Marriage, Transsexuals and the Law

[lavender]

 

[bluespoke]

Lavy

The law and public policy is an ass!

I could go on at length but why bother - legislation in the US and the UK is made by politicians with their heads stuck firmly up their asses.

Judges often with the same positioning of their heads interpret that legislation.

Who loses out? The poor saps that voted them in in the first place.

 

[alexandraaah]

"A post-operative male-to-female transsexual is not a woman within meaning of statutes recognizing marriage as a civil contract between two parties who are of opposite sex consisting of a man and a woman, and thus, a post-operative male-to-female transsexual cannot validly marry another man; the words "sex," "marriage," "male," and "female" in everyday understanding do not encompass transsexuals, and the common, ordinary meaning of "persons of the opposite sex" contemplates what is commonly understood to be a biological man and a biological woman. "

This seems to be the real issue here; is a transsexual their assigned or altered identity? Perception is reality. Just as it has never occured to me that I am not a woman, it probably never occured to J'Noel either. Edited: of course it occured to her that she was born with a penis; but her feelings of 'being' a woman are very real and true, as are mine. I just have the genitalia to match.

Transsexualism is an error in the sexual differentiation process, the development of becoming a man or a woman . . . the person involved bears no personal responsibility for his or her condition. It is not a matter of choice

Agreed; Gender Identity Disorder is very real and very much NOT a choice. (hell, who would chose that?)

If you want the definition from the DSM, lemme know.

 

[Weevil]

Warning: Long But Interesting Post Ahead.

Don't force your subjective views on that thread on me. I'll decide if it's interesting or not.

 

[SweetCherry]

Lavender, reading that makes me wonder how they would treat a hermaphrodite (sp?) who either went thru and had surgery to become totally one gender or the other or one who was living as one or the other without any form of surgery at all. Somehow, this seems very wrong to me. IMHO, she made a choice to become a woman. Hence, she WAS a woman, and seeing as how ALL of her records agreed with that as well, there should be no issue about it. She was his wife. She deserves his assets after he died. Plain and simple.

I guess that shows how much I know, huh?