Loosing-you-virginity-question

[BlackSnake]

Snake, you should have repeated pussy again at the end of that last sentence (it follows the first above); you don't seem all that concerned with the cunt's owner as a person.

So you're a cunt connoisseur. Big fucking deal, but then you don't have to converse with that mouth (you lucked out).

Perdita

You are correct, Perdita. I should have ended the sentence with pussy.

I'm not a fool. I wouldn't get any if she wouldn't allow me to. Take my comments in whole, not in parts. It's a comparison between a woman's pussy and a man's hand.

 

[Guest]

It's a comparison between a woman's pussy and a man's hand.

I understood that, very well. P.

 

[Pure]

Weird stuff.

Some postings, IMO, will guarantee Snoop another ten years of celibacy. Because of their lack of relation to the reality being spoken of.

Taking a few at random.

Most everyone's point, and Snoop's desire it seems, is that sex with real communication and intimacy is primary here (in Snoop's circumstance).-P

This was NOT stated as Snoop's desire in the first posting. In the second he said he'd like that, but would or might settle for less (roughly).

The writer and most posters are superimposing their tastes. As if the question was "Should I try Sushi?" and someone says, "I hate it." Or worse, "I think I'd hate it and you would too." Neglecting to add, "Haven't tried it." As opposed to "Do you like a 'fishy' taste? Do you like raw clams?"

I was with the right person for the experience we both wanted, and it was a very positive one. It was an experience based on feelings, both mine and hers. -SW

Here's an example of superimposition, how good an emotionally laden sexual experience was, for SW, is held to be relevant. But Snoop's question was not "Would good sex, in an intimate caring situation be good for me?"

Even *were* it relevant, and even *were* it preferable to Snoop, that doesn't address a possibly 'make do' situation--which is the present reality Snoop described.

I would wait and make sure it is with the right person-M

Of course you would. It's a common women's desire, or, for some, at least a theoretical goal before experience occurs. Snoop was talking about a stop gap; what does 'making sure it's the right person' have to do with anything? Is this a one shot experiment?

On many other threads a majority of persons have rated intelligence and humor as primary qualities for attraction. -P

Many, esp. women, SAY, physical attractiveness is not primary.
Yet one must look at their actions. (Note, Did they actually say, "rotting teeth don't matter"?)

BUT, let's assume intelligence and humor ARE tremendously important. But that's pretty useless info, if it's taken in one obvious direction:

Do we tell Snoop: "Acquire intelligence and humor"? Not an easy task, if at all possible.

Ted's advice to take a shower and clean the place is more useful, IMO. Then ASSUMING Snoop has intelligence and humor, and meets the 'right sort', he'll be in business.

Do we say, "Be confident your intelligence and humor will save the day"? Well, they haven't so far. Maybe he's shy and needs to work on it, so "Be confident..." if it leads to expectant waiting, is poor advice.

you [BS]don't seem all that concerned with the cunt's owner as a person.

Let's see. BS does not agree men should always seek loving sex. So he's a pig and objectivizer.

And that means we, wanting 'correctness', as moral individuals, simply don't listen to his piggish rantings.

While I don't deny that manners may be relevant to Snoop's success, I think the huge emphasis on them or particularly on 'respect' is quite misguided. I suspect he has a little too much 'respect'--places women on a pedestal where they become not even kissable.

He should talk and listen, yes, but it would be good to keep in mind that these women bear some fine pussy that they may be quite willing to contribute to the cause (of defloration and debauchery.)

But wait. That won't get Snoop love, and isn't that what life's all about?

Chorus of "All you need is love!"

 

[BlackSnake]

Dude - here is my advice to you, not just comments to posts.

Put yourself in contact with women. Keep your eyes and ears open. Opportunties for love and sex are where you find them. Be yourself, however that is. People often over act and it shows. Don't try to force anything, it will make your situation worse. If you decide to go with a professional, weigh your risk carefully. It could be a life or death decision.

BlackSnake

 

[Guest]

Ok, Snoop. You've heard from the grand poobah, his pureness and the judge of all of us. Guess there's no more to say.

best always, Perdita

 

[SnoopDog]

... Some postings, IMO, will guarantee Snoop another ten years of celibacy.....

Oh hell no. That is my biggest fear. Honestly. The fear of being in this situation for a long period of time really puts me down.

...Do we tell Snoop: "Acquire intelligence and humor"? Not an easy task, if at all possible....

The irony is: I already got that.

Hey at least I started a thread that I enjoy reading myself
and that has made it to more than four pages.


Snoopy

 

[snooper]

... That is my biggest fear. ...

Then my advice still stands. Go to a licensed cat house and sort it out before it becomes even more of a hang-up.
There is a real danger that you won't be able to take advantage of finding "the right girl" if you get hung up about virginity.

Now if I might just hijack the thread for a moment:

... and it isn't even in my Concise Oxford (though 'ineffable' is). ...

Shorter Oxford says:
effable /"Ef@b(@)l/ a.
E17. {Obs. Fr., or L effabilis, f. effari to utter, f. EF- + fari speak: see - ABLE. Cf. earlier INEFFABLE.}
That can or may be expressed or described in words. Now only in antithesis to ineffable.

 

[Pure]

Snoop D.,

Pure: //..Do we tell Snoop: "Acquire intelligence and humor"? Not an easy task, if at all possible....
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The irony is: I already got that.

Of course. I assumed that; That's the reason I said, reassuring you about it, or saying it's of primary importance is not really helpful. We have to ask, "What would prevent the success of someone who is intelligent and funny?" There are several possible answers, and more than one may be true.

Ted E might be helpful, IMO, since he focusses on practicalities that might get ignored.

Black S might be helpful, in that he's saying something like I was:
go after it; put yourself in contact with females. Similarly, I suggested there was a 'fear' or 'shyness' factor, and, if that's true, it has to be dealt with; then get out there.

The conversation you recount with the 35 yr old who's 'taken' reminds me of earlier years. There are two possibilities:

Sex is an issue:
It does not matter if she's 'taken' or whatever; the key thing is, Is she interested in sex with you. That should be asked/broached directly (or indicated without words). Some simple things should usually NOT be asked, e.g. touching, kissing, etc.-- but a desire indicated, without forcing.

Sex is not an issue: She is simply your friend, forever your confidant. In which case, maybe she has some advice or maybe can set you up with her niece, or whatever.

The scene suggests something Black S mentioned. Setting. If you're only with 'taken' females, it's harder (unless they're advertising for affairs). You have to put yourself where there are potential responders to your requests/desires.


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As to the professional, I differ slightly with BlackS and others posters. Given certain assumptions, the risks of contracting AIDS from a prostitute are very small indeed. (The 'death' you're warned of, continually, around here.) You could refer to statistics and cases in your country. In North America, female to male, heterosexual transmission is usually between a drug addicted female (who may be a prostitute) and her boyfriend or client. Her race may be a statistical variable of relevance.

If you were to factor in condoms and 'safe sex' generally, and remove 'street solicitation' as a setting, I suspect you'd end up with a miniscule number of female-prostitute-to-male cases, in your country. Against that, let's say 100 cases [hypotheticall] {new cases a year}, divide by the number of fuckings or prostitute fuckings {in a year}, and you see the odds.

 

[gauchecritic]

alternatives (some serious)

Right, you have intelligence and humour, not bad looking, prefer geeky to fashion model. From that description you practically have it made.

How about learning to play guitar and becoming incredibly famous, then you'll be beating them off (or vice versa)

Go on holiday and become someone else for a week or so. Literally. Be brazen and forthright, think of a line and in the course of a night use the same one on every girl you like the look of. (if it's a good line it's bound to work at least once) Wear clothes that you wouldn't ordinarily be seen dead in. Comb your hair differently (or don't comb it or have a ridiculous haircut) Grow a beard or shave it off, put on a wedding ring (it's actually attractive sometimes in a rogueish sort of way). Speak loudly, or with a deeper than ordinary voice (if you go for deep speak slowly and quietly). It's only a week, you don't have to go back if you feel like a fool.

Buy a book on body language (Alan Pease has written several) and find out what the signals are in case you've been missing them.

A serious alternative would be to frequent somewhere where you will come into contact with older women (like 50 upwards) and (having studied the book) make yourself known to be willing. As with the popular phenomenon of 'men prefer younger women' (a grave generalisation) it is also true for a percentage of older women that they prefer younger men.

Become a stripper.

Buy pheromones.

Ask. The worst that can happen is that they'll tell you to "Fuck off you dirty pervert." in the loudest possible way.

Gauche (who was once young and angst ridden)

 

[Pure]

Jeezus,
I find myself agreeing with gauche (check some other settings, be presentable, and ASK). I must have contracted the West Nile or Lhasa fever or somethin'.

 

[Guest]

Jeezus,
I find myself agreeing with gauche (check some other settings, be presentable, and ASK).

I know what you mean. He & I both mentioned books on body language and older women.

I wonder if there'd be any value for Snoop to go over to the General Board one night, and start a thread "Any German Girls Want My Cherry?"

Or maybe that's a good start for a story idea...

 

[gauchecritic]

I know what you mean. He & I both mentioned books on body language and older women.

I wonder if there'd be any value for Snoop to go over to the General Board one night, and start a thread "Any German Girls Want My Cherry?"

Or maybe that's a good start for a story idea...

Better yet, sell it on EBay.(purchaser to pay P&P, caveat emptor, offer may be invalid in certain states, contents may settle in transit) Another story idea...

Gauche

P.S I take back everything else I said that Pure agreed with. (correction: with which Pure agreed.)

 

[BlackSnake]

I know what you mean. He & I both mentioned books on body language and older women.

I wonder if there'd be any value for Snoop to go over to the General Board one night, and start a thread "Any German Girls Want My Cherry?"

Or maybe that's a good start for a story idea...

That's a really good idea, but you'll still have to becareful. Not of aids, but maybe of having your ankles broken and tied to a bed.

 

[Guest]

That's a really good idea, but you'll still have to becareful. Not of aids, but maybe of having your ankles broken and tied to a bed.

My tongue was firmly in cheek.

Not to say, I wouldn't follow the thread if he did it.

 

[SnoopDog]

Oliver Stone revealed in a Playboy interview that he lost his virginity to a professional. His dad even paid for it since he went to a all-guy-school and never got around to meeting girls.

He says he liked it and is very grateful for it.

Oh well, I know my father wouldn't pay for it even if I got the balls to ask, lol.

Snoopy

 

[SnoopDog]

I wonder if there'd be any value for Snoop to go over to the General Board one night, and start a thread "Any German Girls Want My Cherry?"

Well, if you can find a german chick on here you'd get a reward.

Then again, I wouldn't mind reading a story about that.

Snoopy

 

[Guest]

I saw the Oliver Stone story and thought of you. Wonder what made him reveal this at this time? You don't suppose Oliver Stone lurks here do you?

Hey, Oliver, I gotta a film treatment for you. PM me.

Seriously SnoopDog, just keep meeting women, be kind, considerate and yourself and things will happen. Amazing things. I know it is hard to be patient, but do be patient.

 

[SnoopDog]

I saw the Oliver Stone story and thought of you. Wonder what made him reveal this at this time? You don't suppose Oliver Stone lurks here do you?

Hey, Oliver, I gotta a film treatment for you. PM me.

Seriously SnoopDog, just keep meeting women, be kind, considerate and yourself and things will happen. Amazing things. I know it is hard to be patient, but do be patient.

Yeah, I will. By the way, I thought the exact same thing. Kinda strange.

If you read this Oliver. PM Ted-E-Bare, he's got a film treatment.



And I'd like to write a script or screenplay for you as well.

Snoopy