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[Netzach]

Again this proves my initial point.

If someone says "I don't appreciate that you're mocking the hello kitty vibrator people mercilessly" guess what, you have not been sent to a dissident cell to rot.

No one's forcing you to respect anything. You don't *have to do* jack shit. You only have to deal with someone who thinks differently from you and holy shit, how dare they say it.

The number of times you point out that it's your RIGHT to be a dick to anyone you choose only highlights that, it doesn't serve the first amendment.

 

[Recidiva]

I must have those threads on ignore or something. All I see on the GB is a ritualized dance of insults between people who have their minds made up beforehand. I almost never get a sense of dialog or mutual respect.

I post here, in the GB, in the Author's Hangout, and there is boardism, sir. Boardism.

Right here in River City.

I ask lots of questions on the GB and get lots of good answers. So I guess I'm just lucky and I'll be grateful.

 

[rosco rathbone]

No one's forcing you to respect anything. You don't *have to do* jack shit. You only have to deal with someone who thinks differently from you and holy shit, how dare they say it.

This is starting to remind me of a game I used to play with my little brother where I'd get him all mad and then order him to get mad and then laugh because he'd "obeyed" me.

 

[rosco rathbone]

I post here, in the GB, in the Author's Hangout, and there is boardism, sir. Boardism.

Right here in River City.

I ask lots of questions on the GB and get lots of good answers. So I guess I'm just lucky and I'll be grateful.

That board with the sixteen fluffy threads is the devil's tool.

 

[satindesire]

I must have those threads on ignore or something. All I see on the GB is a ritualized dance of insults between people who have their minds made up beforehand. I almost never get a sense of dialog or mutual respect.

One of the three reasons I left.

 

[Recidiva]

Again this proves my initial point.

If someone says "I don't appreciate that you're mocking the hello kitty vibrator people mercilessly" guess what, you have not been sent to a dissident cell to rot.

No one's forcing you to respect anything. You don't *have to do* jack shit. You only have to deal with someone who thinks differently from you and holy shit, how dare they say it.

The number of times you point out that it's your RIGHT to be a dick to anyone you choose only highlights that, it doesn't serve the first amendment.

If I point out why I don't understand why I have to respect kink but not a separate culture of - say - the GB, and you can trash the GB and "those people" as well as vanilla people and boring people and non-kinky people.

I'm pointing out that the "respect for culture" is not a universal thing, it's tailored. In my experience.

I do figure things out, and I continue to point out discrepancies in my experience and in stated logic and practice and exploration of "the unwritten rules" not only of people in a culture, but what they think their culture is, and why they try to enforce it.

I don't believe I have a right to be a dick, but I do believe I have the right to have a unique opinion and to express it, and to then take my lumps.

I'm fine with people disliking me and agreeing with me and the only thing I'm actually after is some straight answers that make sense.

I'm not here to torture anyone or mock anyone or just "be a dick" for fun. But I do get to think about it my way.

If you're going to respect kink, but not dissenting opinion on that kink...why?

And if it's "BECAUSE!" then I can respect that as much as I choose.

In some cases, respect is earned or it's lost upon first contact.

I don't come here to point and laugh, but it's always ticklish to see people pointing and laughing at the GB.

 

[Recidiva]

That board with the sixteen fluffy threads is the devil's tool.

I'm sorry...I have to do it...

"Devil's Tool!"

I'm dancing too. I'll work my way to Shipoopie soon. Just you wait.

 

[rosco rathbone]

I'm sorry...I have to do it...

"Devil's Tool!"

I'm dancing too. I'll work my way to Shipoopie soon. Just you wait.

Probably my all time favorite moment in musical theater.

 

[Recidiva]

Probably my all time favorite moment in musical theater.

You have good taste!

You win today's round of "Stuck In Her Head" - A Melodic Meme.

 

[Kajira Callista]

In one of the threads recently moved from here to the Personals, Kajira made a sarky comment about something I'd said. I replied, she followed up over private messages, and this thread was created.

Sorry darlin' it ain't about you. It's about me.

 

[Kajira Callista]

Thanks eveyone for the replies and giggles etc.
This wasn't about this Mister sir person even if he wants to think it is. It was about me being worried I was doing something wrong by being me and that would mean I would not want to be mod here anymore.
I feel the general opinion is you want me to be me and mod and i appreciate that.

 

[MisterSir]

Sorry darlin' it ain't about you. It's about me.

Oh.

Well, this was an anti-climax. I'll just go shoot myself.

 

[Recidiva]

Thanks eveyone for the replies and giggles etc.
This wasn't about this Mister sir person even if he wants to think it is. It was about me being worried I was doing something wrong by being me and that would mean I would not want to be mod here anymore.
I feel the general opinion is you want me to be me and mod and i appreciate that.

It is about you and that's the correct impression at least from my part

Thank you for caring enough about the position to care about what we think of it. That is probably why you're good at your job.

It may be thankless in general, but you have my thanks in specific.

 

[graceanne]

No, I don't, and I would be disappointed if you suddenly posted differently.

 

[graceanne]

The GB is still modded. Spam is removed and people are kicked for violating site rules.

It's just that it's modded by either Laurel, Manu or someone delegated by them to handle it, and it's anonymous.

I don't see why mods need to be named. That way they could do their job just as it's done on the GB anonymously, and not take any heat personally. I'd prefer that for the Mod's sake as well as those on the board who might take offense.

I like this idea.

Either way, I can't imagine KC being that snarky or bitchy. Off hand I think MS is being a bit over sensitive.

 

[Netzach]

The rest of the world outside the little niches that fringe sexualities hack out for themselves are pro-vanilla and uncomfortable with kink. Taking away a space where you can't trash talk kink isn't doing the world some kind of equal time favor. When vanilla straight people can lose their fucking jobs, come back and tell me things are unfair because of a porn board with mores in favor of kink.


I don't think the GB is a bunch of morons, but it's rather heavy on spleen, and you can trash things there without being taken to task for it by all and sundry. Hence my "laugh about it on the GB" comment. Not "ewww, we might get more like the GB, ewwww."

If anything I prefer "hey you're a dick" to "I wish I could ignore that dick who isn't posting here." GB rules in some ways.

 

[WriterDom]

Mods are just glorified thread movers. I'd much rather not know who they are. Then we wouldn't be having this discussion. And it sucks that you can't put them on ignore. When they are trolling you.

 

[Sir_Winston54]

Thanks eveyone for the replies and giggles etc.
This wasn't about this Mister sir person even if he wants to think it is. It was about me being worried I was doing something wrong by being me and that would mean I would not want to be mod here anymore.
I feel the general opinion is you want me to be me and mod and i appreciate that.

If being a mod meant you couldn't be yourself, we wouldn't want you to be moderator. Who/what you *are* is what made you a good candidate and will make you a good mod for as long as you want to do it.

 

[the captians wench]

I'm sorry...I have to do it...

"Devil's Tool!"

I'm dancing too. I'll work my way to Shipoopie soon. Just you wait.

I love Shipoopie!

Was my big dance number

 

[minx1]

I think that's more kinda the unspoken board culture here. I can see the downside, but at the same time, the arguments here, while passionate, seem to be far more productive than those on the GB. It's a good culture, it works.

I must have those threads on ignore or something. All I see on the GB is a ritualized dance of insults between people who have their minds made up beforehand. I almost never get a sense of dialog or mutual respect.

One of the three reasons I left.

*nods* I agree.

I'm not ashamed to say I wouldn't like the BDSM forum morphing into the GB. There's already one forum on here where you can go to insult people or bitch.

I actually find it tedious apart from anything else, when someone can't put together an argument or put forward a view without having to resort to idiotic insults.

I like the fact that here there can be differing opinions here, but generally there is a sense of respect. I like to think this board is inclusive and openminded.

I have no problem with differing opinionswhatsoever...they make things much more interesting. Its the smart alec, just for the sake of it, rude oneliners that I'm not so keen on.

 

[Sir_Winston54]

.... Its the smart alec, just for the sake of it, rude oneliners that I'm not so keen on.

I'm sorry.

 

[minx1]

I'm sorry.

*snorts*

 

[graceanne]

If being a mod meant you couldn't be yourself, we wouldn't want you to be moderator. Who/what you *are* is what made you a good candidate and will make you a good mod for as long as you want to do it.

Well put.

 

[Recidiva]

The rest of the world outside the little niches that fringe sexualities hack out for themselves are pro-vanilla and uncomfortable with kink. Taking away a space where you can't trash talk kink isn't doing the world some kind of equal time favor. When vanilla straight people can lose their fucking jobs, come back and tell me things are unfair because of a porn board with mores in favor of kink.


I don't think the GB is a bunch of morons, but it's rather heavy on spleen, and you can trash things there without being taken to task for it by all and sundry. Hence my "laugh about it on the GB" comment. Not "ewww, we might get more like the GB, ewwww."

If anything I prefer "hey you're a dick" to "I wish I could ignore that dick who isn't posting here." GB rules in some ways.

Okay, that's cool. I agree with that. I'm really not out to change anything. I am only testing the edges of this choice in its extremes. What are your opinion on someone who is kinky and likes to dress up as Sarah Palin and think she's hot and the epitome of grace and dignity and reason? Does your avatar insult them and break your convictions? That's not supposed to be a serious question, by the way. That's just one of those things that I think and it just means that people are whole beings, insulted in various ways that can come sideways at them, unintentionally and just part of where I think it's hard to have strong opinions and respect everyone else's simultaneously. You never really know whether or not just expressing opinions in general are going to insult someone's kink.

Respect and keeping my mouth shut is one thing. I can do that. (really!) But I try not to be a hypocrite and I won't say I respect something if I don't, and I don't necessarily see where my opinion counts for all that much. That might be my error in calculation. My question isn't so much about absolutes as it is about complications.

I guess I see people as wholes, very often with large swaths of what I might consider messed up and large swaths of what's too cool for me to comprehend. Sometimes doing silly, dangerous things. I'm not going to intervene, but I also don't see the harm in saying something's silly or dangerous in my opinion because...I'm here to talk.

The borders of where respect ends and why it does interest me. Respecting everything (and I do know that's not what you're proposing) is not my choice. Same as forgiving everything or saying I understand everything is not my choice either. I want these choices to be reasoned, or for me they have no meaning. I think there are circumstances where respecting, understanding or providing support unconditionally can be irresponsible. I do grant people free will to do silly, dangerous things, certainly to themselves, certainly consensually, but having me agree with it or doing it to me is another matter.

I understand and respect the necessity for safety, particularly in people who are feeling there's no safe place for them to go. There's nothing but admirable in that. Again, not the issue (not MY issue anyway.) I know there are people that laugh at anything different than what they know. But that IS different from my Hello Kitty and yodeling thing, which is supposed to be funny in a different way. Equating the two types of laughter - "it's different and that's bad" and "That is some weird-ass shit in my opinion" are two different things. I'm just looking for a recognition of that distinction. And if I don't get it, no big deal. But I find that they can blur together.

I like to have a choice of saying "hey you're a dick" or "wow, you're the fucking coolest thing ever." I can continue to partake of the coolest thing ever, and if I have asked as many questions as I want to about the dick in question (dick being specific to me and not a universal judgment that "this person should be a dick in everyone's book") at a certain point I will just not want to talk to them any more because I'm probably antagonizing them and I'd prefer to not be a troll. Ignore is my reminder that I've probably seeen enough and there's no more for me to say that could be positive or productive.

But again I advocate just having the choices to say what I think and then deal with what happens. Or not say what I think and not be harassed over it. Over time, my thoughts change and I have the opportunity to become more educated regarding the things that interest me.

 

[Homburg]

"I'm sorry" is called socialization. It's not a form of state run oppression when people expect it of you.

Very much so.

And I think that is the longest post I've seen from you.

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The GB is still modded. Spam is removed and people are kicked for violating site rules.

It's just that it's modded by either Laurel, Manu or someone delegated by them to handle it, and it's anonymous.

I don't see why mods need to be named. That way they could do their job just as it's done on the GB anonymously, and not take any heat personally. I'd prefer that for the Mod's sake as well as those on the board who might take offense.

I am a mod on one of my favourite little boards, and, in that case, I am anonymously moddy. It works fabulously.

On that board, I am a mod largely because the owner likes me, respects my opinions, and, most importantly, I'm in the US. It is a Brit board, so everyone is six hours ahead. My usual surf time is in the middle of the night for them, and it means I can catch spambots when others won't be able to see them. Insofar as active modding goes, I move posts, threads, etc. I don't need to reveal what I am doing generally.

It is not secret, but it is also not blatant. I appreciate that structure.

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Insofar as KC goes, darlin, there is no reason to change how you post. I certainly don't get the impression that Cat self-moderates all that much because she has a mod tag. Your job is primarily to move threads to the proper boards, and toss spammers, right? No onus on you to somehow represent Laurel or Manu or Lit in some high-falutin' way.

Just be you. Let everyone else sort it out for themselves.