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Maybe God will bless you with healthcare like the Britwits have.
Maybe God will bless you with healthcare like the Britwits have.
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That won't be god, that will be the American citizens finding a way to force the issue past the insurance companies.
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If I might be permitted to make a few comments on the story so far ?
Stafford Hospital is my local General Hospital and I have received treatment at it. If I ever find the story I wrote at the time, I'll publish it.
Jack Luis asked: "WHo in the NHS is going to swing for this outrage?"
I suspect that those directly involved will get their arses kicked mightily (the local papers are naturally wanting a public hanging in the hospital grounds for the very senior miscreants). Wait until the Review, the Inquiry and any other damned bureaucratic junk to happen, watch it vanish to London (at Election time) and then disappear.
Alex D nearly got it right. Apart from the fact that the English just "don't do that sort of thing".
JBJ said: "Were it a private hospital it would be sued out of business and its management jailed. But bureaucrats get transfers."
Yes, they sometimes do; mostly to places with less to damage; although this is changing of late [boot them out!].
Zeb got it right; "Promotions"; usually sideways where they can do no more harm.
(this is not as common as once it was).
I think Ogg got it right:-
ONE of the problems with Stafford Hospital and many NHS hospitals is excessive government interference.
The politicians have devised many performance measures that HAVE to be met or funding will be cut. Managers and staff are chasing their tails to keep the finances afloat. That takes their eyes off the real task of caring for patients.
Stafford was good at meeting the tick-box lists required but dire at patient care. Traditional nursing skills such as feeding, washing and general patient care have to be fitted around reams of paperwork. Providing and changing bedpans seems to be no one's job.
I must remind Elfin that the UK citizen has treatment, "free at the point of use".
Stafford Hospital is my local General Hospital and I have received treatment at it. If I ever find the story I wrote at the time, I'll publish it.
Jack Luis asked: "WHo in the NHS is going to swing for this outrage?"
I suspect that those directly involved will get their arses kicked mightily (the local papers are naturally wanting a public hanging in the hospital grounds for the very senior miscreants). Wait until the Review, the Inquiry and any other damned bureaucratic junk to happen, watch it vanish to London (at Election time) and then disappear.
Alex D nearly got it right. Apart from the fact that the English just "don't do that sort of thing".
JBJ said: "Were it a private hospital it would be sued out of business and its management jailed. But bureaucrats get transfers."
Yes, they sometimes do; mostly to places with less to damage; although this is changing of late [boot them out!].
Zeb got it right; "Promotions"; usually sideways where they can do no more harm.
(this is not as common as once it was).
I think Ogg got it right:-
ONE of the problems with Stafford Hospital and many NHS hospitals is excessive government interference.
The politicians have devised many performance measures that HAVE to be met or funding will be cut. Managers and staff are chasing their tails to keep the finances afloat. That takes their eyes off the real task of caring for patients.
Stafford was good at meeting the tick-box lists required but dire at patient care. Traditional nursing skills such as feeding, washing and general patient care have to be fitted around reams of paperwork. Providing and changing bedpans seems to be no one's job.
I must remind Elfin that the UK citizen has treatment, "free at the point of use".
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in addition to Handley's comments it is worth pointing out that many of the functions that were traditionally carried out by direct NHS employees in the past such as cleaning and so on are now handled by private contractors who won't answer to NHS staff.
In many ways it is the gradual privatisation of the NHS that has been responsible for a lot of problems it faces now.
In many ways it is the gradual privatisation of the NHS that has been responsible for a lot of problems it faces now.
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I remember a time when the most junior of nurses (in training) learned the most efficient methods of sweeping the ward floor.
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I'm reminded of the time I spent in a military hospital. After admission I was ordered to clean the hospital room pending an inspection by the hospital commander. So the 5-6 of us moped around with mops and dust cloths.
Bureaucrats measure ticks NOT patient welfare.
I recall inspectors making us throw away critical parts in short supply because we received the parts 6 months after we ordered them. They reasoned that if we were authorized one case of something for 12 months, we oughta have 1/2 case remaining after 6 months. So the delayed parts went into the garbage dump thus creating a new shortage.
You cant reason with bureaucrats.
I'm reminded of the time I spent in a military hospital. After admission I was ordered to clean the hospital room pending an inspection by the hospital commander. So the 5-6 of us moped around with mops and dust cloths.
Bureaucrats measure ticks NOT patient welfare.
I recall inspectors making us throw away critical parts in short supply because we received the parts 6 months after we ordered them. They reasoned that if we were authorized one case of something for 12 months, we oughta have 1/2 case remaining after 6 months. So the delayed parts went into the garbage dump thus creating a new shortage.
You cant reason with bureaucrats.
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trainee nurses don't do any of that now. at least not in our local hospital. Nurses have become so 'professionalised' (which is no bad thing really) that the kind of hands on care they used to do is now left to agency orderlies who are answerable to no one.
When my mum was last in, she had to shout to get water to wash her hands and she stopped one from using the same disinfectant wipe on her bed rail by her hands as had just been used to wipe around a bin.
She wasn't a very popular patient with those contracted in
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