Making a splash in Saudi..

matriarch

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The wife sent me the link to this article on BBC News on line.

Thought I'd share it with you all. It made us both smile, despite the underlying seriousness of the topic.


Making a public splash in Saudi
By Rachel Reid, BBC News, Saudi Arabia

A new university for women is opening in Riyadh - yet Saudi Arabia remains a country where women cannot vote, drive, dress as they like or go where they please.

When I moved to the Middle East six months ago, I knew I would have to bid farewell to my arms and legs.

But I was happy to be working in the region, so I did not resent having to put my skirts and dresses into storage.

But as I prepared for my first trip to Saudi Arabia, I was bristling at the thought of having to wear an abaya - the all-enveloping black cloak that turns the women of the Gulf into mournful ghosts.

Perhaps that is why I called the hotel before I arrived, to ask a question I already knew the answer to - will I be able to use the swimming pool?

The response was a small silence, and then an embarrassed laugh. "Er, No madam. The pool is, of course, for men only. I am so sorry."

The women of Saudi Arabia are not just folded away behind swathes of hot black cloth, they live segregated lives, ushered out of the all-male public spaces into so called "family" areas, escorted everywhere by husbands or male relatives, and expected to ask for male permission to travel.

So the idea of women swimming in public was laughable.

Undeterred, I wrote a slightly uppity e-mail to the manager of the hotel, protesting that whatever discrimination I expected in the country, I didn't expect it in an international hotel, and asking how he could justify charging me the same price for a lesser service.

I suggested that he could arrange a single sex time for women to swim. I even offered to swim in my abaya.

To my surprise, he agreed to my request. The pool would be mine between six and seven in the morning.

So, wishing I had someone to witness me swimming in cloak and goggles, I arrived for my swim, at dawn.

Big revolution

The night manager of the leisure centre, Walid, was waiting for me, in a state of nervous excitement.

"Good morning madam," he said. "We have everything ready for you. We have cordoned off the pool, placed screens all around."

"So if you have everything you need I shall lock you out here so that you won't be disturbed."

He paused for a moment with his keys, and fixed me with a conspiratorial look.

"I have to congratulate you, Madam, I think you are the first woman to swim in public in all Saudi Arabia!"

I grinned. "A small revolution?" I asked.

"No a big revolution. I don't think you realise how big," he said, shaking his head in amazement.

"So since you've screened it all off, does that mean I don't have to wear an abaya?" I asked.

"You can wear what you want," he said, smiling, "No-one can see you."

I didn't feel this was the moment to point out that I was swimming in the open air, at the foot of the tallest building in the country. There was a 41-storey skyscraper looking down upon this scandal. I couldn't help but gaze up at it between lengths, and giggle.

First elections

Later that day I met an impressive woman of the Gulf called Haya Rashed al Khalifa. Haya is one of Bahrain's first female lawyers, and currently the President of the United Nations General Assembly.

She was in Riyadh to address a gathering of Arab heads of state; an unusual occasion in a region where female politicians are still an unfamiliar sight.

The first nationwide elections only took place here two years ago.

Women were not allowed to vote, let alone stand as candidates.

But Haya told the rows of men seated in front of her that they could not avoid change any longer.

It was time, she told the Arab leaders, that they recognised that women are part of the human race.

Meeting Haya later, I told her I was struck by her optimism.

This repression of women, she told me, is not about Islam. It is about culture. Just look at how interpretations of Islam shift with geography.

The closer countries are to other civilisations - the more progressive they are.

Take Tunisia, in North Africa, where women have had full rights for 50 years. The tides of change have now reached the Gulf.

I told her about my small ripple at the hotel. Her jaw dropped. "You asked to swim in Saudi Arabia? Young lady," she said, "that is more of a breakthrough than mine!"

It wasn't of course. The right to swim comes a long way down the list of demands of the women in Saudi Arabia - well below the right to vote, or the right to drive a car.

But the Saudi leaders are beginning to address that list.

They have said that women will be allowed to vote in the local elections of 2009.

If they keep their promise, that will be a revolution.

The women voters might still be hidden beneath abeyas, but they surely won't be expected to bring their male escorts into the voting booths. Will they?
 
starrkers said:
From little things, big things grow...
*sigh* I'd always hoped that to be true.

Mat's: Thanks for the post. One's mnd boggles at the double standards. Is oil the only reason the rest of the democracised world allows Saudia Arabia to continue this sham?

The woman has guts; I wonder how long she will be 'allowed' to keep her job.
 
starrkers said:
From little things, big things grow...

Yes.

Real change has to come from within the culture. Women did it here, and I have no doubt that they'll do it there.
 
neonlyte said:
Mat's: Thanks for the post. One's mnd boggles at the double standards. Is oil the only reason the rest of the democracised world allows Saudia Arabia to continue this sham?
In a paradoxal way: Yes. And No.

Why paradoxal? Two of the countries most oppressive against women must be Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan, especially under the Taliban rule. One has vast riches of oil and the world can't quite afford to risk it's business investments there. The other have vast riches of...er...nothing. So there the world didn't give a flying fuck, until it turned out they had Al Quaeda aplenty.
 
cloudy said:
Yes.

Real change has to come from within the culture. Women did it here, and I have no doubt that they'll do it there.
You're right, but then you mostly are; so ignoring the fact I was being slghtly rude over a function of aging, I'm amazed that cultural change is taking so long in Saudi. One is almost froced to conclude change will only come from a form of revolution. Either that or the status quo is accepted by most women.

Came across a fascinating (related) item last night, I've bored you with 'bread' before, but I'll risk it again. In Old English seo hlaefdige, or the Lady, is literally 'the bread server', while hlaef, or Lord, means bread. This from more than 1000 years ago. There is a way to go.

Liar: I take your point, we only intervene when we have something to gain, the rest can be ignored. It was always thus.
 
I have been to Saudi Arabia. I am not surprised at the swimming story.

Among the wealthy in Saudi Arabia cars will arrive at a party. Men will arrive in cars and women will arrive in other cars. The women will all wear abayas. Once inside the house, the women go somewhere and remove the abayas they wear over fancy French gowns. There is then a social evening with some mixing between the men and women, but not very much. The women then go somewhere and put their abayas back on and then they are driven home. [By the way, in at least some instances, booze is served at a party. For those who are not aware, Muslims are not allowed to drink booze.]
 
neonlyte said:
Either that or the status quo is accepted by most women.

I think this is probably very close to the truth. Not all women, certainly, but maybe most of them.

It's something I, and others, have tried to pound into Roxanne's head time and time again: another people's culture may work for them just fine, even if it is alien to us. :)
 
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