Ma'am? MA'AM???

[Xelebes]

Dr.? Professor?

Those work, too.

Those are "proper" addresses, as I call them.

 

[blackhaus7]

Dr.? Professor?

Those work, too.

"Yo, Bitch" usually elicits a response.





















(Go to hell? Yes, ma'am. As fast as I can.)

 

[Zeb_Carter]

OK, here's how it works for me:

If someone calls me "Miss", he/she is going to get a verbal bitch-slap for treating me with complete disrespect.

I am over 15 years old and, besides that, I'm married (and I wear a wedding ring).

Referring to an adult woman as "miss" is a thinly veiled attempt to treat her as a child.

So you would prefer?

"Yo, bitch!" or "Hey you!" or some other phrase?

"Hey lady!" What word should I use to get your attention if I should need too?

 

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[blackhaus7]

Hey, you want a cock cage?

I think little ol' Mickey has one he can spare.

But it's oversized and would fall off me.

 

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[blackhaus7]

BWAH!

Well, Charley may want to speak with you, then.

Charley may be in for a surprise.

Nah. Charley's ready for anything.

 

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[Captain Midnight]

Awwww ... hell.

Why do very young men insist upon calling women who happen to be older - ma'am?

Why?

I received a PM yesterday that stated -

Hello Ma'am
Hello Ma'am. How are you today? i've posted some pictures in a new thread and would love to hear what you think.

He included a link and pictures.


My reply?


I don't appreciate unsolicited naked pics.

Thanks, but no thanks.

(And don't call me ma'am.)


WHICH reminded me of - "Don't call me Shirley."

I pity the next young man who calls me ma'am. I truly do.

Awww, hell.

I'll call women half my age ma'am. I was told it was a sign of respect.

My girlfriend, who is twice as old or older than the students she teaches (in high school) is simply called "Miss." They're lucky I don't sit in on her classes, or I'd write the little so-and-so's up for disrespect in a heartbeat. Maybe they shouldn't call her by her first name, but "Miss" is even more degrading ... like she's a servant or something.

That's my rant for the night. I won't call you "ma'am" if you absolutely insist otherwise, but I better have some kind of respectful name for you.

Ironically, I don't like to be called sir or Mister. It sounds like they're hitting me up for money or favors. My first name will be fine.

Captain Peter Midnight

 

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[angela146]

So you would prefer?

"Yo, bitch!" or "Hey you!" or some other phrase?

"Hey lady!" What word should I use to get your attention if I should need too?

No, I would prefer "ma'am".

 

[S-Des]

I think it depends on what part of the country (or the world) you are from.

My displeasure came from this unsolicited PM with nude photos, actually.

But you say you don't like to be called sir - that's the equivalent of ma'am. What should someone call you if they don't know who you are?

It does make some women feel old, just as being addressed by sir makes you feel uncomfortable.

I have no answers, just needed to rant.

I usually will politely say "Excuse me," with a smile and most people respond well to that. It certainly isn't disrespectful to call someone ma'am, but the way I was raised, it's what you say to your elders. The last thing I want is to make a woman think that I'm addressing her a given way because I'm assuming she's old. Some may prefer it, but many don't, so I offer a polite greeting or ask their name (I'll do that with a waitress if I don't see a name tag). I might respond to a question with a, "Yes ma'am," but wouldn't feel right trying to stop someone by saying, "Excuse me, ma'am."

I think the opinions here show that it's mixed enough that you risk making someone feel bad by using it insensitively. Then again, I'm guessing that a gent from the south saying, "Pardon me, ma'am," with a slow southern drawl wouldn't have the same problem. It's all in the delivery. For me, I'd rather here a question phrased politely than someone calling me sir. It still makes me feel old.

 

[Aurora Black]

Awww, hell.

I'll call women half my age ma'am. I was told it was a sign of respect.

My girlfriend, who is twice as old or older than the students she teaches (in high school) is simply called "Miss." They're lucky I don't sit in on her classes, or I'd write the little so-and-so's up for disrespect in a heartbeat. Maybe they shouldn't call her by her first name, but "Miss" is even more degrading ... like she's a servant or something.

That's my rant for the night. I won't call you "ma'am" if you absolutely insist otherwise, but I better have some kind of respectful name for you.

Ironically, I don't like to be called sir or Mister. It sounds like they're hitting me up for money or favors. My first name will be fine.

Captain Peter Midnight

When I was in high school, I called all my female teachers "Ms," and they seemed to be okay with that. In college (the first time), I called everyone either "Professor" or "Doctor" wherever they applied. Now at the Greek university and my music school, unless they specifically request for me to call them by their given name (and quite a few have), I call them "Kyria" (Ma'am/Mrs.) or "Kyrie" (Sir/Mr.) and then their last name.

*curtsies*

 

[Zeb_Carter]

No, I would prefer "ma'am".

But Miss, I am quite a bit older than you so ma'am would not be appropriate from my point of view. And if I didn't know your name or couldn't see you ring finger it would be "Miss, excuse me Miss...could you help me?"

So you see my delima, as an old fart who everyone is younger than you young ladies are all "Miss" to me.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

Are you sure he was calling you ma'am because of the age difference? It's altogether possible that's he's looking for a nice dominatrix. In which case, it's only right that he call you "ma'am."

Who ever heard of a sub calling his mistress "miss"?

Actually, some Domme prefer to be called "Miss". Really, I'm not kidding.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

I think it depends on what part of the country (or the world) you are from.

My displeasure came from this unsolicited PM with nude photos, actually.

But you say you don't like to be called sir - that's the equivalent of ma'am. What should someone call you if they don't know who you are?

It does make some women feel old, just as being addressed by sir makes you feel uncomfortable.

I have no answers, just needed to rant.

So, it was "ma'am" as in "wham, bam, thank you, ma'am". Foreplay, gents! Don't just send the PMs....flirt a little first. These Young Turks need a lesson in seduction.

 

[angelicminx]

Why do very young men insist upon calling women who happen to be older - ma'am?

Why?

I received a PM yesterday that stated -

Hello Ma'am
Hello Ma'am. How are you today? i've posted some pictures in a new thread and would love to hear what you think.

He included a link and pictures.


My reply?


I don't appreciate unsolicited naked pics.

Thanks, but no thanks.

(And don't call me ma'am.)


WHICH reminded me of - "Don't call me Shirley."

I pity the next young man who calls me ma'am. I truly do.

My SO calls every woman "ma'am". He calls every man "sir". At least until they no longer deserve respect, then he just doesn't speak to them, lol. (He's 60. )

 

[angela146]

But Miss, I am quite a bit older than you so ma'am would not be appropriate from my point of view. And if I didn't know your name or couldn't see you ring finger it would be "Miss, excuse me Miss...could you help me?"

So you see my delima, as an old fart who everyone is younger than you young ladies are all "Miss" to me.

Yes, and that is an indication of a subtle lack of respect.

We women who are younger than you are not all the same. Some of us are adults and some of us adults resent the implication that we should be lumped into the same category as 10 year old girls.

The fact that you are a generation older than I am does not give you leave treat me as if I were a child.

Let me ask you this: how do you address a 30 year old man whom you don't know? Do you call him "Sir" or "boy" or something else?

 

[frozen_north]

Let me ask you this: how do you address a 30 year old man whom you don't know? Do you call him "Sir" or "boy" or something else?

You would refer to him as "sir." Mister (Mr.) specifically denotes a married man, just as Missus(Mrs.) specifically denotes a married woman. A young boy (5-12 years) is generally reffered to as master just as a girl of the same age is referred to as miss.

 

[S-Des]

Yes, and that is an indication of a subtle lack of respect.

We women who are younger than you are not all the same. Some of us are adults and some of us adults resent the implication that we should be lumped into the same category as 10 year old girls.

The fact that you are a generation older than I am does not give you leave treat me as if I were a child.

Let me ask you this: how do you address a 30 year old man whom you don't know? Do you call him "Sir" or "boy" or something else?

I completely don't get your point. There have already been at least a dozen women who've posted the opposite POV. You're saying I'm disrespecting you if I respect them (or what I was brought up to believe was the proper way to address someone). So if I call everyone ma'am the way you feel is right, I'm disrespecting them (plus my mom who is the one who explained all this to me). What you're saying is, it's impossible for me to be polite to everyone, regardless of how hard I try (plus I'm being disrespectful if I sincerely try, but don't call you the title you'd prefer)? I don't call children Miss (especially 10 year old girls, I'm not sure where that came from), and have never met anyone who does. I'm confused why you'd make that point.

I am a 40 year-old man and would prefer not to be addressed as sir except in specific situations. So if everyone did it the way you insisted, I'd be feeling disrespected. This is too confusing.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Yes, and that is an indication of a subtle lack of respect.

We women who are younger than you are not all the same. Some of us are adults and some of us adults resent the implication that we should be lumped into the same category as 10 year old girls.

The fact that you are a generation older than I am does not give you leave treat me as if I were a child.

Let me ask you this: how do you address a 30 year old man whom you don't know? Do you call him "Sir" or "boy" or something else?

Well you see...a 10 year old would be "Hey kid!" Not "boy" or "miss". The way I learned it...older than me "Ma'am", younger than me "Miss".

And as old as I am a 10 year old girl would not be a "Miss"...maybe "Missy" but most likely "Kid", if I even spoke to her which I doubt.

As far a men are concerned...older than me definitly "Sir". Younger than me "Young man" or even "Hey dude!" but as they are usually falling all over themselves calling me "Sir" I haven't had the opportunity to address them.

But if I ever run into you somewhere you will definitly be a "Ms" as you are certainly much too young to be getting mad about being called "Miss".

 

[Liar]

No, I would prefer "ma'am".

See, this is where it gets confusing. For you, ma'am is respectful. For Sarah, ma'am it the opposite.

Unless you wear a "call me ma'am" tag...how would I know?

I generally don't call people by title though. I prefer to establish eye-contact first and take it from there.

 

[English Lady]

This is why I love living in Northern England -when in doubt say "love."

"excuse me, love" can be used for any many, woman or child for any reason.

 

[USMC03]

Respect

As I always say, it is respect to gender, not age....besides..I LOVE the older gals, ma'am....

 

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