More on the Flynn case

[Rightguide]

National security can get you tossed into jail and held indefinitely without recourse to an attorney or court.

Square that with "Constitutional Rights".



Thus the question of whether Obama will go to bat for Comey. If yes, they're all golden. If not...

If you are a long serving Congressman who will eventually come up for reelection, do you want to go down that path and ask those questions knowing that either answer will alienate half of the voters against you?

Hell I'm still trying to square the FISA with the Constitution.

 

[Rightguide]

Now there is this:

FBI Director Wray opens internal review into how bureau handled Michael Flynn case

By Alex Pappas | Fox News

The FBI announced Friday that Director Chris Wray has ordered an internal review of the handling of the bureau’s investigation into former national security adviser Michael Flynn, which will include examining whether current FBI employees "engaged in misconduct."

“FBI Director Christopher Wray today ordered the Bureau’s Inspection Division to conduct an after-action review of the Michael Flynn investigation,” the bureau said in a statement.

The review will be handled by the bureau’s Inspection Division, the FBI said. That division is similar to an internal affairs office in a police department.

The bureau said the “after-action review” will have a two-fold purpose: evaluating the FBI’s role in the case and determining whether any “current employees engaged in misconduct,” as well as identifying whether any “improvements” might be warranted to FBI procedures.

“Although the FBI does not have the prosecutorial authority to bring a criminal case, the Inspection Division can and will evaluate whether any current onboard employees engaged in actions that might warrant disciplinary measures,” the FBI said.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fb...on-into-how-bureau-handled-michael-flynn-case

 

[icanhelp1]

Hell I'm still trying to square the FISA with the Constitution.

Why do I feel that the FISA shit will end up as nothing more than process misunderstandings. The patriot act was just voted on with a by-partisan majority with very few reforms if any!

 

[Conager]

Powell: My client plead without seeing any of the relevant evidence supporting the theory of the charge on advise of "counsel?" Yeah, I'm going to see the Brady material on that so that I can properly advise my client.

Sullivan: You didn't provide Brady material to that treasonous bastard? C'mon, man,. . .you gotta do that so I can send him to jail!

DOJ: Yeah, about that. . .

. . .we weren't really serious about jail time and were thinking maybe we could see our way to just dropping the whole thing, especially seeing how upset you were about this sort of prosecutorial misconduct in the Ted Steven's case, judge. . .


BoreNextDoor: It's a DEEP STATE CONSPIRACY!


Why, I wonder, would DOJ reconsider once Flynn had actual counsel, instead of the deeply compromised lawyers who were threatened that they were about to get the same treatment that Manafort's lawyers got?

 

[icanhelp1]

Now there is this:

FBI Director Wray opens internal review into how bureau handled Michael Flynn case

By Alex Pappas | Fox News

The FBI announced Friday that Director Chris Wray has ordered an internal review of the handling of the bureau’s investigation into former national security adviser Michael Flynn, which will include examining whether current FBI employees "engaged in misconduct."

“FBI Director Christopher Wray today ordered the Bureau’s Inspection Division to conduct an after-action review of the Michael Flynn investigation,” the bureau said in a statement.

The review will be handled by the bureau’s Inspection Division, the FBI said. That division is similar to an internal affairs office in a police department.

The bureau said the “after-action review” will have a two-fold purpose: evaluating the FBI’s role in the case and determining whether any “current employees engaged in misconduct,” as well as identifying whether any “improvements” might be warranted to FBI procedures.

“Although the FBI does not have the prosecutorial authority to bring a criminal case, the Inspection Division can and will evaluate whether any current onboard employees engaged in actions that might warrant disciplinary measures,” the FBI said.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fb...on-into-how-bureau-handled-michael-flynn-case

Well RG, this should have been done a year ago, it's nothing more than a smoke screen. Like you I hope there are prosecutions but I don't believe there will be. This is nothing more than Wray giving way to a little political pressure and will end with nobody being even admonished. If they can't convict McCabe and Strkoz they can't do shit!!

 

[bellisarius]

Well RG, this should have been done a year ago, it's nothing more than a smoke screen. Like you I hope there are prosecutions but I don't believe there will be. This is nothing more than Wray giving way to a little political pressure and will end with nobody being even admonished. If they can't convict McCabe and Strkoz they can't do shit!!

While the FBI can't prosecute, the DOJ can. My concern is, "is this going to be carried out in a timely manner?" They can drag the investigation out until all the participants are dead for crying out loud.

 

[jp55665566]

"Internal Review" Crooked cops performing a white-wash.

 

[phrodeau]

This is a great article by one of America's great remaining investigative reporters. It's well worth the time for those interested in the why and how the Flynn take down was initiated:


How Russiagate Began With Obama’s Iran Deal Domestic Spying Campaign
Michael Flynn posed a threat to the former president’s legacy and was made to pay for it
by
Lee Smith
May 20, 2020

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/russiagate-obama-iran

Pick a story and stick with it, jeez.

 

[KeithD]

Guilty Flynn just reflects corrupt, criminal, Russian asset Donald Trump.

 

[icanhelp1]

While the FBI can't prosecute, the DOJ can. My concern is, "is this going to be carried out in a timely manner?" They can drag the investigation out until all the participants are dead for crying out loud.

I understand the DOJ prosecute. Timely? They already missed the boat. Like I feel confident in another FBI investigation, especially from the likes of Wray. Sometimes you wish Durham did leak a little, you know, something like Grand Jury panels actually exist. I haven't heard anything. Why aren't FISA judges on the hot seat.

 

[jp55665566]

Yes. Donald Trump is a Russian asset, an agent of the Kremlin, a buddy of Putin. That's what the Evening News and the CIA/FBI/NSA have been telling us every night for the past several years.

 

[KeithD]

Yes. Donald Trump is a Russian asset, an agent of the Kremlin, a buddy of Putin. That's what the Evening News and the CIA/FBI/NSA have been telling us every night for the past several years.

It's what Trump has been telling us too--right out in the open--and it's what anyone with a functioning brain can see by everything Trump says and everything he does. Glad you've finally caught on. Of course, you'll forget you did in the next five minutes.

You know this little reverse psychology schtick you've been doing for a week doesn't fool anyone, don't you? (Just checking.)

 

[bellisarius]

I understand the DOJ prosecute. Timely? They already missed the boat. Like I feel confident in another FBI investigation, especially from the likes of Wray. Sometimes you wish Durham did leak a little, you know, something like Grand Jury panels actually exist. I haven't heard anything. Why aren't FISA judges on the hot seat.

The longer this drags out the worse it's going to be for the FBI's image. I can't imagine any less than a thorough, and public, house cleaning even beginning to repair the damage.

One other problem is that the FBI isn't immune to Civil Engineering 101 - Shit flows down hill. The longer the field agents remain silent the more they're going to be considered culpable. I've been waiting for them to speak out but so far, silence.

 

[KeithD]

The longer this drags out the worse it's going to be for the FBI's image.

Which, as a Trumpette, you're applauding, right?--since this is Trump's (and the Russians') plan for the FBI and has been for some time.

 

[jp55665566]

When the cops are crooked, who's gonna arrest the cops? Truth is that Donald Trump will not be allowed to win re-election, and all the hub-bub about crooked/treasonous FBI/CIA/NSA activity will disappear. The USA will become the AMERO zone, and you WILL comply happily, or else!

 

[KeithD]

There you go with that reverse psychology try again. Doesn't fool anyone this time either.

 

[Conager]

The longer this drags out the worse it's going to be for the FBI's image. I can't imagine any less than a thorough, and public, house cleaning even beginning to repair the damage.

One other problem is that the FBI isn't immune to Civil Engineering 101 - Shit flows down hill. The longer the field agents remain silent the more they're going to be considered culpable. I've been waiting for them to speak out but so far, silence.

The actual Flynn and Mueller nonsense was all pretty top level hekd stuff. Strocyk personally got involved in the interview and personally got involved with editing the FD-302.

I was reading an article somewhere about that great big satchel of documents that Grinnell took over to capital Hill.

I didn't know anything about this but Brennn for a while was out of official government service, started a multi million-dollar information contracting company which does contracting for the intelligence agencies, providing the people who are have their fingers on the keyboards and apparently it's potentially billions of dollars.

They were saying that that is where the pressure is going to come from not downhill as you suggest but uphill from the very bottom. Start putting keyboard operators in jail and they're going to start explaining who asked them to look up what and why

 

[Rightguide]

Why do I feel that the FISA shit will end up as nothing more than process misunderstandings. The patriot act was just voted on with a by-partisan majority with very few reforms if any!

Let's see if Trump vetoes it.

 

[Rightguide]

Well RG, this should have been done a year ago, it's nothing more than a smoke screen. Like you I hope there are prosecutions but I don't believe there will be. This is nothing more than Wray giving way to a little political pressure and will end with nobody being even admonished. If they can't convict McCabe and Strkoz they can't do shit!!

This is Wray trying to keep his job. I think Trump has his number.

 

[HisArpy]

Let's see if Trump vetoes it.

Trump will sign it. Government NEVER surrenders that kind of power peacefully.

 

[Rightguide]

I understand the DOJ prosecute. Timely? They already missed the boat. Like I feel confident in another FBI investigation, especially from the likes of Wray. Sometimes you wish Durham did leak a little, you know, something like Grand Jury panels actually exist. I haven't heard anything. Why aren't FISA judges on the hot seat.

The sad news is, we are no longer a united people. On one side we have Americans, on the other we have those who want to be Americans in a country vastly different than the one we've lived in. The only way we're going to keep our country and our American values is to defeat these people on every level. We now know what it will look like if we don't. They don't want to debate, find middle ground, or come together. They want us out of the way. They want it all. It's time to take them on and defeat them. See you at the polls in a 170 days or so.

 

[Rightguide]

Trump will sign it. Government NEVER surrenders that kind of power peacefully.

He said he wouldn't sign a bad bill without substantial changes. So we'll see. I hope you're wrong.

 

[phrodeau]

The sad news is, we are no longer a united people. On one side we have Americans, on the other we have those who want to be Americans in a country vastly different than the one we've lived in. The only way we're going to keep our country and our American values is to defeat these people on every level. We now know what it will look like if we don't. They don't want to debate, find middle ground, or come together. They want us out of the way. They want it all. It's time to take them on and defeat them. See you at the polls in a 170 days or so.

Hello there, American. Your tribalism is killing your fellow Americans.

 

[Rotadom]

The sad news is, we are no longer a united people. On one side we have Americans, on the other we have those who want to be Americans in a country vastly different than the one we've lived in. The only way we're going to keep our country and our American values is to defeat these people on every level. We now know what it will look like if we don't. They don't want to debate, find middle ground, or come together. They want us out of the way. They want it all. It's time to take them on and defeat them. See you at the polls in a 170 days or so.

I've seen you agree with, if not say yourself, that Liberals should be kicked out of the country and much worse. There hasn't been middle ground since Trump won the Republican nomination and duped you into helping him tear down our country.

 

[Rightguide]

I've seen you agree with, if not say yourself, that Liberals should be kicked out of the country and much worse. There hasn't been middle ground since Trump won the Republican nomination and duped you into helping him tear down our country.

The Democrat Party is the most destructive force in America today. Just look at the places where they govern, what they've done to innocent people in the last eight years. The time for debate and compromise is over. it's time to destroy them politically, prosecute them legally, and sweep the vermin out of office. It's time to humiliate them publicly, ridicule their ideology, and sweep it from the minds of our youth. It's time to put them in the closet. It's time to see them for what they really are. It's time to stand up. So fuck off with your phony bullshit.