mean-spirited thing here at Lit? It just doesn't fit the Lit i know.
I'm not going back for any more read-through's and i'm sorry this is a part of Lit.
You, however, Laurel, are still wonderful. It's good to know you're human like the rest of us, though, and subject to farting in public on occasion (cuz this column is a big ole public fart).
However, being one to check out this kinda stuff myself and not take other people's word for it, i followed your link to Ask Aspasia & Fern. There, i read the questions/answers (with dawning dismay) all the way down to the question so prosaically entitled Question. Let me refresh your memory of this one:
Subject: question
I have had a long-term girlfriend and am not turned on by men, but I enjoy the sensation of my girl using a lubricated finger or beads. Does this mean I am more effeminate than the average male and what are the statistics, if any, on such behavior?
Dearest Question: Looks like we've got a ravenous bottom on our hands, haven't we? I'd postpone the, "Oh, my god, I'm gay, how am I going to tell my parents" conversation for when you segue into a 10 inch cock up your ass.
Laurel? The answers to the other questions were bad. Your Q&A person, whomever s/he may be is unkind and flip. Not funny. However, the answer to this question is an affront to real bdsm bottoms, as well you know. We have to dodge enough shit coming to us, we who are lifestylers, without doing it at Lit, in the guise of "funny".
It wasn't funny. The tone of the whole column is way more mean than funny, if you want my opinion (which you don't, i'm sure). Why not answer people's questions honestly and forthrightly if you gotta have an Q&A column? Why do this kind of mean-spirited thing here at Lit? It just doesn't fit the Lit i know.
I'm not going back for any more read-through's and i'm sorry this is a part of Lit.
You, however, Laurel, are still wonderful. It's good to know you're human like the rest of us, though, and subject to farting in public on occasion (cuz this column is a big ole public fart).
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Whatever happened to Deborah?
Laurel said:About a year ago now (maybe longer), there was a popular board personality who we had offered this idea to, but she couldn't fit it into her schedule at the time. I can only imagine how many people would have been offended by what SHE had to say...
Whatever happened to Deborah?
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Hi cymbidia!
Thanks for your comments! There are multiple definitions of the word "bottom". I can almost guarantee that the authors meant "bottom" as in "butt", "ass", or "booty". The vast majority of the population does not know that "bottom" has a special connotation in the BDSM lifestyle. Long before I knew that, I was getting spanked on my bottom and even sitting on my bottom every now and then.
As far as the rest of your feedback, as I told the Muffinster, we publish a wide variety of authors. Just because we choose to publish them does not necessarily mean they all represent our personal opinions or values. If the litmus test of getting published here was representing Laurel's personal opinion, then this would be a pretty droll site. It's people like you and KM and UncleBill and Weird Harold and all of the other Mouseketeers that make this site as interesting and eclectic as it is.
I will definitely forward your feedback to the authors for their consideration.
Thanks for your comments! There are multiple definitions of the word "bottom". I can almost guarantee that the authors meant "bottom" as in "butt", "ass", or "booty". The vast majority of the population does not know that "bottom" has a special connotation in the BDSM lifestyle. Long before I knew that, I was getting spanked on my bottom and even sitting on my bottom every now and then.
As far as the rest of your feedback, as I told the Muffinster, we publish a wide variety of authors. Just because we choose to publish them does not necessarily mean they all represent our personal opinions or values. If the litmus test of getting published here was representing Laurel's personal opinion, then this would be a pretty droll site. It's people like you and KM and UncleBill and Weird Harold and all of the other Mouseketeers that make this site as interesting and eclectic as it is.
I will definitely forward your feedback to the authors for their consideration.
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Well, now. THAT explains Cym's comments. I read that answer 3 or 4 times and couldn't see what she was upset about. But then, I was reading "bottom" as meaning "ass." You're correct, it never crossed my mind that it could mean anything else. Even at Lit, I'll bet I'm in the majority on that one.Laurel said:Thanks for your comments! There are multiple definitions of the word "bottom". I can almost guarantee that the authors meant "bottom" as in "butt", "ass", or "booty". The vast majority of the population does not know that "bottom" has a special connotation in the BDSM lifestyle. Long before I knew that, I was getting spanked on my bottom and even sitting on my bottom every now and then.
I have to admit, I didn't go read the rest of the link based on the poor reviews it has gotten so far.
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I read the column...
I read the 17ths column....... and I have to admit that I agree with the above people. When you go somewhere for advice....you don't want to be insulted. You want someone to handle your problem in an adult and unbiased way.
Some of the comments were extremely harsh and while I understand that some comments were meant to be taken lightly..... it still came across poorly.
Just my opinion on it.
I read the 17ths column....... and I have to admit that I agree with the above people. When you go somewhere for advice....you don't want to be insulted. You want someone to handle your problem in an adult and unbiased way.
Some of the comments were extremely harsh and while I understand that some comments were meant to be taken lightly..... it still came across poorly.
Just my opinion on it.
I think the idea is great. You are actually offering something very valuable to folks. If I were a bit timid the tone of the answers would frighten me. People who take the time to write and ask do not want to be made to feel foolish. They want answers not to be the butt (haha) of the joke. I think that Fern and Aspasia are great they just need to be a bit more gentle.
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killer muffin , you confused me here, are you telling the world you are" trailer trash"?
sorry i got confused , anyway what is wrong with spam ?
if it wasnt for that stuff i would have no emails to read .
bottom , that is an english comedy starring rik mayall and ade edmonsen
do they have special hairdresser qualifications to cut a mullet correctly?
should i have posted this on the Q & A board?
confused here someone help me out ?
not even sure where i came in
sorry i got confused , anyway what is wrong with spam ?
if it wasnt for that stuff i would have no emails to read .
bottom , that is an english comedy starring rik mayall and ade edmonsen
do they have special hairdresser qualifications to cut a mullet correctly?
should i have posted this on the Q & A board?
confused here someone help me out ?
not even sure where i came in
KillerMuffin
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killer muffin , you confused me here, are you telling the world you are" trailer trash"?
Nope. I'm not trailer trash, I don't behave that way. Not all persons who eat Spam (see Spam's homepage), live on wheels, have huge hulking semi-rusted trucks that don't always work are trailer trash. Some of us have morals, decency, intellect, and education. We just chose to live in a mobile home in Kansas. Call it tempting fate.
sorry i got confused , anyway what is wrong with spam ?
if it wasnt for that stuff i would have no emails to read .
See Spam's homepage
bottom , that is an english comedy starring rik mayall and ade edmonsen
do they have special hairdresser qualifications to cut a mullet correctly?
What's a mullet?
should i have posted this on the Q & A board?
confused here someone help me out ?
not even sure where i came in
You came in for the free ass shot. So take off those pants and take a pic and post it for us.
*whispers to Laurel* Is he falling for it?
Nope. I'm not trailer trash, I don't behave that way. Not all persons who eat Spam (see Spam's homepage), live on wheels, have huge hulking semi-rusted trucks that don't always work are trailer trash. Some of us have morals, decency, intellect, and education. We just chose to live in a mobile home in Kansas. Call it tempting fate.
sorry i got confused , anyway what is wrong with spam ?
if it wasnt for that stuff i would have no emails to read .
See Spam's homepage
bottom , that is an english comedy starring rik mayall and ade edmonsen
do they have special hairdresser qualifications to cut a mullet correctly?
What's a mullet?
should i have posted this on the Q & A board?
confused here someone help me out ?
not even sure where i came in
You came in for the free ass shot. So take off those pants and take a pic and post it for us.
*whispers to Laurel* Is he falling for it?
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Angel - (laughing) so did I.
I didn't bother reading the second installment of this advice column because I thought it sounded contrived. I wasn't really put off by the harsh comments, because like Angel I thought that was the purpose. I didn't find it entertaining though, so I won't read it anymore.
I didn't bother reading the second installment of this advice column because I thought it sounded contrived. I wasn't really put off by the harsh comments, because like Angel I thought that was the purpose. I didn't find it entertaining though, so I won't read it anymore.
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