martial arts

[Guest]

Any practicing martial artist on board? What is your discipline? I study judo and it is one of my favorite pastimes. Tell me about your art(s) and perhaps a good drill so we can all learn something.

 

[Starfish]

Shinto-Ryu Kenjutsu: The art of Samauri sword fighting, or Japanese fencing.

To learn, one uses a bamboo and wooden swords until proficient enough to fight with a lethal weapon, and not actually kill anyone.


I am a beginner, so I've not gained even a decent amount of skill, but I am naturally inclined in the art, for some reason.


About the art: Shinto represents the time frame (late), Ryu means ‘Style,’ Ken means ‘Sword,’ and Jutsu means ‘the Training of’ or ‘the Art of.’ Shinto-Ryu Kenjutsu means ‘Shinto (late) Era Style of Training with the Sword.’ Shinais or bamboo swords are used for sparring, bokkens or wooden swords are used for katas (forms), and katanas or Japanese long swords (Samurai swords) are used for target training, advanced katas and advanced sparring. This form of swordsmanship began in the early 1300’s and was a way of life for many Japanese.
A black Kenjutsu uniform is worn, but I wear a pair of sweatpants and a tee shirt, until I've completed making my uniform.


Ranking:
Shodan/Light Blue Hachimaki (Bandana)

Nidan/Dark Blue Hachimaki

Sandan/Light Green Hachimaki

Yodan/Dark Green Hachimaki

Godan/Tan Hachimaki

Rokudan/Brown Hachimaki

Shichidan/Grey Hachimaki

Hachidan/Black Hachimaki

Kudan/Light Red Hachimaki

Judan/Dark Red Hachimaki/Daisensei (Master)


There are many, two dozen or so, styles within the late period form, but through history there have been hundreds of styles. Not many, realitively speaking, have survived.
The oldest form that survives is Tenshin Shoden Katori Shinto Ryu.

Here is a list of those that can be still be found worldwide:

Abe Ryu
Yagyu Shinkage Ryu
Niten Ichi Ryu
Mugai Ryu
Jigen Ryu
Muso Jikiden Eishin Ryu
Omori Ryu
Katori Shinto Ryu
Kashima Shinto Ryu
Suio Ryu
Muso Shinden Ryu
Maniwa Nen Ryu
Takenouchi Ryu
Yagyu Shingan Ryu
Tatsumi Ryu
Shinkage Ryu
Muraku Ryu
Jikishinkage Ryu
Hoki Ryu
Ono-ha Itto Ryu
Hokushin Ryu
Nakanishi-ha Itto Ryu
Tamiya Ryu
Shindo Munen Ryu
Itto Ryu



I have yet to set my mind to one style, and as a beginner it wasn't crucial to do so, but now I must. I believe that the most available form in my area is Shinkage Ryu but I am looking into others.
As I learn, I'll share information, but it isn't a good idea to just get into this art without formal training. You won't get very far that way.

 

[Guest]

very cool. there is a small framed man not far from my home that I just discovered. He is an 8th dan in sword fighting, 6th in Aikido, 2nd in judo and a KI master. I went to him for to see about judo training. He is the real deal trained at the Kodokan in Japan, the mecca of Judo. I personally have had alot of striking arts training, but discovered judo 6 years ago and fell in love with it. Although having found this instructor would love to do Aikido. The two arts would compliment one another so well.
The weapons fascinate me too, just no time to train in them.
Much success to you in your new pursuit! I have found my training to be a great value in mind and spirit. I have one piece of advise only. Compete if you can. Test your knowledge. I had to prove to myself I earned each belt. I believe not in bragging about it, but knowing in your heart you deserve the belt. having gone out and tested your knowledge in a sanctioned tournament.

Not a very erotic topic, but one that I get so much enjoyment out of.

DON'T QUIT!!

 

[Guest]

starfish
is that a photo of you in action? Do they actually strike one another? I would love to get into that!!

 

[Starfish]

No, that is not me. I am not in competition yet. That is an example for those who know nothing of the art, so they can see the act of it in competition.


Yes, they strike. It is essential to master the real actions of fighting, and the motive of this art form was defense against attack, and that would require the death or fleeing of the opponent. Striking is essential.

Thank you for the blessings and advice. I am not a quitter, so I plan to heed your advice. I just have an illness that makes it so I am not able to advance as rapidly as others can, so I have to be able to work at my own pace and sometimes I just cannot do it. It is a shame really because I'd be able to be a master someday if I were healthy, but my illness makes it difficult to foresee that possibility, though I am very hopeful. I am strong of mind and heart, and that is the most important aspect of control in these art forms. I know that with my mental strength, I will overcome many obstacles to my aid in my advancement.

I will compete, but not in a formal sense, until I am better.

 

[ohiobbw]

I am a black belt in Tae Kwon Do, Tang Soo Do is my association.

My art involves lots of kicking.
I can't think of any drills at the moment!

 

[Guest]

two blackbelts that is impressive!! Do you still train? If you added some judo or jujitsu to those arts you would be so proficient standing or on the ground.

Continued success!

Judo translates to "the gentle way"

 

[ohiobbw]

two blackbelts that is impressive!! Do you still train? If you added some judo or jujitsu to those arts you would be so proficient standing or on the ground.

Continued success!

Judo translates to "the gentle way"

Just the one black belt. Tang Soo Do is a division of Tae Kwon Do. I do still train. 2 hours, twice a week.

I do a little jujitsu, but I'm not very good at ground techniques.

 

[OUTSIDER]

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[T.H. Oughts]

My man is a Sensi instructor for Go-Kan-Ryu.

 

[Ask For More]

I'm an expert at Tekken Tag and Street Fighter...

In real life I know a little Wing Chun, and a bit of Shaolin Kung Fu. I grew up in a tough area so lets say I know how to fight dirty

 

[Rambling Rose]

"...everybody was Kung Fu fighting..." *dang a langa dang dang dang*

Has anyone see Iron Monkey on the big screen yet?

 

[Avintine]

Chinese Shaolin Kungfu

Well over the years I have practiced Tae Kwon Do and Right now I am Practicing Shaolin Do, Chinese Kung fu.

 

[Ask For More]

Re: "...everybody was Kung Fu fighting..." *dang a langa dang dang dang*

Has anyone see Iron Monkey on the big screen yet?

I watched it four years ago when it was first out in Hong Kong...great film!

 

[Rambling Rose]

AFM, I've seen it on video but the chance to see it on the big screen...now that's action!

 

[sarahuk4]

Years ago I was Brown Belt in Judo ......but not now , wouldnt even make Yellow now ..lol..........

But self defence is a very good class for any person to take , whether male or female ........always remember that ......

 

[Ask For More]

AFM, I've seen it on video but the chance to see it on the big screen...now that's action!

Tell me about it.....Donnie Yen is god! He surely deserves a trip to Hollywood to work with Jet Li in a super budget film!

 

[Emeraldtryst]

I study Ninjitsu with my friend who's a 6th dan.

He likes to mix in a bit of Aikido so I've got some of that as well. He's planning on leaving the Bujinkan though...so it looks like I won't have any sort of rank...but it doesn't matter to me.

 

[Guest]

MARTIAL ARTS

I would love to start training in Aikido. I personally think it is so damn practical and beautiful to watch.
keep training hard!

 

[Guest]

MARTIAL ARTS

sarah
were you a sankyu, nikyu or ikkyu?? You were on the cusp of obtaining your blackbelt. why stop training?? You can fall right back into place. has it been that long?? I love judo and wish more women in my area would train. It is very effective for defence if necessary.

 

[Jean Val Jean]

Master's Certificate on my wall.
4th Dan Okinawan kobudo.
Teach for a living.
College Degree too. That is the one that means the most.

 

[Guest]

Shinto-Ryu Kenjutsu: The art of Samauri sword fighting, or Japanese fencing.

To learn, one uses a bamboo and wooden swords until proficient enough to fight with a lethal weapon, and not actually kill anyone.

Ah? Fascinating. I study Kendo myself (the sporting variant), so real swords and boken are out of the question except for use during katas. This is of course because Kendo is always full-contact.

However, I would like to try a style similar to this, as Kendo usually does not let you study alternative styles untill you've done lots and lots of two-handed single sword stuff. I would like to study a daisho (big & small) style with katana and wakizashi. Don't know if I can to this as I'm stranded on the arse-end of the earth (Australia), so most of the interesting stuff never makes it here. Kung-fu has some tempting weapons stuff though...

Actually, I'm into boxing as well. <rant> There are people out there that pooh-pooh boxing because they think a style can't be any good if it's not from some exotic oriental tradition. But then again, look at all the forms used when _training_ for, say, tae kwon do, and then watch where the hands really go once they get in the ring. Might as well learn it that way from the get-go. The other advantage of boxing is that it involves, if not full contact, at least proper friendly taps, so that if you actually have to _use_ it for self defence, you can flatten someone before they can say "come on then!". </rant> Heh... anyway, a friend of mine used to be an amatuer boxer in the UK, and when he hits people it's so fast and so hard that they get up 5 min later asking who hit them from behind with a crowbar. Of course, he only hits those who really deserve it...

I think when it comes to the choice of contact vs. non-, it should be the simpler contact choice that wins. Hence, boxing over karate (yes, OK, some karate forms are heavy contact), Thai kick-boxing over tae kwon do, judo over jujutsu.

Oh well, that's enough methinks.

 

[Emeraldtryst]

Unregistered...I'd have to agree with you for the most part. When our group does training...we alwasy train with full contact so that in the event of a real fight we'll be able to tell the difference between a fake punch and a real one.

Training with friends has it's benefits in this case because I can't even count the number of times I've gotten smacked for not paying attention or "rang someone's bell" so to speak when they screwed something or another up.

But a style isn't truly better simply because of it's amount of contact. Tai Chi and Aikido both teach the basic mentality that your goal is to defeat the attack, not the attacker. They are similar in that they are both very soft styles. But I can tell you from experience that getting tossed about 10 feet and landing on your head hurts just as much as any strike.


I feel that a style that focuses on defeating an opponent can never defeat a style that focuses on defeating an attack. If you look at any hard style, the goal is to exert your force in some way to cause harm to the defender. The attacker's goal is basically to kill you.

The defender's only goal is to not die. Redirecting the incoming beam of force with your own beam of force, stopping the force with a direct counter-force, or even just getting out of the way. The defender has won the conflict by simply not accepting the force of the attack. Sure, each fight might be composed of many of these "conflicts" but in every instance the attacker has but one option and the defender has many.

That's just my take on it, anyone else study Aikido or Tai Chi and know if I'm way off base on this?

 

[OUTSIDER]

Although I've never done martial arts myself I did know a woman (friends wife) did the Tai Chi thing and we went with her to an avent where she was doing a demo, anyway a few of the young bucks who did some other for of martial art were taking the piss and asking how all this slow stuff was gonna help if you got attacked, one silly waker asked her if she was gonna bore and attacker to death.

She told him to put his money where his mouth was and step in the ring with her, he agree'd and got seven kinds of shit beat out of him by a little girl half his size who went from slow dance to frenzied blur so fast it made yer eyeballs bleed, she wiped the floor with him and got a big round of appplause for it, I gotta say the guy took it really well and after joked that he might be ringing her up for lessons.

 

[modest mouse]

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