London Bridge.... another incident....

[warrior queen]

More violence, death.
There must be a way to stop this kind of attack. Surely there are smart people talking to other smart people about ways to stop this?

Thank fuck I live in a part of the world that nobody wants and nobody gives a shit about.

Condolences to London.
Again

 

[butters]

when security is so beefed up on prime targets such as airports/major buildings etc..., soft targets will always be the option. how to prevent this kind of attack? who knows? when the IRA were active in London and across the UK for about a decade, they erected obstructions in london city centre to prevent vehicles entering some streets and had armed officers highly visible in the protected areas... think it was called the ring of steel. i don't see that as a viable response to the bridge attacks - the multitude of bridges crossing the thames are essential to move vehicles and people through the city each and every day. london handled the iRA, being bombed the shit out of well before then, and will continue to handle these sporadic attacks.

so glad none of my family were anywhere near the situations that have unfolded lately, though, and my deepest condolences to the families and friends of those involved as casualties.

 

[Ms_Ann]

Time to re-arm the general population.

 

[OldJourno]

Just part of the way of life in London, according to the mayor.

 

[OldJourno]

Wait! It's only a "potential act of terror."

 

[warrior queen]

Unfortunately, the news services are dramatising their coverage to the n'th degree..... interviews with people who were 'nearby' but didn't actually see anything, speculation about everything, guesses as to the number of victims...
It's actually quite disgusting to watch/listen to. So much so, I have had to turn it all off.

 

[perturbed]

More violence, death.
There must be a way to stop this kind of attack. Surely there are smart people talking to other smart people about ways to stop this?

Thank fuck I live in a part of the world that nobody wants and nobody gives a shit about.

Condolences to London.
Again

this is a PATHETIC comment and title

its NOT violence

its not an incident

ITS ISLAMIC TERRORISM

the only way to stp it, is to KILL ALL MUSLIMS

there is no other solution

 

[hashtag34]

They mentioned at one point that there are 3.000 suspects with potential links to ISIS, but that they lacked sufficient personel to monitor them adequately.

Perhaps if they stopped the Russia boogeyman nonsense, and deployed those troops at home instead,

 

[Ms_Ann]

They mentioned at one point that there are 3.000 suspects that they would have liked to monitor, but that they lacked sufficient personel.

Perhaps if they stopped the Russia boogeyman nonsense, and deployed those troops at home instead,

What's the population of Britain?

 

[warrior queen]

this is a PATHETIC comment and title

its NOT violence

its not an incident

ITS ISLAMIC TERRORISM

the only way to stp it, is to KILL ALL MUSLIMS

there is no other solution

At the time I wrote it, this had not yet been declared a terrorist incident.

 

[perturbed]

when security is so beefed up on prime targets such as airports/major buildings etc..., soft targets will always be the option. how to prevent this kind of attack? who knows? when the IRA were active in London and across the UK for about a decade, they erected obstructions in london city centre to prevent vehicles entering some streets and had armed officers highly visible in the protected areas... think it was called the ring of steel. i don't see that as a viable response to the bridge attacks - the multitude of bridges crossing the thames are essential to move vehicles and people through the city each and every day. london handled the iRA, being bombed the shit out of well before then, and will continue to handle these sporadic attacks.

so glad none of my family were anywhere near the situations that have unfolded lately, though, and my deepest condolences to the families and friends of those involved as casualties.

pathetic PIG is as dangerous as ISIS if not worse

 

[hashtag34]

What's the population of Britain?

What are you referring to?
Poor recruiting?

 

[perturbed]

At the time I wrote it, this had not yet been declared a terrorist incident.

yes....BUT

one has to be BRAIN dead NOT TO KNOW WHAT IT WAS

 

[warrior queen]

yes....BUT

one has to be BRAIN dead NOT TO KNOW WHAT IT WAS

No.
One has to be patient and wait for the facts.

 

[perturbed]

No.
One has to be patient and wait for the facts.

YOU ARE THE PROBLEM

 

[Conager]

No one deserves to lose loved ones to senseless violence.

 

[perturbed]

No one deserves to lose loved ones to senseless violence.

its NOT senseless

 

[Conager]

its NOT senseless

All unjustified violence is senseless.

If the news did not cover this with anything more than a dry, clinical announcement of what happened, it would not have the effect they seek.

No one should ever know the names or see the faces of those that commit these sort of things.

 

[adrina]

the only way to stp it, is to KILL ALL MUSLIMS

there is no other solution

Yeah. That's a good plan all right.

 

[Liar]

They mentioned at one point that there are 3.000 suspects with potential links to ISIS, but that they lacked sufficient personel to monitor them adequately.

Perhaps if they stopped the Russia boogeyman nonsense, and deployed those troops at home instead,

1. The UK has troops fighting Russia?
2. Why would troops be useful for monitoring terrorist suspects?

 

[hashtag34]

1. The UK has troops fighting Russia?
2. Why would troops be useful for monitoring terrorist suspects?

What I had in mind was:

When one invests so much in NATO or things abroad while they lack resources to deal adequately with internal threats towards their own citizens ( via MI5 but also Police and the army), ethical questions re Resource Allocation arise:
which trumps which?


"MI5 stretched in bid to track 1,500 suspects
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1532091/MI5-stretched-in-bid-to-track-1500-suspects.html
Soldiers deployed on streets in race to foil second terror attack after threat level raised to 'critical'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...eases-uk-terrorist-alert-critical-manchester/


Nevertheless, thank you for treating me like an idiot.

 

[Debbie]

They want to instill fear.

All I can think is how can anyone kill children (yes of course I also mean killing any innocent human being to spread their fucked up message. But particularly the children) and feel nothing and carry on killing.

I don't want the terrorists to win.

I express my horror and sorrow.

 

[hashtag34]

Around 23,000 jihadist extremists currently living in the UK have been identified by intelligence services as potential terrorists, the Times reports, citing government officials. About 3,000 of those are under investigation as possible threats.

The MI5 can only investigate about 3,000 individuals at one time, the newspaper said, explaining that the list of “live” suspects is constantly updated.

The magnitude of the threat requires investment “in intelligence-led policing.”, [said] UK Security Minister Ben Wallace.

“To have 23,000 potential killers in our midst is horrifying. We should double the size of MI5, as we did in World War Two, and expand the number of intelligence-led police by thousands,” the head of security and intelligence studies at the University of Buckingham, Anthony Glees, told the newspaper.


https://www.rt.com/uk/389945-thousands-potential-terrorists-britain/

 

[Hard_Rom]

In October of 1970 Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau (Justin's dad) enacted the War Measures Act to suspend habeas corpus and call out the army to support the police in stooping the terrorist attacks of the FLQ. Perhaps it is time to enact the British equivalent for long enough to get the extra manpower needed to do a good round up. Get ahead on checking out the couple of thousand suspected radicals.

Make your apologies after to those rounded up but not charged. Trudeau enacting the War Measures Act met with like 85%+ popularity.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Crisis
The October Crisis (French: La crise d'Octobre) occurred in October 1970 in the province of Quebec in Canada, mainly in the Montreal metropolitan area. Members of the Front de libération du Québec (FLQ) kidnapped the provincial cabinet minister Pierre Laporte and the British diplomat James Cross. In response, Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau invoked the only peacetime use of the War Measures Act. The kidnappers murdered Laporte, and negotiations led to Cross's release and the kidnappers' exile to Cuba.

The Premier of Quebec, Robert Bourassa, and the Mayor of Montreal, Jean Drapeau, supported Trudeau's invocation of the War Measures Act, which limited civil liberties. The police were enabled with far-reaching powers, and they arrested and detained, without bail, 497 individuals, all but 62 of whom were later released without charges. The Quebec government also requested military aid to the civil power, and Canadian Forces deployed throughout Quebec; they acted in a support role to the civil authorities of Quebec.

At the time, opinion polls throughout Canada, including in Quebec, showed widespread support for the use of the War Measures Act.

The response by the federal and provincial governments to the incident still sparks controversy. This is the only time that the War Measures Act had been put in place during peacetime in Canada. A few critics (most notably Tommy Douglas and some members of the New Democratic Party) believed that Trudeau was being excessive in advising the use of the War Measures Act to suspend civil liberties and that the precedent set by this incident was dangerous. Federal Progressive Conservative leader Robert Stanfield initially supported Trudeau's actions, but later regretted doing so. The size of the FLQ organization and the number of sympathizers in the public was not known. However, in its Manifesto, the FLQ stated: "In the coming year (Quebec Premier Robert) Bourassa will have to face reality; 100,000 revolutionary workers, armed and organized." Given that declaration, along with seven years of bombings and the wording of their communiques throughout that time that strove to present an image of a powerful organization spread secretly throughout all sectors of society, the authorities took significant action.

 

[hashtag34]

I just read that the terrorists were shot within 8 minutes of the first call.
Kudos to the London Metropolitan Police for acting so bravely and efficiently.