Mental Illness

[Sweetdaisymae]

DGE, that is exactly what my depression demands of me, only I call it my boulders. I am in a huge boulder strewn field, surrounded on all sides, some of them are seemingly insurmountable. I am safer if I stay put, don't try to climb or chisel my way out.
It sucks!!

 

[FurryFury]

When is it time to institutionalize? I've never wanted to do that but when you child says, "I shouldn't be expected to remember to take my meds." I think we are getting close.

When she doesn't know how much she is eating of things that make her reflux, TMJ and weight a problem.

When she doesn't know that she is constantly doing things that make messes, breaks things and breaks household rules.

When you interfere with her "reality" by being worried about her and showing her the facts of what she has actually done vrs what she thinks she hasn't done, she calls you "bitchy".

I am not being bitchy I am giving a damn about you and scared to death. Why don't you give a damn about yourself?

In her own mind, she is always right. Everyone else is always wrong.

 

[marieR19]

Furry: imo, it depends how bad each of those situations are.

My mother reminds me every day to take my pills, especially my afternoon ones. I'd never remember without the reminders. But that's okay, because I am taking them.

The "bitchy" thing... When my mom is worried about me, or trying to explain a situation to me that I don't agree with, it often comes off as "bitchy" or "nagging" in my eyes, even when that's not her intention at all.

The others, I'm not sure about. When she makes messes/breaks things and "doesn't know", do you mean she doesn't remember later? Or she sees the just-broken glass and doesn't know she *just* did it? I'm not totally sure what the differences are, but the two situations may be activating different parts of the brain, so depending which situation you are talking about... *is just typing as I think*

If you are in a position where you can limit/choose her food intake (make meals, hide/lock up certain snacks, etc) that might help with the eating problems.

*HUGS* Good luck.

 

[FurryFury]

I keep no junk food around the house. I have to hide some food, it's the only way to keep her from eating it all. That makes me freak out a bit.

I'm not sure what is going on with her "not knowing" she has broken something or made a mess. It's obvious, but I get the sense that she has so much going on in her mind (hopefully some healing) that she chooses not to notice 97% of what is actually going on in the world or she literally can't notice. Not sure which. Otherwise, everything going on would get to be too much.

 

[catalina_francisco]

When is it time to institutionalize? I've never wanted to do that but when you child says, "I should be expected to remember to take my meds." I think we are getting close.

When she doesn't know how much she is eating of things that make her reflux, TMJ and weight a problem.

When she doesn't know that she is constantly doing things that make messes, breaks things and breaks household rules.

When you interfere with her "reality" by being worried about her and showing her the facts of what she has actually done vrs what she thinks she hasn't done, she calls you "bitchy".

I am not being bitchy I am giving a damn about you and scared to death. Why don't you give a damn about yourself?

In her own mind, she is always right. Everyone else is always wrong.

I feel for you and can relate more than you might think. Hope you find a way through this that works for all and hurts you minimally.

Catalina

 

[Sweetdaisymae]

Furry Fury, is it possible she has medical issues at play as much as mental health, thyroid, prada willi etc?
Huge hugs xxxx

 

[FurryFury]

Yes. She is getting a complete neuro work up due to suspected brain damage in the new year. Of course it's in the new year so we can start paying out out of pocket expenses all over again on her. LOL

Even though doctors tell us very little of what I think they should. Even though I feel I have to research and uncover possibilities, I do hope that the work up gives me some solid ideas about what she can and can't do.

I'd hate to be unfair and expect more out of her than she can actually do.

OTOH, I don't want to expect nothing out of her either. I want her to be able to function as an independent, individuals who contributions in a positive way to society if at all possible.

I won't be around forever to clean up after her, fix what she constantly breaks, fill her med box, pay her bills, take her to doctors appoints, remind her to take her meds, insist that she clean up from time to time, and shop for her, after all.

Furry Fury, is it possible she has medical issues at play as much as mental health, thyroid, prada willi etc?
Huge hugs xxxx

 

[DeepGreenEyes]

DGE, that is exactly what my depression demands of me, only I call it my boulders. I am in a huge boulder strewn field, surrounded on all sides, some of them are seemingly insurmountable. I am safer if I stay put, don't try to climb or chisel my way out.
It sucks!!

Indeed. This idea of struggles as metaphor is intriguing. How else are we to make sense of stuff that seems perplexing much of the time?

Your vision reminds me of the book series, "The Maze Runner." Now I think I missed a lot of symbolism in the book.

When is it time to institutionalize? I've never wanted to do that but when you child says, "I shouldn't be expected to remember to take my meds." I think we are getting close.

When she doesn't know how much she is eating of things that make her reflux, TMJ and weight a problem.

When she doesn't know that she is constantly doing things that make messes, breaks things and breaks household rules.

When you interfere with her "reality" by being worried about her and showing her the facts of what she has actually done vrs what she thinks she hasn't done, she calls you "bitchy".

I am not being bitchy I am giving a damn about you and scared to death. Why don't you give a damn about yourself?

In her own mind, she is always right. Everyone else is always wrong.

I got nothing but .

 

[Sweetdaisymae]

Massive mood drop today, well this evening. I find myself sitting here in floods of tears for no real reason.
Depression sucks.

 

[ecstaticsub]

I would start investigating treatment facilities now just in case. i know around here there are no hospitals that I would trust for a adolescent. We found my son a clinic where if he gets worst he can stay during the day and then come home to sleep. We aren't at that point (hopefully won't ever be) but we wanted to get something lined up. Perhaps consider a partial hospital situation?

When is it time to institutionalize? I've never wanted to do that but when you child says, "I shouldn't be expected to remember to take my meds." I think we are getting close.

When she doesn't know how much she is eating of things that make her reflux, TMJ and weight a problem.

When she doesn't know that she is constantly doing things that make messes, breaks things and breaks household rules.

When you interfere with her "reality" by being worried about her and showing her the facts of what she has actually done vrs what she thinks she hasn't done, she calls you "bitchy".

I am not being bitchy I am giving a damn about you and scared to death. Why don't you give a damn about yourself?

In her own mind, she is always right. Everyone else is always wrong.

 

[FurryFury]

Good idea. Things are somewhat better now that she started taking her meds again. But I should do that. I agree most facilities are horrible. I've seen how they treated my mother like a sub human / child.

I would start investigating treatment facilities now just in case. i know around here there are no hospitals that I would trust for a adolescent. We found my son a clinic where if he gets worst he can stay during the day and then come home to sleep. We aren't at that point (hopefully won't ever be) but we wanted to get something lined up. Perhaps consider a partial hospital situation?

 

[elli1]

I suffer from mental health issues and I actually think that both my sexual preferences and mental health issues are (partly) related and result from things that happened in my past

 

[Sweetdaisymae]

Next week is my last CBT, my therapist is going to refer me for further counselling, but of a different sort.

 

[FurryFury]

Certainly environment can have a big effect.

I scanned the book Grain Brain this week. I wish we could heal all mental issues with diet but some how I just don't buy it.

Anytime someone says X fixes or causes "all things" I tend to think they are full of it.

I suffer from mental health issues and I actually think that both my sexual preferences and mental health issues are (partly) related and result from things that happened in my past

 

[FurryFury]

How has it gone with CBT?

Do you know what kind of therapy you are being referred to?

Next week is my last CBT, my therapist is going to refer me for further counselling, but of a different sort.

 

[FurryFury]

After four hours of neurological testing on my girl yesterday, testing that I told her to get a good night's sleep and shower for, she says, "I need to take my morning meds." Doh!?!

 

[FurryFury]

I took my girl in for the results of the four hour neurological testing. The results were good but don't indicate brain damage like we thought. Yay!

So the doctor thinks she has something like schizophrenia. I know that can be managed but it scares the crap out of me. It also isn't something that is likely to result in her being more independent of me any time soon if at all. And at 23 I really want her to be able to lead an independent, contributing to society, kind of life but I guess we still have a lot to find out before know if that will ever be possible.

Last Wednesday I took her to her apartment for two nights. Everyone else in our home just relaxed and came together so warmly without her around. We love her but she is so difficult in so many ways. It breaks my heart.

 

[gypsy*seer]

Hugs and really good thoughts out to you, FF. Being a caregiver is freaking hard.


I know this is the "mental illness" thread, but does anyone know of any sort of support group for those who live with people with chronic pain?
Aside from being caregiver to my mother, S. is the one with chronic pain. It's getting so very hard to try to put it into perspective. My feelings get hurt every day, even though I know it's not about me. All I want to do is help any way I can, but nothing I do or say ever seems to be the right thing. This girl is really not a pretty crier...

 

[FurryFury]

*HUGS*

Check with local agencies, hospitals, the meet up groups, there might be a support group for you. I hope so.

Hugs and really good thoughts out to you, FF. Being a caregiver is freaking hard.


I know this is the "mental illness" thread, but does anyone know of any sort of support group for those who live with people with chronic pain?
Aside from being caregiver to my mother, S. is the one with chronic pain. It's getting so very hard to try to put it into perspective. My feelings get hurt every day, even though I know it's not about me. All I want to do is help any way I can, but nothing I do or say ever seems to be the right thing. This girl is really not a pretty crier...

 

[marieR19]

That's actually a really good question, gypsy*seer. I'd think that there'd probably be support groups out there like that, since there are so many people in that situation, but I've never heard of one.

Update on self: Sunday I had a *huge* meltdown, basically the worst I've ever been without actually going to the hospital. Hysterical out of control crying for over a half hour, literally unable to speak or even move (so coping skills were out of the question). Really-bad-cutting eventually helped me calm down, but I was so out of it that I couldn't even do *that* for over a half hour.

Meds have been changed yet again, treatment team keeping a close eye on me this week, etc, but it feels like nothing. I almost *wanted* to go inpatient after Sunday night just to have *something*... something happen... Something should've *changed* after such a huge meltdown, but all that has changed is stupid meds again. I'm fast running out of hope and passed any type of motivation/will/determination awhile ago.

 

[gypsy*seer]

*HUGS*

Check with local agencies, hospitals, the meet up groups, there might be a support group for you. I hope so.

That's actually a really good question, gypsy*seer. I'd think that there'd probably be support groups out there like that, since there are so many people in that situation, but I've never heard of one.

Thank you! At least it's a start in the right direction...

Update on self: Sunday I had a *huge* meltdown

I'm fast running out of hope and passed any type of motivation/will/determination awhile ago.

Marie, don't give in - don't give up. I hope you can find the strength within, and just hold on,
one
moment
at
a
time.

 

[FurryFury]

Totally agree with gypsyseer, never lose hope or give in even if you do.

*HUGS and HUGS*

 

[Curious_in_Cali]

Hugs and really good thoughts out to you, FF. Being a caregiver is freaking hard.


I know this is the "mental illness" thread, but does anyone know of any sort of support group for those who live with people with chronic pain?
Aside from being caregiver to my mother, S. is the one with chronic pain. It's getting so very hard to try to put it into perspective. My feelings get hurt every day, even though I know it's not about me. All I want to do is help any way I can, but nothing I do or say ever seems to be the right thing. This girl is really not a pretty crier...

A big hug to you, gypsy!

There is a reason the airplane safety demonstrations tell you to put your own mask on before helping others that may need it. If you are not able to breathe you are going to be no help at all. Do not forgo your own care simply because someone else is suffering. If you get selfish enough to fill yourself back up however you can, it will allow you the energy to be and feel more sustainable supportive.

I know for me it was hard because I was "not sick", so I had expectations to burden more. But ultimately I was only human and got very tired and then sick and useless. Looking back I wish I would have reached out for help much sooner. It would have helped us both cope with things that were beyond our ability to understand let alone cope with.

You can't give what you do not have, so get what you need ASAP! I definitely recommend counseling for just you so you can parse out some room for your own emotions and heartaches which are at the very least as valid as anyone you are caring for. Please honor that and take care of YOU.

 

[Curious_in_Cali]

Marie, I am sorry that you are struggling so much right now. It is so hard for us to find hope when it feels so dark. Until you find yours again, I will hope that something that you are looking for and need comes to you very soon. It will get better, just keep on with the steps you can handle. That is enough.

Big hug!

 

[Muscadine_Eyes]

FurryFury, there are meds available in shot form now. I think one shot can last for a whole month or at least a couple of weeks.