Madonna

Sub Joe said:
Women like Madonna. Men don't.

Gay men do. :cool:

I had a college English course about 15 years ago from a prof that viewed Madonna as a post-modern icon of subversive sexuality. I'm not sure I buy into the whole thing at this point in her career, but I'm her age and I'd give my left nut to be able to put on a show like that.

I hope her tour succeeds - she's really in a class by herself. Not always my cup of tea, but name another female performer who's had the cultural impact she's had for as long as she's had... I'm at a loss.
 
I'm pretty unimpressed by shows and spectacle. I've always preferred intimate music performances to big concerts. And when you strip all that stuff away, there aint much there with Madonna execpt some catchy songs. So I guess the only thing I could say I admire about her is that she has good taste in songwriters and producers.

She's the same age as my wife and her women friends, and they all think she's great.


Fans of Larry Niven's Ringworld would notice the resemblence between the hardbody Madonna and Teela Brown.
 
Sub Joe said:
Women like Madonna. Men don't.

I kinda like her. Her music's okayish and nothing special, but she does have a talent for being quite resplendantly weird, without slipping over into Micheal Jackson territory. And htat's always got to be admired.

Plus, pretty damned sexy.

The Earl
 
I saw her last night. She was out of this world! :cool:

Pole-dancing, riding crops, and during a two-hour performance where she danced like someone half her age, she didn't miss a single note. It was a CD quality performance.

My disposable camera confiscated at the gates, but I managed to get a few not particularly good snapshots on my phone. Watch this space for more details.

The Millennium Stadium was packed with 59,000 people. I wish I could hit the rewind button and go back to last night to watch the concert all over again. It's no accident that the woman's a superstar :heart:
 
Huckleman2000 said:
she's really in a class by herself. Not always my cup of tea, but name another female performer who's had the cultural impact she's had for as long as she's had... I'm at a loss.

Kate Bush.

Her fans, and I number myself among them, are rabid. And she's influenced a lot of musicians in the quarter century she's been around.

Madonna's chief ability is the ease with which she uses the media. She knows just what to do to make sure the ADD of the modern media remains focused on her.
 
rgraham666 said:
Madonna's chief ability is the ease with which she uses the media. She knows just what to do to make sure the ADD of the modern media remains focused on her.

Madonna's a bloody good performer in her own right. I have no option other than to stand up for her - I'm smitten. :rose:
 
Sub Joe said:
I'm pretty unimpressed by shows and spectacle. I've always preferred intimate music performances to big concerts. And when you strip all that stuff away, there aint much there with Madonna execpt some catchy songs. So I guess the only thing I could say I admire about her is that she has good taste in songwriters and producers.

She's the same age as my wife and her women friends, and they all think she's great.


Fans of Larry Niven's Ringworld would notice the resemblence between the hardbody Madonna and Teela Brown.

Agreed..........spectacle is all it is. I don't particularly like her work, the occasional song, and I sure as hell wouldn't go out of my way to buy a ticket to watch her live.

Each to their own, I guessm but not for me.
 
Madonna is a bit of a mystery. She is a hard-working entertainer, but so is everyother failure out there. She is a singer who knows how to use the merely okay-ish voice she has pretty effectively. She's got a handful of memorable songs on her CV, but most of the musical output is easily forgettable. And still every single soar the charts.

I guess what her main talent is is an uncanny ability to tap into the swirl of underground culture and spot the tiny fraction of it that is just about to break into masive mainstream appeal, and then ride it for all that it's worth. Always pick the right producers and the right stylists. Over and over again, for decades.
 
i like anyone who can get Letterman sputtering and embarrassed.
 
My favorite female artists are probably still Carole King and Joni Mitchell (not so much for their singing as for their songs), but for sheer goosebumps, its gotta be Lauren Hill's voice for me.
 
Huckleman2000 said:
......name another female performer who's had the cultural impact she's had for as long as she's had... I'm at a loss.

Cher.
 
She is not my cup of tea really either. I was interested to read an interveiw with her, can't recall which magazine, something like Ladies Home Journal or the like, she confessed that she is now embarrassed by her past antics.

Did you know she actually had to take voice lessons to be able to sing in Evita? That pretty much sums her up to me.

To each his own though, and I am glad the concert was to your enjoyment.
 
Liar said:
Madonna is a bit of a mystery. She is a hard-working entertainer, but so is everyother failure out there. She is a singer who knows how to use the merely okay-ish voice she has pretty effectively. She's got a handful of memorable songs on her CV, but most of the musical output is easily forgettable. And still every single soar the charts.

I guess what her main talent is is an uncanny ability to tap into the swirl of underground culture and spot the tiny fraction of it that is just about to break into masive mainstream appeal, and then ride it for all that it's worth. Always pick the right producers and the right stylists. Over and over again, for decades.

I recall my mother saying Madonna would not last back in a Grammy win in the 80s - I said she would. Why? You are right, she really is not a great singer, and she is certainly is not a great dancer, but she is a marvel when it comes to controversy and spectacle and people LOVE VEGAS AND GOSSIP!
 
I never took her all that seriously as a musician as opposed to a brilliant, self-made pop-icon - until Ray of Light. That was beautiful, and even had a touch of the sublime.
 
Sub Joe said:
My favorite female artists are probably still Carole King and Joni Mitchell (not so much for their singing as for their songs), but for sheer goosebumps, its gotta be Lauren Hill's voice for me.


for me, it's Janis Joplin
 
I don't think Madonna has ever done a song that I like, but I respect her for slaughtering sacred cows and her strong business mind. The woman is sharp.
 
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