My therapist thinks am twsited & perverted for having INCEST fantasies, I feel crappy

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My therapist thinks am twsited & perverted for having INCEST fantasies, I feel crappy

I am writing this because as new member I know that Literotic is a safe and mature place to explore and enjoy a variety of sexual fantasies. Also it seems to me that the owners and moderators of this site are progressive enough that they have created a forum where adult folk can read and write about their incest role play scenarios.

I just wanted to get this off my chest because my self esteem has gone rock bottom since I met with my therapist this week and I told her about my incest fantasies. She showed no compassion and actually made me feel like I was on my own with this one after referring to my sexuality as a "twisted" and "perverted" one. Now, I know some folks here might take the "twisted" and "perverted" designation as a compliment or a badge of honor (in a light hearted sort of humorous way), but her diagnosis of me was cold and lacking in any understanding or empathy.

She wasn't too pleased when I told her about my fantasies. She actually became quite moralistic about it, a bit judgmental, and it was odd because in the past she seemed very liberal with issues pertaining to homosexuality, abortion, birth control, and sex. She was more interested in doping me up with medications (which I don’t need) than to explore where these fantasies have arisen from. Her response was odd because it came from an individual that is not religious in any manner, and is most likely an atheist because of her Freudian psychiatric background, and the almost ridicule she places on religious, spiritual, superstitious, and esoteric issues which I bring up from time to time.

What gets me is that in our culture the therapeutic, medical, educational, and sexology establishment has been telling us, for about forty years now, since the onset of the sexual revolution, that varied erotic fantasies are not bad, that they can be healthy, and if done in a manner where laws are not broken, or no one is mentally or physically hurt can actually benefit relationships (if the other partner is in accordance) and can actually enhance an adult individual's sexuality. A great example of this progressive philosophy in action is an institution like Literotica which I think provides an incredible public service for responsible adults to express themselves.

But where am confused at her negative prognosis is that during my many sessions with her I always stressed that my incest fantasies where just that - “fantasies” plain and simple. A little about myself and my sexual likes relating to incest: I like tame incest fantasies, I like to role play them (with my self for now - I have never done it with a partner because my wife doesn‘t understand). I don’t partake in incest fantasies that are rough, BDSM oriented, no one gets raped, tied up, or forced to do anything, I only fantasize about people who are over 18 or 21, and that are in a very consensual loving and nurturing scenario. To make it even more clear, (and I have explained this to the doctor many times) my incest fantasies are symbolic in nature. They involved idealized and symbolic mothers, sons, dad, and daughters. They don’t involve my real family members - yikes and eeeccchhh!!! I don’t find my parents, siblings, cousins, aunts, uncles, etc. sexually arousing at all. Actually to think of them in sexually incest related ways is quite the turn off, or “wood” killer, if you catch my drift! I like to make people up, or I fantasize about other real families that I know about, either next door neighbors or celebrities. I would not mind hearing about other people and their real life very consensual responsible situations - but only if they don’t involve sexual and mental abuse, and am not interested in anyway in anyone who is, or was underage. Heck, I don’t even have the desire to fantasize about my in own laws, or my own offspring, when, and if I do have kids.

In closing, I was never abused sexually as a child, my parents did not practice incest, and I really feel sorry, with all my heart, for survivors of real life incest and sexual abuse.

The way I came to enjoy incest as a fantasy was actually quite simple and harmless. It happened when I was in high school or college. A buddy of mine had a video of the classic American porn movie “Taboo”. In it, vintage porn star Kay Parker, I think it was, seduced her grown up son. I thought that was hot, and there is where my turn on for this subject started.

So in closing, am I a sick dude for having an interest in fantasy oriented incest, and is it twisted and perverted?

Are there support groups for people who think like me?

Thanks for listening to me - I am getting another therapist.
 
gaaaah. I'm so torn. I came in here ready to give the usual GB bullshit to the newb, but I can't bring myself to do it.

you're normal. not weird. not fucked up. your therapist is an idiot. good to hear you're finding a new one.

you seem to have appropriate, healthy boundaries that keep your fantasies what they should be.

damn. can't find even a bit of snark to throw in.
 
Duh, it's called Taboo fantasy.

Personally, I don't see the point, and I think it could be harmful in the sense of mental desensitation.

In other words, needeing more and more "oh I'm so naughty" brain chemical rushes.

But, there is also an infamous tutorial about screwing dolphins that has been all over the internet , as well. It's words on a screen, nothing more. And people have to choose to read it.
 
Duh, it's called Taboo fantasy.

Personally, I don't see the point, and I think it could be harmful in the sense of mental desensitation.

In other words, needeing more and more "oh I'm so naughty" brain chemical rushes.

Good reason to stick with the sick therapist.
I'm all over that.

Is it covered? You're not paying, right?
 
So in closing, am I a sick dude for having an interest in fantasy oriented incest, and is it twisted and perverted?

Are there support groups for people who think like me?

Thanks for listening to me - I am getting another therapist.

I don't think you're sick. Incest is not my thing, but the fantasies you've described seem pretty harmless.

Even if you were sick, I'm shocked that a professional would label you like that. I'm not sure if you brought up the fantasies with her because you'd like them to stop or if you just wanted to talk about them and get some reassurance. Either way, it's unhelpful to send a patient away in shame if for no other reason than, as you've mentioned, you won't return.

I think you're smart to get another therapist. And actually, from some of the other things you said about her, she doesn't sound like she was that good before this point. You shouldn't know what her political or religious beliefs are. Her job is to listen to YOU.
 
No moderators in this section, there is a thread in Playground I think called Incest is Best. I can't help but laugh about the adults in the forums bit, stick around look at some of the most popular threads in the General Boards, you'll notice there is very little in adult behavior, political threads are all about who has a bigger wang, the look at what may be happening soon threads are all about who has a bigger wang, and there are some about sex in various forms, though those seem closer to virgins playing coy than adults wanting to get together. :eek:

Apparently you never noticed so far and didn't get the memo, high school never goes away, the only difference is you stop living with your parents and maybe become mom or dad. :rolleyes:

Adult is a title slapped on things deemed by the government as to mature for someone younger than this. There actually are no such thing as adults. :devil:

Oh yeah there is a thread on incest in the Authors Hangout. If you want to find more stories on the subject head on over to Story Idea's section.
 
Good reason to stick with the sick therapist.
I'm all over that.

Is it covered? You're not paying, right?

Sigmund Freud took drugs and did self-therapy.

You should skip the first part but work on the second.
 
gaaaah. I'm so torn. I came in here ready to give the usual GB bullshit to the newb, but I can't bring myself to do it.

you're normal. not weird. not fucked up. your therapist is an idiot. good to hear you're finding a new one.

you seem to have appropriate, healthy boundaries that keep your fantasies what they should be.

damn. can't find even a bit of snark to throw in.

What she said.

Dump the therapist and spend the money on something better, like a good porny book of the fantasies you like to read.
 
You said she was interested in doping you up with medications? Get someone who doesn't deal with medications.

I have a separate psychiatrist and psychologist, so that I can have one person to deal with meds and one person to deal with other shit. And the first time I saw my new psychiatrist, he started to take me off all the worthless shit my old psych. put me on.
 
pinkstarfish fucked her brother so I'm sure she would have some tips for you.

Feel free to PM her, she digs that.
 
Can you summarize? I'm not reading that.

He has adult consensual incest fantasies. Mostly, he just likes to hear about it. And his therapist called him perverted and twisted and was generally a bitch about it. He was surprised and is now totally bummed, but he IS getting a new therapist.
 
gaaaah. I'm so torn. I came in here ready to give the usual GB bullshit to the newb, but I can't bring myself to do it.

you're normal. not weird. not fucked up. your therapist is an idiot. good to hear you're finding a new one.

you seem to have appropriate, healthy boundaries that keep your fantasies what they should be.

damn. can't find even a bit of snark to throw in.

I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that he's literate. We don't see that much from first-time posters. He's educated and seems well read. If his post had been marred with misspellings and bad grammer he would've been thrown to the wolves like most of them do.
 
He has adult consensual incest fantasies. Mostly, he just likes to hear about it. And his therapist called him perverted and twisted and was generally a bitch about it. He was surprised and is now totally bummed, but he IS getting a new therapist.

Aw, thank you. :kiss:

You're not perverted! That's normal!

I hope that helps. :)
 
I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that he's literate. We don't see that much from first-time posters. He's educated and seems well read. If his post had been marred with misspellings and bad grammer he would've been thrown to the wolves like most of them do.

yeah. and I started reading expecting that and when I didn't find it, I kept reading and sort of felt bad for him. perfectly normal, pervy dude made to feel bad about his pervyness. that is no good.

p.s. you and ol' what's-his-name are so cute in your avs. :eek:
 
I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that he's literate. We don't see that much from first-time posters. He's educated and seems well read. If his post had been marred with misspellings and bad grammer he would've been thrown to the wolves like most of them do.

That fantasiesonly dude got ripped a new asshole on here. I'm wondering myself what the difference is between the two other than this dude is more articulate.
 
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