More gov. involvement in healthcare will make it more efficient and less expensive

[miles]

Your answer must begin with the words TRUE or FALSE. No beating around the bush.
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FALSE. Government interference never makes anything more efficient and less expensive.

 

[miles]

I wonder how long before someone says "it depends," or what does "more efficient" or "less expensive mean?"

 

[clutch1]

True. You just did.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

True; it has worked well with the Post Office, Education and the Student Loan Program, Freddie and Fannie, Energy...,

 

[Saint Peter]

Efficiency would be not providing service to those with conditions that are expensive to provide.

Yay money!!

 

[mercury14]

Your answer must begin with the words TRUE or FALSE. No beating around the bush.
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FALSE. Government interference never makes anything more efficient and less expensive.

Cheaper to whom?

 

[clutch1]

True: no one get denied hospital access as it is, even if you're illegal and the hospital knows there is no way you can pay the bill, they still treat you.
So is this just a front to have the American tax payers subsidize the hospitals?

 

[1sickbastard]

So is this just a front to have the American tax payers subsidize the hospitals?

False. It's about taxpayers subsidizing corperations which sell health insurance.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

False. It's about taxpayers subsidizing corperations which sell health insurance.

The same companies that Sebelius described this week as being in a death spiral?

She knew that and THEN decided to order them to provide more free services...

 

[Scentofawoman]

True
What I envision needing to happen is that there needs to be several Medicaids HMO's that are government backed, not industry backed. Then these Medicaid HMO's do not need to worry about price of service provided. The fact that there are several govt back HMO's drive a capatalistic mindset to drive down the price payout for service provided. Problem is healthcare deals with basic human emotion. This person is sick and needs this treatment. Right now insurance companies are a business with profit margins. This mentality needs to be changed or taken away. I have denied patients services because of the of company policy. It became a game to see how individual case managers can circumvent the system. Any one who has been denied anything like oxygen knows what I mean.

 

[mercury14]

The same companies that Sebelius described this week as being in a death spiral?

She knew that and THEN decided to order them to provide more free services...

Stop lying. You're lying every day now without exception.

Nobody is ordered to provide free services. You're making that up.

And Sibelius is right, the private insurance industry is in a death spiral because costs are going up way faster than workers or employers can afford to pay. And like Sibelius said, that dynamic was in motion long before the Affordable Care Act. It was in motion long before Bush as well.

 

[Destinys_Bitch]

If hospitals were run like automobile service stations, it would be more straightforward. Parts and labor. You get the keys back when you pay the bill.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Stop lying. You're lying every day now without exception.

Nobody is ordered to provide free services. You're making that up.

And Sibelius is right, the private insurance industry is in a death spiral because costs are going up way faster than workers or employers can afford to pay. And like Sibelius said, that dynamic was in motion long before the Affordable Care Act. It was in motion long before Bush as well.

She did too.

She also admitted to cooking the books.

But yet their prices are up triple...

You go explain that.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Government involvement in transportation has made moving around cheaper. I, for one, am glad I don't have to buy the property and build the road to go over the the 7-11.


Power transmissions is cheaper with government involvement. Can you imagine having to string your own wires to the power plant? egads!

Air traffic control?

A marine is cheaper than a Blackwater merc.

I can have a letter taken from my hand on Monday, and placed in the hand of someone in LA on Wednesday - for 45 cents... that's pretty cheap and efficient.

If the government had started it's ad campaign about the dangers of drinking while pregnant about 60 years ago, we wouldn't have these dumb threads.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Adjudication of disputes. You can always go to arbitration, but it's more expensive than using the judicial branch of government.


And if someone steals from me, I'm glad I don't have to hire a posse to round em up.

 

[Cheyenne]

True; it has worked well with the Post Office, Education and the Student Loan Program, Freddie and Fannie, Energy...,

LOL!!

 

[phrodeau]

If government had given us fire, some people would still bitch about how much fires cost to maintain, how expensive fires can be when they're out of control, and how damned cold it gets in the winter.

 

[Liar]

More gov. involvement in healthcare will make it more efficient and less expensive

This is a stupid topic.

Your answer must begin with the words TRUE or FALSE. No beating around the bush.

This is a stupid premise.

FALSE. Government interference never makes anything more efficient and less expensive.

This is a stupid statement.


/in the face of no sense, going meta is the only sensible option

 

[miles]

False. It's about taxpayers subsidizing corperations which sell health insurance.

Dude...single payer will eliminate insurance companies

 

[JohnnySavage]

Dude...single payer will eliminate insurance companies

You mean like it did with Tri-Care and Medicare Advantage and Medicare Part D and FEHB?

 

[Wok]

True: Less expensive for me, more expensive for you. Thanks for your contribution, Miles. Oh wait...

 

[mercury14]

You mean like it did with Tri-Care and Medicare Advantage and Medicare Part D and FEHB?

Canada anyone?

 

[Peregrinator]

This is a stupid topic.

This is a stupid premise.

This is a stupid statement.


/in the face of no sense, going meta is the only sensible option

It's a typical miles question, framed like an opinion poll from some spinmaster so-called "think tank."

 

[patrick1]

Your answer must begin with the words TRUE or FALSE. No beating around the bush.
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FALSE. Government interference never makes anything more efficient and less expensive.

TRUE.

IN Europe, Australasia and a little country just north of the USA, more government involvement involves on average considerably less expenditure per head of the population on health care.

JURY OUT but in my view TRUE.

You'd have to define efficency to get clear answers. My proposal would be that longevity at birth is an appropriate measure. In that case, TRUE is the answer: more government involvement in health care than in the USA generally correlates with greater average life expectancy.

 

[Mike_Yates]

Your answer must begin with the words TRUE or FALSE. No beating around the bush.
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FALSE. Government interference never makes anything more efficient and less expensive.

The staggering cost of health care is all about eugenics.

Depriving mostly poor and uneducated people of medicine and health care weeds out the weak and incompetent in our society.

Read here about social darwinism.