Lost

sweet soft kiss said:
If they do that it will be akin the last shot of St. Elsewhere, where everything we had seen was just the imagination of an autistic child. I am still totally pissed by that series ending.

THAT had to be the WORST ending to a series ever !
 
Faneros said:
No worse than that Bobby Ewing dream storyline.....but that's going way back.

Both of those were pissers!

The first season end of Joan of Arcadia was like this:

I'm sick. Why am I sick? God wasn't talking to me all this time? He didn't bend me out of shape over and over again? It was delusions due to Lyme disease? Crap!

Fury :rose:
 
sweet soft kiss said:
And if they end LOST as a death/Hell/Pergutory story I will be feel abused and used.

well you will get your answers in 3 years, the producers want 48 more episodes, finally we know when this will end.


Lost producers sign on for three more seasons
May 7, 2007

ABC has set an end date for "Lost."

The Emmy-winning adventure series will run for 48 more episodes over three seasons. Each season will consist of 16 episodes, which will air uninterrupted....


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr...sion/news/e3ie9108c1dc34a16ea95114aea6c08848c
 
Three more seasons? Damn... I think they'll have to stretch it to make it last that long. I'd have been happier with one or two more seasons so that we finally get answers.
 
Faneros said:
No worse than that Bobby Ewing dream storyline.....but that's going way back.
Bests show ending ever: Bob Newhart waking up with Suzanne Pleshette on Newhart.
 
lightning1 said:
Bests show ending ever: Bob Newhart waking up with Suzanne Pleshette on Newhart.


I loved that one!!!!... now why did that one amuse me when the St. Elsewhere pissed me off?
 
DéjàNu said:
well you will get your answers in 3 years, the producers want 48 more episodes, finally we know when this will end.
That's assuming the rating's hold up, if not, then it's gonzo!!
 
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Originally Posted by AltYou're going to believe what they say? Producers are in it for the money and nothing more. This same group said that everything that happens on the show can be explained rationally. How can you rationally explain a black cloud picking up a human and throwing him around, killing him in the process? Didn't look like a tornado to me. Trying to figure out this show is playing into the hands of the producers.



Generally I end up feeling as if I just keep losing whatever thread I think I have found regarding Lost.
But I always come back to some chunks of quantum physics (at least thats what I think covers the following factors).

Production of anti-matter... The island seems to feature a large circular system of underground bunkers and tunnels. Huge circular electro-magnet based generators (particle accelerators ?)are used to manufacture anti-matter. I think the largest existing one in in (Cerne?) Switzerland. Apparently it is a reality in research areas nowadays. Dharma involvement there ?, in the anitmatter area ?
Why ?...???? I know not. Profit ?

Also, I think these 'machines have to be discharged at regular intervals, otherwise it is 'boom time' through overload and antimatter leakage.
In the bits where the countdown was allowed to run down we saw things folding in , imploding, not just exploding...that might fit with an antimatter/matter interface.
We have seen keys, knives, forks etc. etc drawn to the underground magnetic field.

The Black Cloud/Monster... That would fit with some representations of nano-technology. It is proposed that one day minute nano-bots will be prorammable to work in cohesive swarms to operate as any form they have been programmed to... They would literally form self assembling machines capable of any form required and any function programmed.
Nano technolgy would also fit with the curing of cancer etc... it is one of the ways nanotech is seen as being used in medicine. ie that unlike chemo, nano therapy will involve the deliberate programmed destruction of specific cancer cell types whilst leaving the appropriate healthy cells alive.
Nano tech, could also be used to explain odds and ends like Locke walking, Rose (?) recovering. Sun's pregnancy, if attributed to jin. Maybe even Mikhail turning up again. Perhaps the micro bots, which are apparently now reality, managed to carry out repairs to injured tissue even micro surgery couldn't handle, or perhaps effect some nano based cell replication based on the available DNA coding and cell memory in each of the lucky 'patients'...
It would also be a useful ploy to expain way all the polar bear stuff, the wandering horses, the various people who have been seen by Hurley, Jack etc wandering round the island...in that it is thought that one day nano-bots will be able to assume any form when they swarm and respond to a programmed instruction. Maybe they have been 'written' so they read memory on a cellular level, or even synaptic electrical level. (But why weren't they able to heal Ben's Tumour ? Hmmmmmm )..
I know all that reads like pure sci-fi, but from what I have read it is now science fact, or well on the road to being so. The medical uses of nanobots are regarded as some of the most exciting, and probably profitable , aspects of the whole area. 'Oddly enough' there is also huge military interest in nanotech and anti matter.
A lot of this might be absolute cobblers...It just coalesced from various bits read over the decades, and I am no physicist...not by a long shot.
sorry if it bored your asses off.
 
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sweet soft kiss said:
If they do that it will be akin the last shot of St. Elsewhere, where everything we had seen was just the imagination of an autistic child. I am still totally pissed by that series ending.

What did they care? They got years of loyal viewership to sell advertsing and sponsorship. That's all it is about. Television is not art.
 
Shamanskiss said:
A lot of this might be absolute cobblers...It just coalesced from various bits read over the decades, and I am no physicist...not by a long shot.
sorry if it bored your asses off.

Dude, I asked to rationally explain the black cloud grabbing Eko and thrashing him about. Nanotechnology is an interesting concept to throw into the show, but that is such a virgin science right now. It's one thing to be implausible, another to be flat out sci-fi.

Point being the producers had no idea this show would be so large. Now they are playing catch up while trying to squeeze as much pulp from the viewing audience they can before the show sails into the horizon.

It's

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Alt said:
It's

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money

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I think that would probably cover most things since the invention of the printing press.
I don't think I would waste too much time linking 'rational' to Lost and its twists and turns.
It has a premise that two ( for now) groups of surviviors walked away from what happened to that plane.
The way it came apart, height and speed it hit at, that seems very unlikely.
Even on water the plane would have needed a glide in for anyone to walk away.
Of course it is about money, it is TV.
Hell, the news isn't even rational most of the time.
 
Shamanskiss said:
I think that would probably cover most things since the invention of the printing press. I don't think I would waste too much time linking 'rational' to Lost and its twists and turns. It has a premise that two ( for now) groups of surviviors walked away from what happened to that plane.
The way it came apart, height and speed it hit at, that seems very unlikely.
Even on water the plane would have needed a glide in for anyone to walk away.
Of course it is about money, it is TV. Hell, the news isn't even rational most of the time.

Agreed! Yet the problem with Lost is that the producers propped up their huge egos with the fragile rhetoric that everything on the show could be explained rationally and realistically. In other words, they wanted their viewers to bow down to their artistic greatness, when the actual reality is that they just took a swing at a tv show and popped one over the fence. Now the viewers are expecting bigger things at each turn, and the producers are rarely getting wood on the ball.
 
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Alt said:
Agreed! Yet the problem with Lost is that the producers propped up their huge egos with the fragile rhetoric that everything on the show could be explained rationally and realistically. In other words, they wanted their viewers to bow down to their artistic greatness, when the actual reality is that they just took a swing at a tv show and popped one over the fence. Now the viewers are expecting bigger things at each turn, and the producers are rarely getting wood on the ball.


I think Lost is as close to a retro written series at it can get without benefit of a time machine.
It woudn't surprise me if the writers have teams to monitor the net, fan mags etc, so they can pick up on new and prevailing theories then write round them.
Wouldn't be too shocked if the actors get their lines or rewrites , at times, when they're on set ready to shoot...
Maybe that gap in the schedule a while back was to facillitate a major plot shift...
They have to keep the interest hich, they're merchandising like crazy now as well. There is even a range of lost action figures, from what I have heard...think its the Spawn toy people who do them.
( if they market LOST in-flight luggage and document wallets etc, no way am I buying....)
 
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tonight...

‘The Man Behind the Curtain’
Ben begrudgingly introduces Locke to the island's secrets, including mysterious Jacob; Juliet's secret goes public.
 
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Doesn't look good for Locke, fatal gunshot wound, no one around to help, well, perhaps Jacob, if thats possible.
 
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Could there be any connection between the death of Ben's mother and the pregnancy research they do on the island? Could that be why Ben is so driven by that?
 
yogiforlife said:
Could there be any connection between the death of Ben's mother and the pregnancy research they do on the island? Could that be why Ben is so driven by that?
That's exactly what I was thinking.
 
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Although Ben's mother was at seven months, which is 3rd trimester, Juliette specifically said none of the women on the island make it to the 3rd trimester.

It could be that the whole pregnancy problem is being controlled by Ben's mind, wanting everyone to feel what he felt, although when the mother dies the baby dies also so that differs from what happened to Ben. Perhaps he's heard some prophecy that a child would be born who would be even more powerful than him, so he feels the need to eliminate them all.
 
Last night was highly enjoyable. I liked Ben's background a good deal, even if it did make me think of Jonestown. I like watching Michael Emerson play half-space cadet, half-vicious bastard, and he and Terry O'Quinn play well off each other, so last night was fun.

Wow, Richard didn't age at all, did he?

Why did baby Ben have a 1990s backpack if he's forty-plus? They showed the bag quite a few times, so I can't believe it was a gaffe.

Sawyer and Sayid working together = Good times, no matter how short.
 
So thats the volkswagon van Hurley found. Sayid knows all, he was right about Ben in the first place, nothing gets past this man.
 
Locke is not really dead is he ?! :(


I know what I saw last night how Ben shot him and he fell into the pit of skeletons but he can not be dead ... he was my favorite !


Oh' and I hate Ben - he just irkes me so badly. :mad:

I hate him !
 
In the flash of Jacob in the chair, did it look to you like he had a gaping head wound?

Was that trail of dust a dead Smoke Monster?

Can the Island save Locke from a gut shot?

And what about Naomi?
 
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