Looking to kick off a shared world of 'naked sword / sorcery fantasy'

[tenyari]

I'm looking for stories set in the idea of a shared fantasy-genre world that is also a naked world.

Think of the old graphic novel 'Den' by Richard Corben if the above is something that makes no sense to you, or imagine if the Conan / Red Sonja stories were in a world without clothing.

That's what I'm shooting for.

Something akin to a world where:
- It is a naked world. Anything 'clothing' is limited to things like belts, harnesses, hats, capes, shoes, and the like, or total nudity.
- Magic is prevalent, and comes from sex and sex energy
- There is no difference between 'divine/arcane' magic
- The world is mostly human, but not fully so.

Any takers, any interest?

 

[Carnevil9]

Just about any issue of "Heavy Metal" should fit your bill.......Carney

 

[atlusreign]

Forgive my newbness

I'm a bit unclear on what you're looking for. Where do other people come in during the creation of this world. If you wish to start a shared world then don't you have to start it, then invite other writers to come play? Do you want a collaborator from the start? Are you just seeing if anyone is interested? I could be interested, though its hard to say with nothing on the table other then a concept. Let me know.

 

[tenyari]

Seeing if anyone is interested.

That said I -have- started it but the TOS here forbids posting the URLs to other places, even non-commercial mailing lists...

So I'm not sure how I can go about connecting people interested here with a shared world project...

 

[DarkBee]

I have an 8-part Fantasy serie that's still unfinished on here you might borrow something from...

 

[tenyari]

I don't think I can post my mailing list, but can I post some of the details of the setting I'm thinking of?

Here's a teaser:

ErosSharedWorld is a fantasy genre setting.

What does that mean? If you do not know I suggest reading some fantasy before participating. Key inspirations for a setting like Eros might be such works as:

Conan and Red Sonja
Witch World
Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser
Thieve's World
The Elric Saga
Den
As well as much of what you might find in the Fantasy section of your local, hopefully still independantly owned, bookstore.

The Eros genre can take inspiration from just about any fantasy and still be legitimate within the Eros world.

Eros stories are however, set to a few basic themes, many of these are expanded on in other articles and group discussion:

- The world is generally human. Non humans are the minority.
- Humans are the original sentient race, although origins are unknown to the people of Eros, barring a few rare sages, the other races of offshoots resulting from magic or divine intervention in the affairs of humanity. Whether or not this is true for dragons can remain unstated.
- It is a naked world, everyone is generally nude.
- Magic is prevalent, and comes from sexual expression / energy
- There is no difference between 'divine/arcane' magic
- Technology is of a general fantasy-era nature. Think of the Iron/Steel Age, minus the guns and gunpowder. Pockets of the world are more primative.
- The world is warm to hot where people live. There is no secret that lets anyone survive the cold. When the world went nude, everyone living in a cold climate simply died.

 

[tenyari]

Another piece I thought up, for magic:

Eros is a big world, there's room for many methods of magic. But that said there are a few basic principle common to all magic in Eros:

1. Mages are born to power. Only the mage born can learn magic.
2. Magical energy -only- comes from having sex - solo, with another, orgy, etc.
3. Most mages are female. But the exact level of majority varies by tradition.
4. magic can do anything fitting for classic swords and sorcery fantasy as well as modern epic fantasy literature. There is no innate split to styles of magic. Styles come about from different methods of training and different social customs built around the same basic energy.
5. magic is a natural energy of the world of eros. It is not purely understood, but it is known to be something as central to Eros as 'electromagnetics' is to real world physics. It is not outside or alien or otherworldly, it is a part of the natural order. As such there is no built in division between 'arcane/secular' and 'divine' - though that might be assumed in different traditions.

Magic and Sex:
Magic is built up and stored through sexual stimulation. In different traditions an orgasm will either charge up a lot of magic or release a lot of magic. The tantric tradition, sort of the Yin to the normal Yang of magic, build up through denial of an orgasm.

The more public the sex act, and the more people involved, the more energy that is built up.

A mage gains an almost instant boost in energy from sex, enough so that attempting to force oneself on a mage is a sure way to get burned to a crisp, even if the mage was out of energy at the start.

Beyond this how much magic and how long it lasts from what type of sex act can vary by tradition, region, and mage to mage.

Magical Traditions:
There are countless different traditions for magic around the world. Each of them has a different idea of what a mage can do and how she does it. Each might have different rules for rituals, magical effects, scale of power, ease of control, and so on. Essentially, authors are free to create their magic systems and label them as long as the other rules here are kept to. When labeling a system, give it a name that is a combination of a style and region, like: <br><i>"Summoning the Thanilian way"</i>
I put the 'style' first for ease of sorting.

Mage Protectors:
Many mages in many traditions have non magical protectors bonded to them in youth. These 'life mates' are bound in many different ways and have many different levels of free will. Often they are trained warriors. Very often they cannot survive the death of the mage. Mages can gain energy by having their bonded servants have sex. They can also keep some energy on reserve on that servant, and 'suck it out' later. If the bonded servant dies, all of this energy immediately goes to the mage.

Mage Lifepans:
Mages live very, very long, and they are in their physical prime until mere months before passing. The same is true of any bonded servant who has been with them for more than a decade.

Magical Items:
Magical energy can be enchanted into items as well. mages trained to enchant items can make magical items normally, though they need sexual stimulation to do so. It is best if this stimulation comes from the person who is to recieve the item. Every tradition will have its own ideas of what can be enchanted and how. Some might make magic swords, others potions, others fortune cards, and some might do several or all of these.



Ancient Magic:
Once, many thousands of years ago, before the world changed and the clothing curse came about, there were non sexual sources of magic. Some of the magic stored from that era still lingers in ancient artifacts, but mages who know how to harness it do not normally exist.

Obviously doing a shared world takes up more discussion space than a thread on a forum, so I'm not sure where I could go with this all here...

But, I'm writing stories in this now, I've got one out there, pending here, and another is in writing. And I'm always looking for more fantasy genre erotica with a nudity theme.

 

[atlusreign]

I have a few minor quips and a couple of questions. Lets start with the questions. What is to come of this shared world. Should I be interested, am I to write stories in it which will be posted somewhere? Are we going to publish a collected novel at some point. Who has the rights to these stories? Is this for an RPG or just stories? Well, thats more than a couple. My quips. How do you build sexual tension in a nude society? The mages in this world are cut off from their greatest power source. If all magic is sex based then the more sexual energy the better. If everyone sees everything all the time then there is no build up. Sex would be much more trivial in this world than in a clothed world. Imagine if they were clothed. A mage could walk into a room of hardened warriors, disrobe, and gain a massive amount of power. As it stands she'd need to fuck half the bar just to levitate.

 

[tenyari]

I'm operating under this notion:

Once a story is written for Eros it cannot be revoked for private publication elsewhere. It will always remain in the Eros community. World of Eros stories may never be sold. If included in a collection somewhere there must be a link back a free source of the story in a place that can be seen before the sollection is purchased.

Further, anything which uses outside copyrighted material or fan fiction would also be forbidden.

In other words, I'm looking for shared fiction online in a common theme, not for a way for someone to make a buck off of people or exploit the creative rights of others...


If the premise of a nude world doesn't appeal to you, if that's not itself a hook for you, then obviously this idea isn't the genre for you.

My interest is in a nude world genre, not stripping fiction. That's a bit of why I list 'Den' among my inspirations.

Also, I would say that:

As it stands she'd need to fuck half the bar just to levitate.

Is -NOT- how I would see what I wrote, and is not consistent with my inwork story for this.

The way I've seen a more public act is getting a larger fill of the battery - for going longer, and maybe for more story-dramatic moments.

But I have left out specifics for a reason, to try and get more author creativity. Especially in a shared project, I think its important to allow for as much variety between authors and stories as the genre can stand and still hold together.

 

[atlusreign]

I'm operating under this notion:

Once a story is written for Eros it cannot be revoked for private publication elsewhere. It will always remain in the Eros community. World of Eros stories may never be sold. If included in a collection somewhere there must be a link back a free source of the story in a place that can be seen before the sollection is purchased.

Further, anything which uses outside copyrighted material or fan fiction would also be forbidden.

In other words, I'm looking for shared fiction online in a common theme, not for a way for someone to make a buck off of people or exploit the creative rights of others...


If the premise of a nude world doesn't appeal to you, if that's not itself a hook for you, then obviously this idea isn't the genre for you.

My interest is in a nude world genre, not stripping fiction. That's a bit of why I list 'Den' among my inspirations.

Also, I would say that:
Is -NOT- how I would see what I wrote, and is not consistent with my inwork story for this.

The way I've seen a more public act is getting a larger fill of the battery - for going longer, and maybe for more story-dramatic moments.

But I have left out specifics for a reason, to try and get more author creativity. Especially in a shared project, I think its important to allow for as much variety between authors and stories as the genre can stand and still hold together.

If the concept didn't interest me I wouldn't ask you questions. I am asking you to elaborate on a concept you've established. If you have a problem with doing that then there will be almost no world cohesion between stories. Vague is one thing, plot holes are another. If you've already written things in this world then you must have mapped out how this works logically. I am asking to see that logic. I use the girl in the bar as an example. If I am mistaken in the way your magic works then show me the error.

 

[emap]

Oddly enough I have a similar story boinking around in my brain at the moment for later writing. I've not said anything before now cause it's different than what you are thinking, I'll have clothes and armor, and magic will have two types still, healing requires sex, and the combat magics will work more like regular Dungeons and Dragons.

I want to have the sex, but I wanna blow stuff up to, really give myself territory for description.

Anyway I'm thinking maybe we should get together and bounce idea's off each other, our worlds aren't terribly compatible but we're still doing rather the same thing.

I started a thread a while back, I'm really slow at writing, though there was a number of good idea's in there. I don't remember what I titled it but a search for the threads I've started will have you looking at it quick, I don't normally start threads.

 

[Monazwx]

Ok, this has a good premise, but I guess due to my lack of knowledge of the "Den", etc. I'm a bit confused. Is there a plot around here somewhere? I get the mages, mage protectors, etc. but where exactly is the conflict coming from? Are the non-human jealous of the sexual power of the humans/mages, etc. Someone help me out please?

 

[LadynStFreknBed]

Oddly enough I have a similar story boinking around in my brain at the moment for later writing. I've not said anything before now cause it's different than what you are thinking, I'll have clothes and armor, and magic will have two types still, healing requires sex, and the combat magics will work more like regular Dungeons and Dragons.

LOL omg. There must be some twisted magic in the air. A few weeks ago, I started playing with the same idea. I even dug out my D&D manuals.
(Yes, I admit it. I own them.)

-Sheila

 

[sunandshadow]

Might make more sense if mages went around nude but warriors didn't. I dunno about you but attempting to swing a sword or even just a fist without wearing at least a bra (for a female character) or a jockstrap/loincloth thingy (for a male character). Just breaks my suspension of disbelief as strategic stupidity.

 

[tenyari]

Mailing list noted in my sig unless I'm told at some point that's not allowed.

Lets see...

On the first one... I guess I was thinking that sex is just what Mages do to charge up. In the occult one might dance around chickens, do yoga, play with chakras, eat vegan (or eat vegans), etc... to get their magic 'buzz'. In fantasy, you see mages who sacrifice virgins, Eros mages might have other things they need to do with virgins... Maybe where you might have thought of burning a candle, an Eros mage needs to get it on with a different sort of rod like object...

In other words, I'm not talking about a menu of:

1. Virgin - a venti double fireball.
2. Dildo - a grande forcefield.
3. Buggering a Virgin - shot of express scrying

Nor am I thinking:

3x^4/y seconds of charge, where x = number of guys done in the last y minutes.

Just that the theme for magic is sex magic. And the more outlandish the sex, the more public, the more magic the mage seems able to command, not in specifics, but in vaguer terms. Where before one thing might have been a theme for magic and magical cults, such as dark packs with demons, stir fried pixies, mountain meditations, vows of silence, or whatever, the general notion here is variations on tantric magic.


Den... I suggest googling 'Richard Corben'. Den was a late 70s comic strip in Heavy Metal magazine (or was it early 80s?) where a young man finds himself in an alternate world inhabbiting the body of a muscle bound naked super well endowed Conan knock-off. He wanders around a world full of busty naked women, serpent men, dark cults, cannibals, magic, and a whole lot of sex.

You can also search out 'Joan Carter of Mars' - an erotica piece where a brainy researcher finds herself ported to living martian landscape full of naked people who are all very keen on bedding her. All but the first 3 chapters were pulled off the net in the late 90s, and those first three seem to only appear now in the 'Naked Blades' archive - which, despite its name, has no naked fiction other than Joan...

(Joan getting pulled is one reason why I want this shared thing to start with a premise of 'no pulling your stories to later sell them.')


Drama potential: Basically the same as in any other Conan the barbarian to Lord of the Rings fiction... Take the fantasy genre, remove the clothes, and add erotica...


Warriors and everyone else also nude: Yes, running around naked changes the dynamic. But it worked for the greeks, even in war. I've got a thing on why the world went nude, and the eventual rebuilding of civilization afterwards... Obviously in a naked world people adopt different ways of doing things than in a clothed one.

One premise I've assumed for the story in my 'inwork' folder is that of a warrior caste that has more a gymnast's body build in the women - tight muscles and small breasts. If it gets out of pending, you'lll see that sort of build described on my Ebony character in my latest piece of fiction.

 

[tenyari]

Here was my idea for why everyone in a fairly advanced world might be nude. It's still a bit corny and needing refinement:

Many thousands of years ago there were far more magically advanced civilizations across the world of Eros. From north to south, through the cold polar regions and into the central tropics, civilization held fast in a golden age lasting over 10 thousand years.

But mortal man grew arrogant with its ahievments and sought to challenge the one thing left unconquered - the last of the primordial creatures that stirred in the soup of creation to give birth to the world. A creature mortals had worshipped for ages as their god of sex and roguish cunning. It was to them, Pan, Aphrodyte, and Coyote combined in one.

Mankind won. But at a heavy cost. With its dying breath in the frozen north the creature played a cruel twist on its mortal descandants. It laid a curse upon the mortals stripping them of their protective clothing and most of the magics that would keep them warm. In their haste to find a solution before the cold set in to kill them, the mages of the northern and southerns continents twisted the curse further, spread it through time unending, and upon all sentient life on the world of eros.

Their magics warmed thw world - making what we would think to be the temperate zones tropical, and only the far north and south frozen, but the middle, where the tropics should lie, burning hot - cutting the world in two for all but magical travelers. Anyone caught in a region not suitable to life in the nude simply died from exposure. Most of humanity was lost in a few short and brutal days.

History makes no record of these events. In the aftermath of the curse, advanced civilization ceased to be. A few wizened scholars have pieced together that the world was once very different than it is now, but the reasons, and the knowledge that something akin to clothing once existed, remain lost.

For the first few thousand years all sentients had to live in complete nudity - not a strip of covering. Even extended tool use was unbearable. Going against the curse would cause a person to break out in a boiling rash, and in time, bring about death. In time the curse relaxed allowing for the wearing of belts, harnasses, backpacks, and the like, and for normal use of tools. In some places an open cloak can be worn without trouble, but a simply journey across a river or over a mountain or to another island and the cloak might bring about a rash.

Throughout the world of Eros the curse has made it unberable for the breasts, sex organs, or rump, to be covered. In most regions the body as a whole must be mostly uncovered. In a few places a cloak can be worn if not closed in front, and in a few other places full nudity is needed. This has been stable for at least as long as any recorded history knows.

Silly as it may sound, this idea was inspired by an old made for TV 'Get Smart!' movie...

 

[tenyari]

[deleted - moved to authors forum by me]

 

[emap]

Don't be ashamed, we have some of them D&D books here somewhere, not to mention the Star Wars game books. Actually kinda exciting, I heard there will be an online option in the new version of D&D.

Ten I'm sorry I gotta disagree, most of the greek warriors wore armor, just the runners went nude, all they did was run about in the back to relay orders from the general, also not all of them were nude. The vikings had a nude warrior, the beserker, they didn't start that way, they tended to make a show of getting angry tearing their clothes off foaming at the mouth then attacking, most of those did not live very long.

Most of the nude competitions were wrestling, greco roman, just have to assume there was sex involved simply by the way it worked.

Warriors nude just doesn't really work, unless your talking about warriors who are very ceremonial in combat, think dueling in France during the rennassaince period, they carried rapiers. Most duels were first blood, rare for there to be a death.

Your reason for nude, actually it's not bad, though a reason for the attack on the god would be good. Also, take out the lessening of the curse over time part, doesn't really make sense. Curses are generally thought of as having a time limit or permanent, they don't lessen unless it seerves a purpose to the story, as in if you want them to wear clothes later it lessens, otherwise you want to not have that part, say instead the most anyone can wear is a belt for tools or weapons, a backpack perhaps.

 

[tenyari]

Well I guess then I just have to repeat what I said earlier:

If nudity is not your thing for erotica, this idea probably isn't for you.

I'm looking at this from the erotica POV first. As if I were sitting in the middle of a staff meeting in a Porn studio and they came in said "We've got all these props left over from the guys who shot that Conan flick at this stage last week, and we've got the place until 5pm, what're we gonna film today?"

"How about Naked Boobarellia does Cum-man the Barbarian?"

Ok, it's a film, let's roll it people.


It is utterly pointless debating about it in history, as this is a fantasy idea, but...

While the Greeks may or may not have been nude, it has and still is existant in other parts of the world. Portions of Africa, Oceania, and Amazonia still have nude societies. Go back far enough and all the world was nude, and this was after tool usage. And people still killed each other, sadly enough.

Still, this is a fantasy idea, in a world full of dragons, faeries, and fireballs, showing a little too much skin is a the least of the realism issues.

 

[atlusreign]

Reading.

 

[atlusreign]

It is utterly pointless debating about it in history, as this is a fantasy idea, but...

While the Greeks may or may not have been nude, it has and still is existant in other parts of the world. Portions of Africa, Oceania, and Amazonia still have nude societies. Go back far enough and all the world was nude, and this was after tool usage. And people still killed each other, sadly enough.

Still, this is a fantasy idea, in a world full of dragons, faeries, and fireballs, showing a little too much skin is a the least of the realism issues.

No matter how fantastic the setting there must always be a logical order by which the world operates.

 

[tenyari]

If you don't care for a nude genre... you're really in the wrong thread...

Not that I am trying to be dismissive. Just, that is the primary genre here that I'm looking to work with, naked fantasy.

The rest is secondary. I made the silly analogy to a porn studio for a reason - in the stereotype of porn the plot and premise is just there to get the actors from one sex scene to the next. I'm not going far that kind of low bar... but its the nudity that is the theme - the 'erotic hook' - and the fantasy genre the stage on which to put that theme.

 

[emap]

I like being nude, especially when there is a hunky guy atop me.

Anyway sorry I was thinking realistic, if your just after a nice porn movie type story I think I can help with that. I was planning on doing close to that anyway.

So far I have a cube type thing, think big cube with tentacles, that likes to have sex with people. Course there is a reason for that, it's acidic and feeds on people it captures, the sex has a purpose, draws them inside.

I also have a flying head with tentacles. I can't think of a reason for the thing at the moment but well gangbang with just the one head, I'll figure out the rest of it later.

 

[Monazwx]

Not that I am trying to be dismissive. Just, that is the primary genre here that I'm looking to work with, naked fantasy. The rest is secondary.... but its the nudity that is the theme - the 'erotic hook' - and the fantasy genre the stage on which to put that theme.

Ok, that's fine, but I'm still wondering about where this is going? Where's the conflict?

 

[Monazwx]

Thought I'd bump this, seeing that the 'Nude Day' Contest is approaching.