Literotica Flagrantly Violates Author's Copyright

[Cybele_mj]

"Priestess of Cybele" has been published by Literotica in direct violation of author's explicit submission request. It is therefore in violation of copyright. News of illegal activities such as this will be publicly promulgated on other Internet sites. As the author of this piece, I demand that it be taken down at once!

 

[sr71plt]

Lit. has no way of knowing stories have been stolen before they post them--and trust you have some proof it's yours that you can establish with Lit. when/if you report the issue properly (which isn't here). A direct PM to laurel is the way to go, giving evidence that it's yours.

 

[michchick98]

"Priestess of Cybele" has been published by Literotica in direct violation of author's explicit submission request. It is therefore in violation of copyright. News of illegal activities such as this will be publicly promulgated on other Internet sites. As the author of this piece, I demand that it be taken down at once!

You still own the copyrights to any story you submit to Literotica, but by submitting your work, you're giving permission to Literotica to publish it.

Doing a search shows that the story you mentioned was posted on August 23, 2009 under the user name Cybele_mj. If you want it removed, simply go back to the page where you originally submitted the work and include - DELETE after the title (Priestess of Cybelle - DELETE) and include in the Story Field and Notes field that you'd like the story deleted.

If the person is an imposter of you and it's not actually you who posted the story, send a PM to Laurel:

http://forum.literotica.com/private.php?do=newpm&u=7

Beyond that, I don't know what your gripe is and why you felt it necessary to cross post this message in another forum.

 

[sr71plt]

Gee, if the story is correctly attributed, it just needs to be deleted. It doesn't need all this fanfare.

 

[pointless]

wow, this thread makes no fucking sense. that is awesome. what did you think would happen when you submitted the story for publication? that it wouldn't be?

or are you trying to claim that this: Cybele_mj isn't you?

 

[Cybele_mj]

Clarification on copyright violation

Clarification:

I myself wrote the story and submitted it to Literotica with some very explicit caveats. For example, I asked it not to alter the story in any way, but to check in with me first if that was on the radar screen, etc. I asked it to do that a message attached to the submission itself and yet on another occasion.

Literotica cavalierly ignored my requests, publishing the story in a significantly altered form without giving me the courtesy of an email or heads-up. The story is ostensibly mine but what has been published is not my story due to what I would characterize as very serious negligence and "exhuberance" on the part of Literotica's editor.

I have subsequently asked Literotica to remove the story, and it has not yet done that, deepening my concerns about copyright infringement. Obviously, due the the subject matter and because I really do wish to be measured in any response, while protecting my own interests, I am not about to threaten legal recourse. On the other hand, I am increasingly seeing Literotica as a very dangerous diversion for any serious author.

Anyone wishing to ensure that what is published looks even remotely like what has been submitted is advised to avoid this literary venue. Anyone wishing to ensure that the publisher respects the author's requests is advised to avoid this venue. ANyone who cares a hoot about copyright infringement is advised to stay away.

Caveat emptor applies.

 

[Miss_Misaki]

That's really strange. I always check my stories after they've passed judgment, just because I'm vain and I like to read it as it's posted online, rather than from my word processing software.

I've never seen gross edits of my work in any form or fashion. Just what kinds of changes did they make? Is it possible that some of your formatting, or maybe some non-standard characters got replaced when it was converted to HTML format? These things happen, naturally. That's one reason why they have such a rigorous judgment system here, albeit not the most important one, I'd wager.

 

[sr71plt]

I responded to this on the other thread started on this. This isn't Random House; you expect too much. Just delete the story yourself if you no longer want it here. You should have done the work to find out there's a FAQ link on your submissions page that tells you how to do that.

Regardless, this is your problem that you haven't properly directed to the site administrators.

 

[Guest]

Cy - is this your first story to post here?

You are basing all of your criticism upon this one situation?

Lit has never altered any of my stories. With as many stories as they sift through on this free site, they are not going to take the time to edit individual works. Perhaps the fault is yours, for incorrect formatting, as MM suggested.

You can always resubmit an edited version and they'll fix the issue, whether or not the problem was theirs or yours.

 

[Cybele_mj]

Format Question

Yours is a reasonable question. I will answer by stating again what the work itself was very, very structured. This work, while long, is very minimalistically executed, even to the point of its initially being presented as a poem or proem.

Before hitting the "submit" button, I told Literotica to contact me if it seemed to be necessary to change the structure due to reformatting, fonts, etc. I asked it not to publish the work if it had to do that. It ignored my requests and it published it anyway. The line structure was changed, of course, and the structure fell apart.

That's not just a matter of literary vanity, though there's nothing wrong with that. The issue has to do with a wanton disregard that Literotica showed for not just one very insistent request not to do that without first advising me, but after two.

I am not suggesting that anything untoward was done intentionally. On the other hand, the editor was insensitive, disrespectful and impetuous, totally disregarding very explicit directives from me in the process. S/he didn't act from malice. Stupidity seems to have been the M.O. here.

Am I angry? Seething, rather. I asked Laurel awhile ago to remove the piece and get an acknowledgment to me. Thus far, that still hasn't happened.

So at this point, yes, I am warning people. Moreover, these warnings will appear elsewhere on the Internet, in appropriate forums of course, until "Cybele" is deleted.

 

[sr71plt]

You sound just stubborn. What part of you can delete/could have deleted it yourself don't you understand?

It's too bad that it had fancy formatting that this Web site programming probably isn't sophisticated enough to handle. Try the New Yorker.

 

[Guest]

Yours is a reasonable question. I will answer by stating again what the work itself was very, very structured. This work, while long, is very minimalistically executed, even to the point of its initially being presented as a poem or proem.

Before hitting the "submit" button, I told Literotica to contact me if it seemed to be necessary to change the structure due to reformatting, fonts, etc. I asked it not to publish the work if it had to do that. It ignored my requests and it published it anyway. The line structure was changed, of course, and the structure fell apart.

That's not just a matter of literary vanity, though there's nothing wrong with that. The issue has to do with a wanton disregard that Literotica showed for not just one very insistent request not to do that without first advising me, but after two.

I am not suggesting that anything untoward was done intentionally. On the other hand, the editor was insensitive, disrespectful and impetuous, totally disregarding very explicit directives from me in the process. S/he didn't act from malice. Stupidity seems to have been the M.O. here.

Am I angry? Seething, rather. I asked Laurel awhile ago to remove the piece and get an acknowledgment to me. Thus far, that still hasn't happened.

So at this point, yes, I am warning people. Moreover, these warnings will appear elsewhere on the Internet, in appropriate forums of course, until "Cybele" is deleted.

This is a free site. Quite frankly, they don't owe you a damned thing.

There are no "editors" checking out every submitted story. It's mostly done by computers.

If you wish to speak with Laurel, send her a PM. She receives far too many emails for her to properly respond in that manner.

Your outraged posts make you sound silly. And quite full of yourself.

No one is taking you seriously.

 

[DeeZire]

If you copy and paste the text into the "submission" box, and then hit "preview" you can view your story as it will appear when it's posted. If you don't do that, you're at the mercy of whatever the HTML code will do to your story.

There is also the issue of buggy WP software. Several times I got an edit back from someone else, checked it over, pasted it into the "submissions" box, hit "preview" and then had to go back and hit "return" at the end of every single section of dialogue, since there was no longer a double space separating the dialogue sections. This wasn't LIT's fault, it was the fault of the editor's buggy software that screwed up the formatting of my story.

The solution to your dilemma is to do as others have suggested - go to your submissions page and resubmit your story with the request that it be deleted. Then don't click on the story again and just wait. It could take 7 days or more, but if go to your submissions page and click on the story again, it will get kicked to the back of the line. Do that every couple of days and your story will never, ever get deleted.

 

[michchick98]

I am not suggesting that anything untoward was done intentionally.

Oh really? So you didn't post this:

Anyone wishing to ensure that what is published looks even remotely like what has been submitted is advised to avoid this literary venue. Anyone wishing to ensure that the publisher respects the author's requests is advised to avoid this venue. Anyone who cares a hoot about copyright infringement is advised to stay away.

Yep, looks like you posted that in TWO forums!

On the other hand, the editor was insensitive, disrespectful and impetuous, totally disregarding very explicit directives from me in the process. S/he didn't act from malice. Stupidity seems to have been the M.O. here.

So the formatting was messed up? That's what the problem is? That is NOT a copyright violation. That's simply one author not reading the FAQ before submitting. Many authors have had similar problems, but when they resubmitted the story in a different way (with the HTML formatting incorporated in the story, then copy and paste into the story field and PREVIEW before submitting) their story appeared as it should have.

But of course, you're perfect and you shouldn't have to do all that, right? Instead, you want to whine about how stupid the site administrators are. Way to win friends and influence people there, sunshine.

Am I angry? Seething, rather. I asked Laurel awhile ago to remove the piece and get an acknowledgment to me. Thus far, that still hasn't happened.

Well, aren't you just the model of patience and understanding? Look, Dumbo, if the problem is simply with the formatting, edit the friggin' story with the formatting incorporated within the story, copy the story (with the incorporated formatting), paste it into the Story Field and resubmit it with - EDIT in the title field and wait...3-5 days. It'll reappear with the proper formatting and you can get off your damned high horse about copyright violation. Although you have given me a good laugh, something I haven't had in a few weeks. Thanks.

So at this point, yes, I am warning people. Moreover, these warnings will appear elsewhere on the Internet, in appropriate forums of course, until "Cybele" is deleted.

I hardly think your "warning" will do anything but generate more entertainment for everyone, but you go ahead if it makes you feel better.

Either fix the damned formatting or pull the story off the site and be done with it, but stop spouting off about all this copyright infringement crap...I'd really hate to see sr71plt get on a tangent about it again. (no offense, Mr. Pilot, sir )

 

[_Lynn_]

"Priestess of Cybele" has been published by Literotica in direct violation of author's explicit submission request. It is therefore in violation of copyright. News of illegal activities such as this will be publicly promulgated on other Internet sites. As the author of this piece, I demand that it be taken down at once!

Makes me think of a child, stomping their foot and throwing a tantrum because they didn't get what they wanted.

 

[oggbashan]

"Priestess of Cybele" has been published by Literotica in direct violation of author's explicit submission request. It is therefore in violation of copyright. News of illegal activities such as this will be publicly promulgated on other Internet sites. As the author of this piece, I demand that it be taken down at once!

(This is a duplicate post because the original thread was started twice)

YOU have made several mistakes.

1. You didn't read the FAQs or the extensive How To advice on this site before trying to post complicated formatting.

2. You assumed that the loss of formatting was "in direct violation". It wasn't. It was a result of YOUR mistake in submitting it incorrectly and not checking with the preview function.

3. You attacked the site for YOUR mistake and compounded your error by making defamatory statements.

4. You have annoyed many people who enjoy this site. As a newbie to Literotica you should have done your homework before trying to do something complex without help. Help and advice is available.

5. YOUR mistake was correctable. It still is. Why should anyone wish to help someone who has started on Literotica by having a two-year-old's temper tantrum?

6. YOU need to apologise and edit your posts to admit YOUR error.

Og

 

[Epmd607]

This would all be interesting if the story wasn't complete rubbish.

"Priestess of Cybele" is rubby rubbish.

 

[CopyCarver]

This would all be interesting if the story wasn't complete rubbish.

"Priestess of Cybele" is rubby rubbish.

Ah, but you read it. Cynic that I am, I can't help suspecting that may have been the predicating point of the whole thread.

 

[driphoney]

Ah, but you read it. Cynic that I am, I can't help suspecting that may have been the predicating point of the whole thread.

 

[michchick98]

Ah, but you read it. Cynic that I am, I can't help suspecting that may have been the predicating point of the whole thread.

You mean both threads.

I thought of that too, but then he/she/it wouldn't have gotten their panties in a wad about copyright infringement (*snerk*) or the fact that Literotica didn't respond to his/her/its deletion requested immediately. (*snerk*)

Although, I didn't read it, I didn't figure it was really worth reading to begin with. Oh well, it's gone now so I suppose we won't be seeing any more from him/her/it.

 

[Epmd607]

Ah, but you read it. Cynic that I am, I can't help suspecting that may have been the predicating point of the whole thread.

Yeah, I was actually going to go back and give everyone some quality passages from it, but it was taken down too quick.

 

[CopyCarver]

Yeah, I was actually going to go back and give everyone some quality passages from it, but it was taken down too quick.

I didn't read the story, but it sounds like Literotica's "loss" is our gain.

 

[sr71plt]

And gives opportunity to beat a dead horse.

 

[LOAnnie2]

And gives opportunity to beat a dead horse.

Hopefully she's not a member of PETA, otherwise you just opened a whole new can of worms

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

Wheeeeeee!!!!

The bullshit and nut jobs are always hiding somewhere in Lit LMAO