My new house, has a hidden surprise (closed for Joathan)

[JonathanBair]

Yes I did have a wife about 20 years before I died, she was 20. I taught my daughter wood carving and did make desks mostly but also vanities and storage benches. Tho she really did that carving and engraving part mostly in the shop. I just went off sites to do repairs and blue prints.

When she asked about what I can do, I do not address it with words.... I did show her tho by going inadvisable while holding her hand and saying "I am glad you are ok with me, and if you want me only in there when ask I will respect your wish's." Then coming back visible.

I think about if there is rules about a ghost living with a human.. In my mind the only rule I know is to chase them out of the area as that is what most haunting stem from.

I smile as she talks about her dreams.... When she dose the statement that also sounded like a question I smile and nod while saying "yes we do, like you willing to wear dresses around the house for me. Some part of your mind registers me as you sleep and makes it apart of you. Like when I was troubled your body could feel it....

I let out a loud sigh when hearing about you not wanting me to sleep with you for now. I say "If you wish, but it is going to trouble both of us... I am only really happy when you are sleeping as we are in tune then.... *disappointed sigh*... You can almost hear the pain in my voice as I say "ok"

Hearing you say you got allot of things to work out, how to live together, but you hope it is possible.

I say when you go to take a bath tonight, I think I am going to visit cross town to talk to another ghost about this........ It is not exactly normal with humans. He is much older and a Indian so they may have some insight on things we would not think about. I am not sure how long I will be gone as time dose not really have the same meaning for us ghosts. A second might as well be a minute, hour, day or year.....Unless we got a repeating event to look foreword to...

 

[Becaa57]

I let out a loud sigh when hearing about you not wanting me to sleep with you for now. I say "If you wish, but it is going to trouble both of us... I am only really happy when you are sleeping as we are in tune then.... *disappointed sigh*... You can almost hear the pain in my voice as I say "ok"

I can't help but chuckle at the sad face you make, when I say that.
"Wow, that was more like what I'd expect from a little boy!!!!"

I haven't totally decided, I do know I enjoyed when you holding me, but I thought I was dreaming, although now wondering if in my sleep I knew it was you???
Confusing for sure!!!!

I was going to ask if you're tied to the house, but you have other ghost friends??? Interesting
How many ghosts in the neighborhood? I know back in the day it was a pretty violent place

So, basically not to expect you, until you get back?

 

[JonathanBair]

I nod hearing you say you haven't totally decided yet about the holding thing... As it is Confusing... I smile and say "Ya tell me about it someone moved into my house one day and something pulling at me to want to be with them, to sleep with them and enjoy holding them but to find out they enjoy being held......... 200 years of not needing a bed and suddenly the bed is the happy place of my afterlife... I am a ghost for crying out loud. All my human contact should have died long ago even if I had a lover that lived with me while I was alive to want to keep living with....... But I got this house then boom you walk into my life....

I would not say we are friends.... It is more like going to visit a graveyard to talk to some older spirits...It is a native grave area... Ghosts do not really have friends, when we die we are tied to something, for me this house. Some may be a location like where they died...For me I had emotional bonds I was not willing to give up.... I hear if the get severed we can cross over if we are that aware... I just wanted you to understand when I go to see the indians, it could be a blink of a eye before the bath is even filled, or it could take all night... We do not need to talk like this to each other. We can umm how do I put this... *pulls my hands away as I think while rubbing my chin* We can share a story in like showing a mental picture. Think of one time watching a full movie in a blink of a eye then next time watching that movie all day... Time just dose not have the same meaning...

 

[Becaa57]

"I think this is confusing for both of us. For you the 1st time in 200 years? You've talked to a living person, or at least shared the bed with her"

"I know from what I read that you have interacted with people, that's how this how is known to be haunted, but it's the first time when you aren't trying to get rid of them?"

"Do you sleep at all? Or just as you put it exist?"

"So you will just go over there talk to him/them to give me some privacy?"
"Thank you for doing that"

"Just asking for some time to get used to living with a real was going to say live, but I guess dead ghost"

 

[JonathanBair]

I laugh "Oh I interacted with people alright, to chase them off.. But not to want to be physically with like to cuddle at night.... This is a first to want this kind of bond... Normally we just exist, well it is different for the indians as they speak to there spirits, be it human, animal or gods.

I say I should have gone over there the night you moved in or next morning soon as you woke up really...

I sigh and say "I know this much, I can not think of the rest of time not having you in my arms....Only way I know to give up this afterlife is to cross over......Then I am not sure where I will be then...

 

[Becaa57]

"I hope you're not serious about crossing over?????"

"You existed for what 200 years without touching or hugging someone, and now because I ask for some time to get used to it, you're just going to cross over??"

"I would have a thought someone like you would have patience. You must know that some people would have me committed for even believing you exist, let alone trying to find a way to coexist???"

"Ahhh Jon, you disappoint me"

"Go see your friend, I'll be here when you get back"

 

[JonathanBair]

I smile as I say I have no plans to just yet... I would like to hang around a bit... But if you cant handle living with a ghost. Just now there is something that could be done with out you having to pack everything up....

 

[Becaa57]

"I just found out that I am for sure living with a ghost. So give me some time to figure it out ok?"

"I like hanging around with you, it's interesting"

"I'm guessing you don't eat, but I'm getting hungry"

"Join me at the table at least?"

I go downstairs and pull out some leftovers, not even sure I can eat as my mind is still spinning in circles.

I warm the food up and sit down at the kitchen table. I don't see you yet

 

[JonathanBair]

I pause a moment as I ponder what to do. After a few minutes I do make my way down to the table and become visible.

While sitting at the table I say "Sure we can figure this out in time, but I need you to know there is two parts of your mind.... Your waking and sleeping that seams to be more deeper or primal to your core. I will not rush you just do not want you to dismiss the part you are not aware of..... As this is a change in life for both of us..."

I node in agreement then saying "Interesting and much more.... Shocking enjoyable and unsettling with the massive change of life."

With a deep exhale I say "I never had a clue to this could be a option, this is unheard of and mind blowing. I can say I can not think of what life would be with out you, but I understand if from your side, past few nights I was your dream lover to find out that is real. Must of really turned your life upside down about as much as this bond turned mine up side down... As much as it hurts me, do you want to try spending a night on your own to see how you feel in the morning?"

 

[Becaa57]

I smile when you materialize and sit down
"Thank you kind sir!!!"

"I know dreams are from my subconscious but never thought of having two parts of my mind"

"You're telling me my dream mind, knew you were there and as a lover?"

"I'm just trying to figure it out, to be honest the fact that I'm sitting at my table talking to a real ghost is in a word"
"Mind blowing!!! However I know I'm awake and as far as I know I'm not crazy!"

"Maybe you can ask your Indian friend? He's older right? and more in touch with spirits anyways"
"He maybe able to help us with this!!!"

"I'm guessing I won't get to meet him???"

"But as many ghosts as there are around, are there a lot? it's got to have happened to others"

"Yes I'd like to spend a night alone. You've been with me every night so far??"

"And it may not be an issue for you mentioned you have no idea in real time how long you will be gone. So I might be alone tonight or several days???"

 

[JonathanBair]

"The natives are not really my friends... Some of them from my time knew me and we did trade some. We respected how each other lived but wanted very different things in life. At there graveyard I am sure I will find some older ones then me, as they have been in this are long before we the whites showed up... And I am sure I will find younger ones.... I know of the area from when I was alive it was a area that no outside was aloud only there people was allowed to visit there tribe members from the past. To ask the spirit's for help be it luck or safety... " I pause with some clear though on my face for a few seconds before saying "I do not know how or why your sleeping mind picked up on me. If I had a heart that still beat, I would bet money the scare of you picking me up would have stopped it... But you seamed very happy to snuggle into me, then when my mind was busy you scared me more by telling me it would be ok..... I just do not understand how or why, but something about you makes us crave each other..... Please stop and think... When you got here you loved to wear pants, then at night I told you I wished you wore more dresses and you started to wear dresses when not cleaning right???"

 

[Becaa57]

"Even when you're all ghosts?? I would have thought more one big happy family"

"Well as long as you don't get scalped!!!! I don't think I could handle that!!!!"

"I know it's weird, I remember enough of those dreams, well what I thought were dreams to know I felt you"

"And we talked some, although I guess it was just me actually talking?"

"Weird and there must be a reason it happened!!! While you out galavanting with the guys, I will do some digging on it too"

"We have this thing called the internet, can find all kinds of things there, not just sexy nude women"

"Not sure how I feel about you talking me out of wearing pants, I mean it's not that I didn't like to wear a dress it's just that I usually didn't"

"There will be times though that pants make more sense for me to wear!!!"

"How did you make it through the 60's to now and still expect women in dresses??"

 

[JonathanBair]

I smile and say back then in my time, this was still a small town some what only about 1,000 people. There was a navy section attached in the lake fleet... But for the most part the natives traded with us whites when they didn't join the stupid wars us whites had with each other.... Other parts of the nation tho like where gold is, the interaction was very different.. Duluth was formed by fur traders to ships there furs out, so with the town growing up around furr and lumber was allot more easier for the natives to live in peace. They often had hides to trade to, you know if they kill a animal almost all the time it is only to eat it, then they use the hide or trade it for goods....

Yes the dreams was your mind allowing you to interact with me. Talk and enjoy and care about me...

I know of the net, and it can be on phones wow what a change of cutting edge tech there. From being wall mounted boxs you speak into that is as big as a human torso to something that fits in the hand. You know back in my time a modern city might have one phone in the local store.... That is how new it was back then...

As far as me talking you out of pants, it wasn't like that at all... I just asked "my love will you wear a dresses for me my love" and you responded with "a dress is not practical all the time, like when cleaning." Then you chose to do it out of that single request....

I smile and say the 60's 1860, or 1960? I am likely to see 2060 and much more *starts to chuckle for a sec at my joke* 1960's was a crazy time, the human world had turned it self upside down.. I had a college group of kids try and take over this place.... I was happy on my own up here for most of the 60's

 

[Becaa57]

Sounds like a really nice place to live!!!

I know my family has lived here on and off for quite a while, no idea if you would've over lapped or not. It was more my moms then my dad family. His was from out west more.

My dream mind connecting to your I guess spirit? or your mind? So strange.

So, because you suggested I wear dresses more, now I've had to buy several new ones. Before I moved in I had like 3 or 4 dresses, mostly for in the office or a summer dress.

Sure glad you didn't have me wear hose too!!!!

That's weird that you will see 2060 and beyond. I'll just be a memory then???

Finding it both strange and relaxing talking to you like this. Similar to a 2nd date when you really start getting to know someone

 

[JonathanBair]

I did not know your family lived here... I lost track of what happened to my daughters kids so no idea if my line is still alive anymore....

I think your sleeping mind is more open and picks up my energy rather then my mind, tho this is so crazy I really do not know...

I honestly like seeing your bare legs so I would ask to see you not wear hoes... What do you think of wearing shorts rather then pants for me? Maybe we can look online at some shorts and order them? That way you get the freedom of the pants and I get to enjoy seeing your sexy legs.

You are still young, I would hope you live to see 2060, it is not that far away. Just 40 years away, and honestly sitting here thinking of you not being in my life scares me... I know you are going to age and I will stay the same, but honestly I do not know how I will handle you passing... and to where you will be when you die... You could pick to stay here, maybe some place int the world will draw your spirtit like this house drew mine, then maybe you will cross....

 

[Becaa57]

I joined ancestry a while back. Maybe check in there, do you know your daughters married name?

I think you're right about the sleeping mind being more open to energy, which is why I'm hoping another ghost has had a similar experience, maybe you can trade notes?

Shorts are good, although not when the weather is cool!!!. I have a feeling this house is going to be hard to heat. Need to get a HVAC guy out here to inspect the equipment. That i Know is fairly new

LOL I know when said 2060 my first that was that's a long ways away, but I guess it's not.
However in 40 years I'm going to be an old woman.
Will I have a choice when I die? To stay or go??? And if I die later in life what form will I take if I stay?

 

[JonathanBair]

Depends on how you die... Sometimes if it is a sudden death often I hear ghosts that died in battle being trapped in time, where they still move as a unit on the field... If it is of old age you seen coming you can pick if your spirit is ready to leave earth or if it has a tie it is not willing to give up... As far what happens after the spirit makes he call to give up the time on earth, I do not know if heaven or anthing like that is real.... My spirit is happy in this house and on this land.... The view from the bedroom or on the deck there, is worth staying for me....

I honestly do not know her married name... I know I heard she was married but was out of state...

I lean foreword kissing you on your forehead and say "I hope to see you a little old lady when you die knowing you had a long happy life with me." And odds are yes most spirits do not stay on earth so you most likely will have the choice... Then even if it is a sudden death like in your sleep, you will have me to help you so you know what happened. Something most humans do not have...

 

[Becaa57]

I listen as he explains it all to me.

Ok, sounds like when you die there is no one thing that will happen, depends on circumstances, how you died and what you want to do

I like the idea of having a full live before dying, but if I choose to stay with you, I want to be in the form I am now!!!

Can you have sex with other ghosts??? Have you??????????????????????????????????

 

[JonathanBair]

I smile and say "I was on a ship in a storm. That lake is really cold you know. I think I heard a song about it... Wreck of something or the other....Tells the story about how in the fall the lake can get mean and when she takes you, she keeps all bodies so over the years I know my spirit is not the only one she claimed"

I am would think you can change your spirit shape form old lady to young girl.... I never really looked into it... I have not really been around other ghosts, and last time I had sex I was with my wife... *smiles as I watch your face to see how you react to realizing I have not had sex in over 200 years.*

 

[Becaa57]

"Ok, now I'm confused!!! You were shot to death here in the house you and a woman you were with at the time, by her husband"
"Now you're saying you were a sailor on the Edmond Fitzgerald? "
"Can't both"

"So the last time you had sex was with your wife? And she died years before you died?"
"Why???"

 

[JonathanBair]

No, I did not die in the house.. I was on a ship and got shot.. The guy was a captain with his wife on board....I was just saying the lake is cold like the song about the Edmond Ftizgerald as that ship sank like 1970 or so...

*nods to confirm about the last time I had sex* Why? I got married young and after she died, I just didn't want female companionship, till you moved in....

 

[Becaa57]

"Ok I got confused. Yes I've heard the lake is very cold and very deep"
"Not even a lake really, but a fresh water sea!!!"

"That's remarkable well in today's age it is. I think most widowers, remarry within a year"
"Especially if the wife died young. Widows on the other hand a lot stay alone"

 

[JonathanBair]

*Shrugs* I just did not feel the need for companionship till you.....

 

[Becaa57]

"That's terribly romantic you know!!!!"

"Feels like I have a ton of things to learn"
"Well we have a ton of things to learn together"

I realize I'm holding your hand, don't remember grabbing it

"Questions can and should go both ways. So if you have one for me, don't hesitate to ask"

 

[JonathanBair]

Ok, umm what was your love life like?