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[Spinaroonie]

Apple is replacing it's free iTools and replacing it with a much better pay service. Naturally people are outraged (How dare a buisness act like a buisness)

So, if you are an iTools user, will you pay?

 

[woodgie2]

OK OK OK!

I'm a sodding great geek. I love all my yummy little Macs (as we all know) and a couple of days ago I signed both of my iTools accounts up as .mac accounts at a cost of $99.90c.

I know this is going to be $200 next year. But there again I knew that Apple would start charging for iTools sooner or later. They had to, they're a company, and like other companies they have to make money from thier servises. Looking at it from another point of view, the eMail account is up 10MB to 15MB and the iDisk web storage is up 80MB to 100MB. To be honest, along with the ability to back up stuff over the 'net as well as to Data DVD I'd be willing to pay that for the Backup software alone.

Now, please don't go thinking I'm defending Apple or getting too partisan. I am guilty of that 999,999 times out of 1,000,000 - but this time I have to say that it hurts to have something that was advertised as 'free for life' (note: ONLY advertised, the Ts&Cs never mentioned this) now being charged at $100 a year. But it is the nature of the beast, just as sd said.

I knew when I signed up for iTools I'd become dependant on my mac.com eMail address. I have, I also like having my own websites that I can change as I like, on line storage and backup (especially over the 'net). Yes, I could have that with other servises and software, but the fact it's so nicely integrated with my Macs makes it extra value to me. And value is what it's about.

OK. I've rambled on enough, sorry.

 

[Spinaroonie]

The rumor sites are all abuzz about a conversion of the iTools email into a seperate thing, so that you wouldn't pay for the email if you already have one.

 

[Guest]

Apple is replacing it's free iTools and replacing it with a much better pay service. Naturally people are outraged (How dare a buisness act like a buisness)

So, if you are an iTools user, will you pay?

Can I have fries and a coke with that?

 

[Spinaroonie]

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Can I have fries and a coke with that?

-1, Troll

 

[woodgie2]

The rumor sites are all abuzz about a conversion of the iTools email into a seperate thing, so that you wouldn't pay for the email if you already have one.

No, apparently that was a misinterperatation of the fact you can add extra eMail address to a .mac account at $10 a throw.

 

[Spinaroonie]

No, apparently that was a misinterperatation of the fact you can add extra eMail address to a .mac account at $10 a throw.

There's still time

 

[woodgie2]

There's still time

*lol* we can wish. But I doubt it. The most time consuming and costly part of the operation would be maintainin the eMail servers.

 

[Guest]

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-1, Troll

wrong. I like eating my big mac in front of my PC.

I give that a +2

 

[Spinaroonie]

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wrong. I like eating my big mac in front of my PC.

I give that a +2

If your karma is over '25' you can use your bonus point to start yourself at 2, but you didn't so you posted at one, and now you're at zero.

 

[Spinaroonie]

*lol* we can wish. But I doubt it. The most time consuming and costly part of the operation would be maintainin the eMail servers.

True, unfortunately, it's all that I use. The .mac mail filters are incredible, very little noise.

 

[woodgie2]

True, unfortunately, it's all that I use. The .mac mail filters are incredible, very little noise.

Yes, but apparently a bit TOO good. Some users have reported that ligitimate eMail is being refused.

 

[Guest]

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If your karma is over '25' you can use your bonus point to start yourself at 2, but you didn't so you posted at one, and now you're at zero.

How do you know what my karma is? You silly.....my Karma is at 259. I got plenty of points to throw around. You are not the Karma guard. My animal totem told me so.

I am still waiting for my fries and coke, thankyouverymuch!

 

[Spinaroonie]

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How do you know what my karma is? You silly.....my Karma is at 259. I got plenty of points to throw around. You are not the Karma guard. My animal totem told me so.

I am still waiting for my fries and coke, thankyouverymuch!

Pretty hard to do that, Karma cap is 50.

 

[Spinaroonie]

Yes, but apparently a bit TOO good. Some users have reported that ligitimate eMail is being refused.

Yeah, every email that I send out that says "Jim, Enlarge your penis for only pennies a day" usually gets in the trash bin. Too bad, I'm just trying to help out a friend

 

[Guest]

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Pretty hard to do that, Karma cap is 50.

Like you would know, you silly. There is no cap.

 

[woodgie2]

Yeah, every email that I send out that says "Jim, Enlarge your penis for only pennies a day" usually gets in the trash bin. Too bad, I'm just trying to help out a friend

But I didn't think Capt. Kirk needed help in that department.


OK, now I'm getting surreal. Back to the install report I was writing.

 

[Spinaroonie]

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Like you would know, you silly. There is no cap.

There's always been a cap. CmdrTaco is thinking of lowering it to 30.

 

[scylis]

so have the aliens come for your nightly anal prob yet, sd?

 

[Guest]

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There's always been a cap. CmdrTaco is thinking of lowering it to 30.

wrong.

Who's cmdrtaco? My animal totem doesn't know that person.

 

[woodgie2]

Out of interest

From Today's (22-07-02) MacFixIt page.

iTools membership agreement Brent Rossow notes an excerpt from the original iTools user agreement, where Apple grants itself permission to eventually charge for the service:

"Apple may change, suspend or discontinue any (or all) aspects of iTools at any time, including the availability of any iTools feature or content. Apple may also impose limits on the use of or access to certain features or portions of iTools, including a charge for or imposition of a subscription or other fee for use of iTools or any part or feature of iTools, or restrict your access to any part or all of iTools, in all cases without notice or liability."


but we all read the small print when we signed up... didn't we?

 

[lobito]

I don't use Mac's, only have a few times, and have nothing against them. But I do have something against ANY service Mac or not, charging for a "free for life" service, EVEN if the TOS says they MAY or probably will charge in the future. There ae way too many services available out there for free, even if only for a short while, that I can store my personal shit on, and why would I do that anyway? It's personal, as in should stay on my computer. If a service makes a backup for me, then why not for anyone else of the same info?

I don't have a problem with business wanting to make money, but charge from the get go, or you'll not ahve me using that service for very long. You have to know waht you are getting into, if not, it's your fault.

 

[Spinaroonie]

Re: Out of interest

From Today's (22-07-02) MacFixIt page.

iTools membership agreement Brent Rossow notes an excerpt from the original iTools user agreement, where Apple grants itself permission to eventually charge for the service:
but we all read the small print when we signed up... didn't we?

Everread any ToS? You never get what you pay for. Technically no ISP lets you run an instant messaging client (because it creates a server)

 

[woodgie2]

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Everread any ToS? You never get what you pay for. Technically no ISP lets you run an instant messaging client (because it creates a server)

Tos. That's be right...