Men are PIGS

[CharleyH]

She taunts, she teases, she roars.

Have I seen evidence of this pleasurable abuse as of yet?

Hmmm????

You're gonna have to do better than that, baby.

Beg and maybe

 

[CharleyH]

OK so Sarahh distracted me - back to the question. I believe more men than women have fetishes.

 

[Goldie Munro]

OK so Sarahh distracted me - back to the question. I believe more men than women have fetishes.

Hmmm dunno - maybe men have more different fetishes?

 

[CharleyH]

Hmmm dunno - maybe men have more different fetishes?

tell me yours and I will objectively decide

PS women dont have fetishes!

 

[Guest]

It is my belief that women's fetish is for "idealized" sex...often a romanticed notion of sex....which too often is not what is "real" sex (meaning too rarely commonplace).

As the Dr. explained that it is a well known fact that more men have fetishes. Probably so...he's a doctor, right?

as for me, a man, not metrosexual (like Belegon) though an "honorary girlie man"....I like wild passionate animalistic sex...I like romantic sex...I like anal sex...I like costumed sex (mostly her in costume)...I like pantyhose (mostly her..but like how they look on me)...I like toys...do not care for diapers, like highheels on her, but could not get off on shoes alone...


I have "preferences"...but no "fetishes" as the Dr. described.

 

[CharleyH]

It is my belief that women's fetish is for "idealized" sex...often a romanticed notion of sex....which too often is not what is "real" sex (meaning too rarely commonplace).

As the Dr. explained that it is a well known fact that more men have fetishes. Probably so...he's a doctor, right?

as for me, a man, not metrosexual (like Belegon) though an "honorary girlie man"....I like wild passionate animalistic sex...I like romantic sex...I like anal sex...I like costumed sex (mostly her in costume)...I like pantyhose (mostly her..but like how they look on me)...I like toys...do not care for diapers, like highheels on her, but could not get off on shoes alone...


I have "preferences"...but no "fetishes" as the Dr. described.

well see, you have fetishes, but a womans ideal, I call it more adventurous, exciting, and experimental sex, is not fetish.

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

Seriously, the great divide, in my opinion, is a false dichotomy dreamed up by men and accepted for the most part by both sexes.

Full agreement. Though I would suggest that it was more or less forced upon women rather than allowing them an active role in its implementation.

But back when women were property, the owners (men) started defining what women could and could not want. Since the men were usually in a position to make their definition stick, women had to go along with it.

After a while women knew nothing but what men wanted them to know. So their definitions of sex and relationships were men's.

We've lived with it for thousands of years now. We try to redefine it occasionally. Haven't had much luck so far.

Again, full agreement.

 

[Guest]

well see, you have fetishes, but a womans ideal, I call it more adventurous, exciting, and experimental sex, is not fetish.

wrong!

the DOCTOR said those AREN'T fetishes...so nyah!

are we talking about a woman's (or Women's) fantasies or PRACTICES?


or writings?

if it is WRITINGS of fantasies I think BOTH genders are portraying idealised adventurous, exciting and experimental sex.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Goddamn it, I'm chopped liver again!
I've been fetishistic all my life- not to the extremes that dr_mabeuse is talking about, but...
yeah.

 

[rgraham666]

Stella, you go fifteen years without and vanilla tastes awfully good.

 

[yui]

Goddamn it, I'm chopped liver again!
I've been fetishistic all my life- not to the extremes that dr_mabeuse is talking about, but...
yeah.

You are never "chopped liver"! You are spectacular!

Twisted, but spectacular!

Love and kisses,

Vanilla Yui

 

[Stella_Omega]

Stella, you go fifteen years without and vanilla tastes awfully good.

That's mighty true. In fact, after fifteen years without vanilla, vanilla tastes good again...
It's a long phase...

Yui, any flavor you like, I swear it!

 

[cheerful_deviant]

I'm just dropping by to say...

OINK!

 

[Guest]

Stella, you go fifteen years without and vanilla tastes awfully good.

Thoughts of licking the vanilla sound pretty good to me, too.

 

[entitled]

Last night I fucked my wife up the ass and enjoyed every second of it, so did she. The night before we had fun when I came up and bent her over the futon and fucked her mindless. The night before that we spent about four hours just laying in bed exploring each others bodies with our tongues and fingers before getting into the main act. It's all good. We have a good friend whom I want to fuck, I also want to make love to her. (Yes there is a difference.) My wife concurs.

Do I like to use toys? Sometimes, they make it more intersting at times. With a toy I can make my wife scream several times bfore I even touch her.

i'm jealous.

 

[Guest]

I'm just dropping by to say...

OINK!

sssshhhhh....
we knew
and surprisingly,
we still lurve ya.

 

[elsol]

The difference is

a) The social oppression of women's sexuality
b) Multiple orgasms...

Women are just a big a freaks as men... probably more if my emails from the ladies are true.

I thought I WAS a freak... but I only think this shit up, women want to LIVE it.

Sincerely,
ElSol

 

[Colleen Thomas]

You have to defne fetish Charley, before there can be any meaningful discussion. If I slip into a teddy stockings and spike heels to get my partner going, is that a fetish? If a guy does the same thing, it is, according to the DSMV4. If my lover dons a strapon and takes me backdoor, is that a fetish? Or just a variation?

By stressing things, you might find you're more interested in paraphilias than in fetishistic behavior in general.

It really probably depends on where you draw the line.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Seems to me the evidence proves your theory wrong and even the opposite. Most of the men here aren't writing fetishes nor are they using "things". Meanwhile most of the women here have at least one story involving dildos or vibrators of one variety or another.

Perhaps it's the women who are pigs.

I've written at least twenty stories where toys are used. Sometimes they are used with a man and woman to enhance their E/C. Sometimes they are used by a woman to masturbate and in one story, a man is using a dildo on himself. I have three stories where a woman uses a strapon on a man and some where a toy is part of a FMF threesome. I haven't written a story about a "live doll" yet but I probably will.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

But back when women were property, the owners (men) started defining what women could and could not want. Since the men were usually in a position to make their definition stick, women had to go along with it.

After a while women knew nothing but what men wanted them to know. So their definitions of sex and relationships were men's.

We've lived with it for thousands of years now. We try to redefine it occasionally. Haven't had much luck so far.

I've got to disagree with this. I don't believe for a second that men and women share an indentical sexuality and that any differences have been imposed from the outside. You can control what people do; you can't control what they want, and on a site like Lit, where we're wracking our brains to come up with appealing fantasies and expressions of sexuality, you'd think that female fetishes would have made an appearance by now.

I don't buy that the female aversion to casual and affecctionless sex is an external imposition by jealous males, and I think that some of the most greivous errors made in the name of women's liberation have come about because of some women's mistaken belief that equality lies in imitating male behavior. It just ain't so.

We're made differently, physiologically and psychologically, and while there certainly is overlap, I find the idea that we're all the same deep down to be terribly dull and depressing.

 

[oggbashan]

Situations

I write about fetishes.

Some are unusual.

None actually replace the sex so are not fetishes by one of the definitions.

I think that men and women can share a desire for sex in specific situations. Fetishes can be an aid to achieving that situation. Soft lighting, mood music, good food, alcohol - those can also achieve a desired situation but I wouldn't describe them as fetishes.

Would you prefer to meet at a ball when both participants are dressed in their best, or in a muddy field wearing torn jeans? Both can be erotic and are situational.

The importance of a situation or use of a fetish is if it enhances the encounter for both. If the man likes her to wear silk, and she is willing to wear it because he will be more attentive to her needs are they using a fetish?

If she wants him to be rough, animalistic and demanding and he has to act that even if he is normally polite and caring - is that a fetish?

Fetishes, toys, situations, scenarios - they are all games people play with each other. What matters is mutual consideration, not doing or requiring something that the partner finds objectionable.

Og

 

[Stella_Omega]

I've got to disagree with this. I don't believe for a second that men and women share an indentical sexuality and that any differences have been imposed from the outside. You can control what people do; you can't control what they want, and on a site like Lit, where we're wracking our brains to come up with appealing fantasies and expressions of sexuality, you'd think that female fetishes would have made an appearance by now.

I don't buy that the female aversion to casual and affecctionless sex is an external imposition by jealous males, and I think that some of the most greivous errors made in the name of women's liberation have come about because of some women's mistaken belief that equality lies in imitating male behavior. It just ain't so.

We're made differently, physiologically and psychologically, and while there certainly is overlap, I find the idea that we're all the same deep down to be terribly dull and depressing.

You don't think female fetish behaviors have made an appearance yet? Or casual and affectionless sex by women?
How do you define these things, then?

 

[Boxlicker101]

You don't think female fetish behaviors have made an appearance yet? Or casual and affectionless sex by women?
How do you define these things, then?

Personally, I have written two stories involving female fetishes. One was "Buffy Barks at Me" and the other was "Making Love with Diane's Feet". Most of my stories involve casual sex, especially those featuring Cindy Lou from Alabama. I'm not sure just how affectionless they are because my characters all like each other, even though they are not forming strong relationships.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Personally, I have written two stories involving female fetishes. One was "Buffy Barks at Me" and the other was "Making Love with Diane's Feet". Most of my stories involve casual sex, especially those featuring Cindy Lou from Alabama. I'm not sure just how affectionless they are because my characters all like each other, even though they are not forming strong relationships.

well, but- you're a dude.. and quite a dude at that
I am female, and I write- and have enjoyed in real life- casual sex and fetishistic sex...
So, for at least one woman, Charley's theory is wrong.

 

[BlackSnake]

Well not really lol, but now that I have your attention. It strikes me in writing that men are more fetish oriented than chicks. Sluts want SEX and men want THINGS? Never the twain meet. Is that it? The great divide?

I'd rather have a slut...I'm thinking that she is out for her own orgasm, which frees me up to rally enjoy sex with her.