LW/BTB Plot Device

[BubbleHeadHaole]

For authors who favor BTB stories, review the Supreme Court case of Caminetti v. United States. Even though a hundred years old, its use could be interesting for a period piece.

 

[Dutchsiska]

What is LW/BTB?

 

[BubbleHeadHaole]

Loving Wives / Burn The Bitch. In retrospect, I should have just said revenge.

 

[Dutchsiska]

revenge on who? the married wife, the mistress, the ex girlfriend, the ex wife, the husband, the father, the family, ....?


The daughter of a entrepreneur takes revenge on her father by having sex with his competitor, or his employees.

 

[DarkPleasures]

Burn the bitch? Wow.

 

[BubbleHeadHaole]

Revenge by wife against cheating husband or revenge by cuckolded husband against wife's lover. What I found interesting in this case was: (1) a man was convicted of adultery under a statute that was intended to protect against forced prostitution, and (2) as the law was interpreted in this case, adultery is a FEDERAL crime.

 

[Sean Renaud]

To be fair that's far from the ugliest thing we've seen said around here DP.

 

[DarkPleasures]

It might be. Just caught me off-guard. Also, I still don't know why people read "loving wives" if they hate the topic.

 

[lovecraft68]

I used to think the non consent section featured violence against women.

Its nothing compared to some of the garbage that happens to them in LW. More disturbing is the hate filled violent comments spewed by all the woman hating losers typing away in mom's basement.

Got so sick of it I wrote this.

BTB-my way-as in burn the bastard.

http://www.literotica.com/s/how-do-we-look-baby

Love how a few of the posters assume I'm female because this was a woman's revenge story.

I'm not one of course, but seeing I get pussy on a regular basis and don;t live with mom and have fantasies of getting back at the whole female race for being a loser, I guess they wouldn't consider me one of them.

I am grateful for that.

 

[BubbleHeadHaole]

My argument is not with the topic, but perhaps with the title. Wives are loving, to be sure. But can they be unfaithful, and still be called "wives"?

 

[Sean Renaud]

Of course they can. Wife is title, largely legal today. It has nothing to do with faithfulness.

I agree DP that people who don't like LW shouldn't read it and I completely tune out half the comments I get when I do wander into that arena. However I'm one of the people who every time it comes up I saw we need to split LW in two, create a Cuckold category so that Loving Wives can be about loving wives and not dirty cheating sluts. Because it seems like either way you go in that category you get a little screwed. Of course i'd also drop Non-Human. I can't think of anything you'd put in Non-Human that wouldn't work just fine as Sci-Fi anyway.

Yeah, the LW category is much rougher on women than Non-con as a general rule. Mostly because there is the psudo rule in Non-Con that she has to enjoy it and in LW the vengence part is separate from the sex so she ends up screwed so much worse than she could ever be in the Non-Con world.

 

[DarkPleasures]

But can they be unfaithful, and still be called "wives"?

Of course they can. I think the word you wish to challenge is "loving"; however, the category description explains what the category means.

 

[Dutchsiska]

I guess a wife can be a loving wife and a mistress at the same time. In Holland adultry is no longer a criminal fact, but still ground for a divorce. In the sixties a cheating man or wife could be convicted for adultry. There was however some kind of discrimination.

A woman could be caught on adultry everywhere, but a man could only be caught in his home. Statistcis the showed a higher number of cheating wives then cheating husbands, but that did not reflect the reality.

Lawmakers then changed this laws.

I thought that LW/BTB meant that a lady could love her husband but at the same time had secret lusts who she looked to satisfy outside her marriage or else the loving wife is just keeping up appearances, while she hates her husband/father and that what he represents and therefore looks to for sexual pleasures just to take revenge on the husband/father.

BTB is probably something like hatefucking.

Could you classify the movie 'Cruel intention' under the category: LW/BTB?

 

[DarkPleasures]

Cruel Intentions was fake incest. (Step relations.) Anyway, "burn the bitch" isn't part of the category title.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

It might be. Just caught me off-guard. Also, I still don't know why people read "loving wives" if they hate the topic.

For the same reason they rubber-neck car wrecks. We like to think we're better than we are.

 

[BubbleHeadHaole]

If a woman's extramarital dalliances are conducted by mutual agreement with her husband/partner, so be it. A woman who makes an UNWILLING cuckold of a FAITHFUL husband does not deserve to be called wife.

 

[DarkPleasures]

For the same reason they rubber-neck car wrecks. We like to think we're better than we are.

True, true. Plus, I think some people are not happy unless they're bitching/mad about something. *shrugs*

It is sad, though, that a clearly defined story category at Lit has "morphed" and changed due to the pissed off trolls who leave nasty Anon comments on someone's story and vote it down to a "1" because they're not happy in their own lives.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I've been at Lit pretty much since the beginning. I'm not sure Loving Wives really transformed at all, it's always been what it is and as popular as Cuckold and cheating wife stories are and have been since the beginning they really did rate a category and Romance was sufficient for ACTUAL loving wives.

If a woman's extramarital dalliances are conducted by mutual agreement with her husband/partner, so be it. A woman who makes an UNWILLING cuckold of a FAITHFUL husband does not deserve to be called wife.

In correct. Wife is a legal term, not a term of endearment. No action she can commit that doesn't result in a divorce renders her as not a wife. The same way you'd still be a Doctor even if you went on a murdering spree.

 

[Lynn_MXX]

Loving Wives / Burn The Bitch. In retrospect, I should have just said revenge.

No, you got it right. The term 'Burn the Bitch' is fast catching on in the forums

 

[Lynn_MXX]

I used to think the non consent section featured violence against women.

Doesn't it? Unfortunately, the full title of that tag is 'Non-Consent/Reluctance,' which is two completely different things and deserves to be tagged separately.

Loving Wives should be split into three categories:

i) Burn the Bitch stories
ii) Ladies who cheat on their husbands against their will or without their knowledge
iii) Ladies who are encouraged by their husbands to cheat or do so with their consent

Unfortunately, with tens of thousands of stories posted since the early 2000's, it would most likely be a logistical nightmare, so it won't happen any day soon

 

[lovecraft68]

Doesn't it? Unfortunately, the full title of that tag is 'Non-Consent/Reluctance,' which is two completely different things and deserves to be tagged separately.

Loving Wives should be split into three categories:

i) Burn the Bitch stories
ii) Ladies who cheat on their husbands against their will or without their knowledge
iii) Ladies who are encouraged by their husbands to cheat or do so with their consent

Unfortunately, with tens of thousands of stories posted since the early 2000's, it would most likely be a logistical nightmare, so it won't happen any day soon

There is another site -I won't mention the name-that has the same "no sexual violence, person has to enjoy it rule.

But....

Their category is called simply "reluctance" therefore it does not encourage people to post rape stories the way the words "non consent" do.

That site is obviously a lot more serious about not allowing rape stories, the rule here is a joke.

 

[Sean Renaud]

The rule here about no rape is a myth. It's not a joke, it's a myth that people who don't know what they are talking about repeat. You aren't allowed to write snuff and you aren't allowed to mutilate them while having sex. They don't have to enjoy it (though you'll occasionally stumble over a Mod that disagrees but often enough I've simply changed the name of the story and resubmitted)

As for splitting LW in three. That would be insane, we've got too many categories as is. However while it would be a long term project they could handle it the same way they handled tags and "rape" stories. Just put the word out trust the authors on one hand and the readers to report stuff on the other.

 

[Lynn_MXX]

As for splitting LW in three. That would be insane, we've got too many categories as is.

I totally disagree. The more categories we have, the better chance we have of finding something that we like. For example, I would be very interested in 'Reluctance' stories but would run a mile from the 'Non Consent' ones

 

[lovecraft68]

I totally disagree. The more categories we have, the better chance we have of finding something that we like. For example, I would be very interested in 'Reluctance' stories but would run a mile from the 'Non Consent' ones

I'm in the same boat, reluctance I enjoy, some sleazy blackmail, a little coercion, I like as long as fun is had once things get going.

But in that category because it encourages non consent, you don't know what you will stumble into.

If you like reluctance here is my one endeavor in that category.

http://www.literotica.com/s/sweet-reluctance

as for breaking categories down into sub categories? First it will never happen because the site is beyond even fixing the current issues never mind adding anything

But it would also cause endless sub categories. For instance are you going to break incest into Mother/son daddy/daughter bro/sis.....

GM into twink or bear or first time....

In most categories the tag line or title can help you determine if its what you like, but loving wives is really just a uniquely problematic category.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I totally disagree. The more categories we have, the better chance we have of finding something that we like. For example, I would be very interested in 'Reluctance' stories but would run a mile from the 'Non Consent' ones

While I don't think Noncon and Reluctance are sufficiently different to warrant separate categories. I kinda see your point.

That said what possible reason is there for sci fi and non-human to be separate on a site that doesn't allow bestiality. Anything that is non-human is by defintion Sci-Fi and neither category has enough stories to make finding what you want difficult.