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SgtSpiderMan said:
So again, why isn’t Trump keeping his campaign promise and as you said why is he not using the common sense way and deporting violent immigrants first? Why are you OK with letting Trump let violent members of a Venezuelan gang stay in the country?

If English is not your first language I can translate it for you.
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He is!
 
icanhelp1 said:
Deporting violent criminals and those that have deportation orders is the common sense way to start.
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Then why didn't he start that way?

ICE agents have been arresting immigrants showing up for their scheduled hearings in immigration court.

That is not defensible.
 
SgtSpiderMan said:
Yeah, you’re still wrong and still having a hard time with the English language. If English is not your first language I can translate for you.

No one ever claimed that Trump said he would only deport violent immigrants, again, Trump said multiple times, he would deport them FIRST. He’s not doing tha.

So again, I’m asking why you are OK with violent immigrants getting a pass from Trump while he goes after people who are not violent?
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After assuming office, the administration said it would prioritize violent criminals but that anyone in the US illegally is subject to deportation. Feel free to cite a report quoting Trump on the campaign trail saying violent criminals first.
 
icanhelp1 said:
PVT dumbfuck loves to play word games. I even provided a video, I believe taken 5 days before election day, that shows Trump reiteration his mass deportation campaign promise and pvt1 still argues. Deporting violent criminals and those that have deportation orders is the common sense way to start.
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Yeah, he’s a little slow. This isn’t the first time I’ve schooled him.
 
BabyBoomer50s said:
After assuming office, the administration said it would prioritize violent criminals but that anyone in the US illegally is subject to deportation. Feel free to cite a report quoting Trump on the campaign trail saying violent criminals first.
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So we are in full agreement that you were wrong and Trump did campaign on deporting violent immigrants FIRST and does not have the mandate you claimed he did.

Glad we settled that.
 
There are at least 11 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S.

Trump does not have any mandate to deport them all.
 
Politruk said:
Then why didn't he start that way?

ICE agents have been arresting immigrants showing up for their scheduled hearings in immigration court.

That is not defensible.
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Don't immigration courts have bailiffs? If I were an immigration judge, I would have any ICE agent who tried to do that arrested for contempt.
 
Politruk said:
There are at least 11 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S.

Trump does not have any mandate to deport them all.
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He promised “the largest deportation in American history.” He doesn’t need to deport all of them to meet that promise, nor will he be able to deport them all. The message to would be illegal border crossers in foreign countries has been received. The massive influx of unlawful border crossings has evaporated.
 
icanhelp1 said:
Doesn't need a mandate, he has the law.

There's more than 11 million.

You made a claim that ICE was instructed. DHS refuted that claim
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Baby already admitted he was wrong and there was no mandate.

I asked a question, you’ve refuted nothing.

Why are you cool with Trump not going after all the violent immigrants he said are here?
 
SgtSpiderMan said:
Baby already admitted he was wrong and there was no mandate.

I asked a question, you’ve refuted nothing.
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You worded a sentence in the form of a question based on a false premise. I didn’t refute it, DHS did.
SgtSpiderMan said:
Why are you cool with Trump not going after all the violent immigrants he said are here?
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Trump is cool with going after all violent criminals.
 
icanhelp1 said:
There's more than 11 million.
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Not really.

According to the nonpartisan Pew Research Center, the number rose rapidly in the 1990s, "from an estimated 3.5 million in 1990 to a peak of 12.2 million in 2007," then dropped sharply during the Great Recession before stabilizing in 2009.[6] Pew estimated the total population to be 11.1 million in 2014, or approximately 3 percent of the US population.[7][6][8] This "is in the same ballpark" as figures from the United States Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which estimated that 11.4 million undocumented immigrants lived in the United States in January 2012.[3][9] The estimate and trends are also consistent with figures reported by the Center for Migration Studies, which reported that the US undocumented immigrant population fell to 10.9 million by January 2016, the lowest number since 2003.[10] A 2018 paper by three Yale School of Management professors estimated that the undocumented immigrant population was in the range of 16 million to 29 million,[11] however, the methodology presented in this study has been criticized as leading to vastly overstated results.[11]
 
icanhelp1 said:
You worded a sentence in the form of a question based on a false premise. I didn’t refute it, DHS did.

Trump is cool with going after all violent criminals.
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Still waiting on that cite.

Trump isn’t cool with it because he isn’t doing it. We know this because ICE agents aren’t going after violent immigrants, they’re going after people at Home Depot and baseball games.

You’re still avoiding a very straightforward question.
 
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