Loaded Guns In The Home !!

[DG Hear]

Another debate (I just received this one)

LOADED GUNS IN THE HOME !!

The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in
defense.

The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more
important than either.

The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental.

As John Steinbeck once said:

1. Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight,
HE'LL JUST KILL YOU!

2. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics are
questionable.

3. I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.

4. When seconds count, the cops are just minutes away.

5. A reporter did a human-interest piece on the Texas Rangers. The
reporter recognized the Colt Model 1911 the Ranger was carrying
and asked him, "Why do you carry a 45 ?" The Ranger responded,
"Because they don't make a 46."

6. Armed men will kill an unarmed men with monotonous regularity.

7. The old sheriff was attending an awards dinner when a lady
commented on his wearing his sidearm. "Sheriff, I see you have
your pistol. Are you expecting trouble?" "No Ma'am, If I were
expecting trouble, I would have brought my rifle."

8. Beware the man who only has one gun. HE PROBABLY KNOWS HOW
TO USE IT!!!


But wait, there's more!

I was once asked by a lady visiting if I had a gun in the house. I
said,I did. She said, "Well I certainly hope it isn't loaded!" To
which I said,

"Of course it is loaded, can't work without bullets!" She then
asked, "Are you that afraid of someone evil coming into your
house?"

My reply was, "Not at all. I am not afraid of the house catching
fire either, but I have fire extinguishers, they are all loaded
too."

To which I'll add, having a gun in the house that isn't loaded is
like having a car in the garage without gas in the tank.

 

[Roxanne Appleby]

.40 Glock under the bed, magazine loaded with silvertip hollowpoints but chamber empty, right next to it is one of those giant rechargeable flashlights.

The second-from-last thing in the world I want is to ever shoot someone. The last thing is someone doing something to me for which they should be shot.

I used to keep a pump shotgun under the bet with a pepper-spray round in the chamber and No. 4 buckshot in the magazine cylinder - that was a good idea, I'm not sure why I don't anymore.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Have one, know how to use it, know when to use it, hope I never do.

And may god have mercy on their souls.

 

[SeaCat]

LOLOLOL

How do I react to this?

It was obviously written by someone with too much time on their hands, very little knowledge and an agenda.

I have had a concealed carry permit for longer than I didn't have one.

I have several firearms.

I have used said firearms on several occasions and regret/pay for each one.

I have training/skills in several other weapons. I have used these as well.

My favorite weapon for home defense is a phone. After that it is a baton.

All of the violence I have been involved in has been work related. Thankfully I am out of that line of work.

Anyone who claims thay have taken anothers life or seriously injured another without remorse is either a liar or a Sociopath. (And yes that includes Combat Vets.)

That being said there are occasions I can see myself injuring or killing another in the future. I will of course pay the piper for this.

Cat

 

[cloudy]

.22 pistol loaded in the nightstand

12 gauge double barrel loaded on the top shelf in the closet

.410 shotgun (that's my snakecharmer ) loaded on the shelf in the closet

30-.30 unloaded in the garage.

Smith & Wesson 9 mm chrome semi-auto loaded in my nightstand (my father gave that one to me as a graduation present).

I was raised around guns, most of them loaded, since we kept a pistol loaded in every room of the house, sometimes more than one. My father had polio when he was a child, and while he was a behemoth through the shoulders and chest (he stood 6' 5" barefooted), he didn't move as quick as some, and he had a horror of being caught unawares, and unable to defend his family.

I started shooting an M-16 when I was seven years old. I killed my first deer when I was thirteen. I can take a pistol apart, clean it, and put it back together, and I'm pretty deadly on a combat course. I also competed on my university's rifle team one year, but just couldn't get into it.

I think that if you teach your kids about them where they don't see them as some "forbidden" object, and they know exactly how to use them and how they work, you ameliorate any risks.

Worked for all five of us kids, and all three of mine.

 

[Just-Legal]

Anyone robbing my house will eventually come across the unstrung bow and stainless steel capped arrows.

Hopefully by then they have an idea this ISN'T the house to rob. If not, my partner has two walking sticks by his bed that can be pretty lethal if weilded by a kendo trained person such as I...

 

[JagFarlane]

Anyone robbing my house will eventually come across the unstrung bow and stainless steel capped arrows.

Hopefully by then they have an idea this ISN'T the house to rob. If not, my partner has two walking sticks by his bed that can be pretty lethal if weilded by a kendo trained person such as I...

-nods- Thats why the landlord and I keep up two targets, one a silhouette with the center blown out by 9mm, the other a regulation handgun target with the bullseye missing courtesy of a .45. Turns out, it seems to work. When the neighbors garage was robbed, the cops came to ask us why ours, which is more hidden, wasn't hit. The moment his eyes laid upon the target in the window, he just smiled and shook his head muttering "Yea, I wouldn't wanna fuck with you guys either"

btw, my pistol is locked up in a steel cabinet, chamber empty. Course, 3 rather very sharp knives are close by, as is the cell phone.

 

[Liar]

My reply was, "Not at all. I am not afraid of the house catching
fire either, but I have fire extinguishers, they are all loaded
too."

I'd have an easier time fighting off a home invader with a fire extinguisher than with a gun.

 

[TE999]

Cloud Warrior, you rawk!

I have my grandpa's J.C. Higgin's .22 bolt action, single shot rifle for varmit plinking and a Beretta 85 Cheetah I bought from my BIL for protection.

Forewarned is forearmed.

 

[JagFarlane]

I'd have an easier time fighting off a home invader with a fire extinguisher than with a gun.

Actually, if its a CO2 bottle, it would be mildly effective in bursts, as the surprise of the rather cold rush in the eyes would temporarily blind them [long enough to KO them with a good swing of the bottle]

 

[Liar]

Actually, if its a CO2 bottle, it would be mildly effective in bursts, as the surprise of the rather cold rush in the eyes would temporarily blind them [long enough to KO them with a good swing of the bottle]

I have fought off an insane 150 pound mastiff with one of those thingys that shoots foam. For what it's worth.

 

[Edward Teach]

Two days ago a man called and threatened one of the women I work with. Said he was coming to the office.

She called the police. Three cops came. They said a magistrate would refuse to issue a warrant because the threat wasn't specific enough.

Sargeant asked if we had a gun. I told him that I did.

Sargeant said to lock the doors and only let in people we knew. Said to call them back if the guy showed up. Said to not take the threat lightly and to shoot him if he broke in.

He didn't show up and I'm thankful.

 

[DesertPirate]

357 revolver loaded on a shelf in the closet.
12GA semi auto and a box of shells next to it.


20+ years ago a friend had a class three Federal Firearms Licence and had a briefcase with a Mac 10 full auto in the trunk at all times

 

[TheeGoatPig]

I don't own a firearm at the moment (I live with my parrents, and my father owns plenty). But if I did I am pretty sure I would keep at oleast one of them loaded at all times.

I do have a pretty dull machete right next to my bed thoguh.

and plenty of knives throughout the house.

And a few other blunt objects that could each be a pretty deadly weapon in their own right if slung around properly.

 

[cloudy]

357 revolver loaded on a shelf in the closet.
12GA semi auto and a box of shells next to it.


20+ years ago a friend had a class three Federal Firearms Licence and had a briefcase with a Mac 10 full auto in the trunk at all times

I have a concealed carry permit. They're easy as hell to get here: ten bucks at the sheriff's office once a year.

 

[DesertPirate]

I have a concealed carry permit. They're easy as hell to get here: ten bucks at the sheriff's office once a year.

I need to get one
Not that easy here but the sheriff is a good guy

 

[TheeGoatPig]

I don't know if it has gotten better or not, but New Jersey used to turn down all concealed carry permits, even to (only example I can remember right now) doctors that worked in ganglands and were under threat of being mugged on a daily basis.

Then again, we also elected a man into office that taxed food, drink, and toilet paper...

 

[DesertPirate]

See post #18 on DG's humor thread

 

[rydia57]

All these guns that kids have found and blown their heads off, none of them had locks on them, or had to be loaded .... hmmm. wow You know a rubber band can hurt if you use it just right...

 

[TE999]

All these guns that kids have found and blown their heads off, none of them had locks on them, or had to be loaded .... hmmm. wow You know a rubber band can hurt if you use it just right...

I think rubber band guns have been outlawed.

 

[JagFarlane]

All these guns that kids have found and blown their heads off, none of them had locks on them, or had to be loaded .... hmmm. wow You know a rubber band can hurt if you use it just right...

Mmmm, not always true. Now, personally, what I think is cool, is a new gun cabinet locking system I saw. They took the thumbprint readers that some computers are using these days, and applied them to the locking mechanism. Then again, I just don't see the need to keep a loaded weapon in the house.

 

[snap1415]

The last time I moved, I had to make two trips with a hand truck to shift all my ammo.

 

[neonlyte]

I've six loaded eggs in the fridge

 

[ozymandiask]

LOLOLOL

Anyone who claims thay have taken anothers life or seriously injured another without remorse is either a liar or a Sociopath. (And yes that includes Combat Vets.)

Cat

This is the only thing resembling common sense on this thread.

I am a 78 year old man and despite my arthritis am pretty sure that at close range armed with a 6 inch kitchen knife and most of you armed with what the hell you like, you would die, I would kill you. Why?

Its easy to shoot a gun , to take it to bits, know it inside out to hit targets, to talk tough but when you have to kill at close range for the first time it ain't the same. You will shake with fear, the piss and shit will run down your legs, you will cry like babies. You will find out that human beings are built not to take life. Most of you with a gun in your hand will be unable to squeese the trigger let alone shoot straight.You are a danger to yourselves.

I was never much of a shot but you don't have to be if you are killing people within spitting distance. I served in Korea then later in a very dirty conflict in Malaya before being attached to Australian troops in Vietnam. As Seacat said noone who has killed will ever be able to put the experience behind them. It marks you for life. Because of that I recommend that if you find yourself in a position where you are threatened, back away and run like hell as soon as you can -- unless you have been specifically trained to kill rather than merely to shoot.

If you must be armed use a shotgun the spread compensates for the shit n' shakes.

I apologise if anyone finds this offensive but when I wake up from a bad dream at 3 oclock in the morning remembering 50 years ago and more I can tell you i know what I'm talking about.

Look after youselves.

 

[cloudy]

Its easy to shoot a gun , to take it to bits, know it inside out to hit targets, to talk tough but when you have to kill at close range for the first time it ain't the same. You will shake with fear, the piss and shit will run down your legs, you will cry like babies. You will find out that human beings are built not to take life. Most of you with a gun in your hand will be unable to squeese the trigger let alone shoot straight.You are a danger to yourselves.

You're right, but you know what? If it's in defense of my family, or of my life? I'll shoot without a qualm, and most likely I'll kill, simply because of the way I've trained my reflexes. And if you're defending those things, most likely it's because the guy (or whoever) is close enough to be able to hit him without thinking about it - at least for me.

I'll deal with the psychological issues later. I know they'll be there. I know it'll be hell to go through, but at least I'll be alive to go through it.