Mind Control

Whisky7up

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I notice the MC category has a small number of stories here compared to, say, BDSM...but quite a large number of votes... considerably more than BDSM.

If there are a lot of people voting on them...and presumably a lot of people reading them....why so few MC stories?

What makes a good MC tale?
 
Whisky7up said:
I notice the MC category has a small number of stories here compared to, say, BDSM...but quite a large number of votes... considerably more than BDSM.

If there are a lot of people voting on them...and presumably a lot of people reading them....why so few MC stories?

What makes a good MC tale?

Welcome to the AH, Whisky7up! :rose:

My guess is that it's a case of cult interest. The people that are into it are very into it. The people that aren't, aren't. Hence the reading and voting.

I'd also venture to say that writing MC takes quite a bit more plot development and story weaving than the average piece of erotica based on vanilla sex.

Just my guess. I'm interested in the genre as well but haven't had time to delve into it.

~lucky
 
It is actually on my list to try and write for. but I have 3 other's that I must get unstuck first and two of them are in new categories for me...
 
Whisky7up said:
I notice the MC category has a small number of stories here compared to, say, BDSM...but quite a large number of votes... considerably more than BDSM.

If there are a lot of people voting on them...and presumably a lot of people reading them....why so few MC stories?

What makes a good MC tale?

My theory is that many are uncertain exactly what the term 'mind control' entails. Some might assume it specifically directed towards hypnosis, and thus be hesitant to post stories in that particular section.

I find I have more success simply surfing the descriptions on the BDSM section to find the sort of read I might enjoy.
 
I have written 3 Mind Control stories 'Hypnotic', 'Intent' and 'Saree Wrap' - See link in my sig line.

Yes, they have more views than my other stories, except incest.

They are not highly rated. Aficionados of Mind Control seem to like particular versions of it and usually Man controls Woman into becoming his nymphomaniac sex slave. In my three the women exercise the mind control and no one gets mind-blowing sex.

Perhaps that's where I went wrong?

Og
 
I have written 4 MC stories so far and have a couple in the works. They all seemed to collect votes and views faster than any other catagory.

From what I have seen MC has a fairly small but very devoted following but a fairly small number of authors. THis makes the number of reads/views a little dispraportionate when compared to some of the other catagories.

I can't really see why MC would be any harder to write than say BDSM or Lez. As with any genre, you can write a well composed, well thought out complete fleshed out story... or you can jump righ into the sex if you just want to write stroke.

My stories were quite well recieved until I picked up a nasty troll infestation. But they were also quite long, most were 3-4 Lit pages wich translates to about 10k words each. I really tried to fill in the characters and give some background for the story. I got a lot of positive feedback and very good votes. But I also got some feedback from people who said they were too long. So no matter what you do, you wont please everybody.

I think the best thing for any story is originality. Try to make it different somehow. The standard, "guy hypnos girl, makes her want him" had been done a million times in MC. A defferent spin on then standard can make a world of difference in the votes.

Hope that helps.
 
china-doll said:
I think the best thing for any story is originality. Try to make it different somehow. The standard, "guy hypnos girl, makes her want him" had been done a million times in MC. A defferent spin on then standard can make a world of difference in the votes.
Originality is always good for a story, but if your goal is not to write a good story but to get a good rating, you better not innovate too much. Niche readers have expectations, and if you don't deliver exactly what they expect, you're more likely to get 1s than in any generalist category.

I have only one MC Story (Plastic Love, in my signature) and yes, it has more views and votes than any other. It's my best story (and worst rated), but it plays (literally and deliberately) with the MC-core readers' expectations, so the result was interesting, to say the least: 90% of the votes are either 5s or 1s.
 
I just have one MC story -- and it hinges on the irresitable and unexpected aphrodisiac qualities of rainfall. It was very well received in the category, even though it's not "niche" per se. It's also my longest & most plot/character developed story to date.
 
My MC story did well. Not sure if it plays to the nice readers in the cat. I didn't notice the reads/votes being significantly diferent. I would think the stories in cat are more intricate and the readers demand more developement. A with some fetish stuff, you are working in MC with dual vectors, both control and eroticism. It takes perhaps more disciplen to write as you have to give both enough play to satisfy the reader, rather than being able to concentrate your efforts on a strictly visceral response.

-Colly
 
Lauren Hynde said:
Originality is always good for a story, but if your goal is not to write a good story but to get a good rating, you better not innovate too much. Niche readers have expectations, and if you don't deliver exactly what they expect, you're more likely to get 1s than in any generalist category.

Good point. You want to be different enough that your story stands out some from the general background. But not so different that you alienate the readers you are going for.

It seems to me that the MC loyalists are a fairly receptive crowd to alterations on the major themes. Far more so than say, the Loving Wives catagory, in which any misstep results in 1 bomb oblivion. As long as there is some form of mind control, its erotic and the story is well written it should do fairly well.

But it also seems that the more direct the control in the story is, the better the ratings. So that might also be something to keep in mind.
 
china-doll said:
Far more so than say, the Loving Wives catagory, in which any misstep results in 1 bomb oblivion.
Oh, that's a different category altogether. Any step at all, mis- or not, will result in 1 bombs. :D
 
Thanks for the responses. Funnily enough, I have almost completed an MC story and it already incorporates the suggestions.
I had been concerned at the low number of MC submissions and while I am not chasing votes, there's not much satisfaction in writing something if it doesn't get noticed.
 
I wrote an MC story — well more of an anti-MC story.

At the moment it is also my lowest-rated story, either because it double-crosses readers’ expectations of a MC story, because it is a lousy story, or possibly for both reasons.

For all I know, there may have even been a contingent of 1-bomb trolls at work on it. How do you tell?



:confused:
 
I was thinkin about writing an MC story. (Colly had taken control of my mind and innocent, virginal body and forced me to ....) thats usually as far as I get before I have to take a break to cool off. Anybody got any suggestions?
 
Lisa Denton said:
I was thinkin about writing an MC story. (Colly had taken control of my mind and innocent, virginal body and forced me to ....) thats usually as far as I get before I have to take a break to cool off. Anybody got any suggestions?

LOL<

Now that would be fun :p
 
Lisa Denton said:
I was thinkin about writing an MC story. (Colly had taken control of my mind and innocent, virginal body and forced me to ....) thats usually as far as I get before I have to take a break to cool off. Anybody got any suggestions?


Colly has instructed you to write an MC story and not leave the desk until it's done :)
 
Whisky7up said:
Colly has instructed you to write an MC story and not leave the desk until it's done :)
I shall do the complete the opposite.

Or, on one of those A4. . .
 
This is one category I've never looked at or even contemplated writing within, and I don't even know why! The subject matter does interest me, so I think I'll go and have a look at some of the stories there.

I'm not sure I'd find it a huge turn on, though, because a lot of the "being used or coerced" into doing something is a great turn on for me, when it is done with the knowledge and complete consciousness of the person being subjected to such things. If it happens to me, for example, I wanna know all about it and remember it!

Actually, thinking about it, maybe I have written a mind control piece, only it was part of a Chain Story, so ended up in that category. It's The Zodiac Girls, Chapter 12. It's quite a dark and chilling, but hot (to me), tale of a young woman whose mind is completely taken over and she is powerless to prevent her fate. That has had the fewest views and votes of all my stories, by a long way.

Lou
 
Tatelou said:
This is one category I've never looked at or even contemplated writing within, and I don't even know why! The subject matter does interest me, so I think I'll go and have a look at some of the stories there.

I'm not sure I'd find it a huge turn on, though, because a lot of the "being used or coerced" into doing something is a great turn on for me, when it is done with the knowledge and complete consciousness of the person being subjected to such things. If it happens to me, for example, I wanna know all about it and remember it! Lou


You may enjoy some of them then!!!
I recall reading many where the person is fully aware of what is happening, but is unable to resist ;)
 
Whisky7up said:
You may enjoy some of them then!!!
I recall reading many where the person is fully aware of what is happening, but is unable to resist ;)

Aha! Yes, I should have realised that. Ok, then, yep, sounds like my kind of thing!!! Thanks. :devil: :D :devil:
 
Burley: I've read your MC story before. It's good and I do like the twist, but it does feel like you're parodying the entire genre, which is a risky thing to do. It's funny, but maybe not in the right places - the readers aren't expecting you to poke fun at the main character that way. It'd be like opening a BDSM story and the Sub is laughing hysterically at the dom attempt to be commanding. Amusing, but not what you'd expect and kinda offputting. Good story though.

Whisky: Mind control is my favourite category to both read and write, but I'm sad to say that there are few good ones around. I'm in favour of the kind of thing that Lou and you are into: where the victim is forced to do things against their will, but is well aware of what's happening to them and unable to stop it. Far, far too often, I've seen the boy-wants-girl, boy-can't-get-girl, boy-goes-to-chemistry-lab-and-perfects-formula, boy-gets-sex-slave. To me that's the equivalent of snuff. Okay he's got the girl, but she's effectively dead as a character.

"Suck my dick."

"Yes Master."

<slurp>


Where's the challenge? Where's the conflict in that story?

It is at this point that I will apologise for 'One Cup Of Coffee' which is a perfect example of the above and has the saving grace of being fairly short. It was one of my first Lit stories and not one I'm proud of.

I like seeing aphrodisiacs where someone is made horny beyond belief. They know they're being forced, but their body's doing all sorts of delicious things while the mind's going "Help, help, help, mmmm that's actually quite nice, help!" And would it kill people to write an MC story where the girl controls the guy? I have that on my to-do list, but time is not my friend at current and I love to read good MC, even above writing it.

My MC stories which I am proud of include 'Sarah Meets Satyr,' 'Seducing Dawn,' 'Comfort Food' and 'Hypnotising Justin.' Only one of these is actually in the MC category, simply because I think that another aspect of the story is more to the fore, but they contain better MC writing than a lot of the ones in the category itself. Anyone else got any hidden MC stories like this?

The Earl
 
Colleen Thomas said:
try mine lou! :)


I think I am bein all mind controlled!!!!!!!!

I keep hearin Colly sayin "try mine, try mine" over and over and I am lustin after her body shamelessly and hopefully.
 
Lisa Denton said:
I think I am bein all mind controlled!!!!!!!!

I keep hearin Colly sayin "try mine, try mine" over and over and I am lustin after her body shamelessly and hopefully.

Nope, that's perfectly normal.

The Earl
 
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