Moral Dilema's

[GrantBricksly]

Anyone else come up with idea's for stories that they just know would be amazing, and do very well (as far as votes/comments and contests are concerned) but have issues writing them for due to morals?

I have always taken issue with the fact that a lot of stories/porn videos tend to focus on cheating wives, or cheating husbands, etc. Don't get me wrong, I love the scenarios those lead to, but why must it be a wife cheating on her husband? Couldn't it just be a Wife and Husband who are super passionate about each other? I know I am likely in a minority here, and that's why I don't typically do say anything about it. I simply choose not to write things like that.

That being said, I came up with an amazing story idea a few weeks ago for the winter holiday contest, that would have been just fantastic. but for the life of me, I could not figure a way to avoid the "cheating" aspect of it. So, I did not write it.

Anybody else ever have this issue? Anyone else ever not write a good idea for moral objections? Or am I the only one?

 

[Lifestyle66]

Why does the story have to be about "cheating"? Could you turn the story into one of consensual sharing/swinging? Or is that also morally repugnant to you?

I write such "sex is fun" stories, and I get slammed by the comments. My latest story was told from a different POV, so I could have the husband and wife both and separately talk about their reasoning in such a swinger relationship. I also used that third-party, first person POV to have the wife spell it out that she was never going to stray from her husband.

Maybe try looking for another way to make your story morally acceptable, unless you just can't get there.

 

[Trionyx]

The real question is the definition of ‘moral.’ What might be moral to one person isn’t moral to another. Take ethical nonmonogamy. Some feel this is moral while others don’t. So if I choose to write about an open marriage, some will be offended and others might enjoy the story. Just be forewarned, if you do write about an ‘immoral’ situation, you may get slammed, particularly if the female engages in the situation willingly.

 

[GrantBricksly]

The story idea specifically in question this time around, would be hard to get there for me. Because the entire concept of how the scene comes to be is that the husband is home, while the wife is out shopping for Black Friday, and then daughter (over 18 of course) sneaks in and seduces him. I can imagine the entire story...but I can't get myself through the cheating part of it. (I have no issues with the Daddy/Daughter part. My Wife and I are DD/lg so thats not the issue..)

This is the first time I've had a story Idea that I couldn't figure out a way to write past/through the cheating aspect of...

 

[Seadog777]

You are the writer. It's your creation. You write what you are comfortable with.

It is possible to take a "cheating" theme and turn it into something like a husband and wife "roleplaying" to add a little spice and excitement into their love life.

 

[KeithD]

I've had to backtrack a time or two on the moral dilemma of writing something. Cheating wives/husbands don't rise to that level with me, though.

 

[GrantBricksly]

You've landed on a porn site, and you have a moral problem with cheating. are you a seminarian?
It is immoral that I have to refrain from saying what is on my mind right now.

I don't find porn immoral, or erotica. I just take issue with cheating. Perhaps immoral is the wrong choice of words, but the point is, that I do not like the idea of cheating. I do not do it, and I hope that my wife will not do it either.

That being said, when it comes to porn/erotica, whether I like it or not, I am well aware of the fact that "cheating" is going to be hard to avoid, and so I still watch/read it and enjoy the scenes. I just wish it didn't include cheating.

A perfect example of this, is that one of my fetishes for porn, is women in wedding dresses. I love it. Because fucking my own wife in her wedding dress was something that I fantasized about, and looked forward to, and then very much enjoyed doing several times after the wedding. The problem is: good luck finding a porn video that has a woman in a wedding dress that isn't the bride cheating on her soon to be husband. There are very few videos out there of husbands fucking their brides in the dress on their wedding nights...

But back to the point of all of this...I think, in the process of talking all of this out...I may have actually come up with a way to make this story work...

 

[TarnishedPenny]

I was asked to do a (strongly) non-con for a couple, to play to her (apparently not uncommon) rape fantasy. I did it, keeping within Lit’s boundaries. It worked, they were happy and the story got decent enough feedback. I found however that I was increasingly uncomfortable, that writing it had pushed way too many of my own buttons. I no longer will write such. That’s not a judgement on anyone else, but it was not a good thing for me. I guess that’s the morality thing?

 

[GrantBricksly]

I was asked to do a (strongly) non-con for a couple, to play to her (apparently not uncommon) rape fantasy. I did it, keeping within Lit’s boundaries. It worked, they were happy and the story got decent enough feedback. I found however that I was increasingly uncomfortable, that writing it had pushed way too many of my own buttons. I no longer will write such. That’s not a judgement on anyone else, but it was not a good thing for me. I guess that’s the morality thing?

I would say so. That's how I feel. It's just a line I don't feel comfortable crossing. (and non-con is one of my lines as well, so I'm right there with you)

 

[SimonDoom]

The story idea specifically in question this time around, would be hard to get there for me. Because the entire concept of how the scene comes to be is that the husband is home, while the wife is out shopping for Black Friday, and then daughter (over 18 of course) sneaks in and seduces him. I can imagine the entire story...but I can't get myself through the cheating part of it. (I have no issues with the Daddy/Daughter part. My Wife and I are DD/lg so thats not the issue..)

This is the first time I've had a story Idea that I couldn't figure out a way to write past/through the cheating aspect of...

Here's one possibility. Mom and daughter are in it together from the beginning, but this fact isn't revealed until the end. So it turns out that in the end everyone has consented.

I enjoy stories where marital partners have extramarital sex, but I don't usually enjoy stories where somebody is cheated on or nonconsenting. A way of dealing with this is to reveal that the supposedly cheated on partner is not really cheated on but has actively participated in the scheme. I did something like this in my Unwitting Porn Star Wife story.

 

[KeithD]

I don't find porn immoral, or erotica. I just take issue with cheating. Perhaps immoral is the wrong choice of words, but the point is, that I do not like the idea of cheating. I do not do it, and I hope that my wife will not do it either.

Well, then, don't write or read it. That's fine. To me erotica is about turning on sexual arousal with fiction. That can happen with me in many dimensions and situations that I don't condone in real life. And I can take responsibility for myself on what I write and read for posting/publishing while leaving others to their own fetishes. It's just a matter of MYOB.

 

[Rob_Royale]

I managed a very well-received mature woman/younger man, romance story where there was a polyamorous twist to it. Not everyone got it, but the story has a 4.76 rating. I guess people liked it. There are ways to do adventurous married couples without the looming specter of cheating/LW. You've just got to think it through. I look forward to reading whatever you come up with, so let us know how it turns out.

 

[GrantBricksly]

You have no moral problem with incest, group sex, gays, BDSM, non-co etc.
But you do have an issue with infidelity… maybe you're afraid that if you write about it, it might become a self-fulfilling prophecy?

This is the fantasy world. We write and read about things we rarely do in real life. If I visit the incest category, I'll start sleeping with my mother, sister, or daughter?!
WTH

Never said I was worried writing or reading about it would make it happen. Simply said I didn't like it. And as for the other categories you mentioned, Group sex, Gay, BDSM are all consensual: Ie no issues. Incest, as long as everyone is of legal age, and consenting, then for a story, that's fine too. I don't do Non-consent. or even consensual Non Consent. But thats my personal choice.

And again, I feel like you are taking this way off topic. Its not about what I (or you) do or don't find morally objectionable or ok. It was about the dilemma I was having with a story I wanted to write, that was across a line I was unwilling to cross, and unable to find a way around, but still had a desire to write. So, if you have something to add on that topic, please feel free. But let's not continue to debate what we do or do not find to be moral. Because that is a personal decision that we each have to make. And this is hardly the place for that kind of debate.

 

[TarnishedPenny]

I guess the bottom line is Do Harm to None, and that includes the author.

 

[Lifestyle66]

I don't find porn immoral, or erotica. I just take issue with cheating. Perhaps immoral is the wrong choice of words, but the point is, that I do not like the idea of cheating. I do not do it, and I hope that my wife will not do it either.

That being said, when it comes to porn/erotica, whether I like it or not, I am well aware of the fact that "cheating" is going to be hard to avoid, and so I still watch/read it and enjoy the scenes. I just wish it didn't include cheating.

If you have no problem writing the incest part of the daughter sneaking in and seducing her father, then write the story from the daughter's POV. Write the father as being extremely reluctant, but finally falling for her seduction. Then toward the end, have the wife find them and nod to her husband that the wife and husband/father had agreed to it ahead of time, and the daughter just wasn't let in on their secret swinger fetish.

 

[BobbyBrandt]

What I write focuses upon the morals of the characters in the story, not my own.

I have been asked to write about subjects that I personally find difficulty accepting, but I had to do that in college years ago.

Anyone else come up with idea's for stories that they just know would be amazing, and do very well (as far as votes/comments and contests are concerned) but have issues writing them for due to morals?

I have always taken issue with the fact that a lot of stories/porn videos tend to focus on cheating wives, or cheating husbands, etc. Don't get me wrong, I love the scenarios those lead to, but why must it be a wife cheating on her husband? Couldn't it just be a Wife and Husband who are super passionate about each other? I know I am likely in a minority here, and that's why I don't typically do say anything about it. I simply choose not to write things like that.

That being said, I came up with an amazing story idea a few weeks ago for the winter holiday contest, that would have been just fantastic. but for the life of me, I could not figure a way to avoid the "cheating" aspect of it. So, I did not write it.

Anybody else ever have this issue? Anyone else ever not write a good idea for moral objections? Or am I the only one?

 

[Comshaw]

Never said I was worried writing or reading about it would make it happen. Simply said I didn't like it. And as for the other categories you mentioned, Group sex, Gay, BDSM are all consensual: Ie no issues. Incest, as long as everyone is of legal age, and consenting, then for a story, that's fine too. I don't do Non-consent. or even consensual Non Consent. But thats my personal choice.

And again, I feel like you are taking this way off topic. Its not about what I (or you) do or don't find morally objectionable or ok. It was about the dilemma I was having with a story I wanted to write, that was across a line I was unwilling to cross, and unable to find a way around, but still had a desire to write. So, if you have something to add on that topic, please feel free. But let's not continue to debate what we do or do not find to be moral. Because that is a personal decision that we each have to make. And this is hardly the place for that kind of debate.

Hmmmm...so you don't find incest or non-consent objectionable, but do cheating to such an extent you can't even use it in a story? Yeah, I can see how that would be a catch22. But there are a few ways around it. As LS66 said, mutually consensual non-monogamy is one. You didn't comment on his suggestion so I have no idea if you see that in the same light as cheating. It isn't, but some people view both as the same.

If that doesn't work for you, you could always have the couple divorced (amicably) and both staying in the same place, say a huge rental house the whole family is staying in for the holidays. Everyone else is out shopping and the dad is taking a nap.

If you still insist they have to be married and you just can't write about cheating, trash it and go write about something your morals allow you to. There are hundreds of stories waiting to be written. I'm sure you can find one out there you can write about.

If it were me, the thing I'd try to do is figure out why I have no problem with some of the more kinky sexual activities (incest and non-consent) but are so adamantly opposed to a mild one. One that is legal, very prevalent in our society and engaged in by a significant section of the population.

Which ever way you go, I hope it works for you.

Comshaw

 

[JuanaSalsa]

I regularly write stories that make me uncomfortable. Sometimes I read them back and think, my god, why did I write this?

I wrote it because life is uncomfortable. Because shit happens and we all have to find a way to deal with it. Because sometimes it's important to challenge the boundaries of what's considered acceptable. Because context is everything. Because I want my characters to go on a healing journey where the crap hand they've been dealt is resolved into something like happy.

Maybe I write it because I find awkward, challenging, morally questionable situations highly charged with tension and erotic?

I would recommend that you write through your discomfort and take your characters to a resolution that satisfies you. I find it a very cathartic process to solve these problems for my characters. It's almost like saying that any life problems can be solved, if we approach them the right way. Sometimes I leave a story without resolution, but not usually.

 

[SimonDoom]

Based on the way you have phrased the question, no.

I'm pretty darn open-minded about erotica. My imagination and my preferences are a big tent. But there are a few things I would not write for moral reasons: pedophilia, snuff, torture (although nonconsent and BDSM are fine with me). But I have no reason to believe those topics would do especially well here. My guess is that with some of this stuff you might get a lot of readers but the voters would give them trash scores.

As far as the stuff that Literotica allows, and that tends to do well in terms of scores or views, nope. I have no objection whatsoever. Some of the BTB stories bother me, but I've thought about writing my own version of a BTB story, which would be very different from the norm and not at all incel-ish.

I don't condone cheating (I define cheating as extramarital play without the knowledge and consent of the marital partner -- if there's knowledge and consent it's not cheating) in real life but I have no problem with it as an erotic fantasy. Many people like to fantasize about cheating, or about being cheated on. Fine with me.

 

[Voboy]

The advice I always give people is the same as the advice I give myself: write what you'd like to read.

So if you don't like reading about cheating, don't write that. Perfectly fine. Nobody should judge you.

BUT! If the Muse is trying to convince you to write about cheating, you might want to face the possibility that at some level, you ARE interested in cheating stories. And you're unhappy about it, because you personally find cheating repugnant. I get that: it's simple cognitive dissonance. Your actions and your attitudes aren't coinciding.

So you need to figure out how you want to resolve your cognitive dissonance.

You can write the story and figure out how to rationalize that. Or you can just not write the story, but always wonder whether you might have. I'd pick the former, but that's just me. I do have lines that I don't care to cross in my own writing (or reading), and yes there are times when I'm tempted to cross them. Sometimes I've even started the stories that result from those temptations.

The stories seldom really work well. But at least I tried. So I don't have the "what-if" over my head.