Zeb_Carter
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And before you know it Obamacare will cause the same things to happen all over the country. And YES there are fucked up hospitals out there now, but just think how many there will be once the government takes over.
Handley_Page
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JBJ, you do have the ability to pick out the unusual worst, don't you ?.
geronimo_appleby
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LOL. you believe what you read in the papers?
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JAMESBJOHNSON
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I worked for state government 20 years, I've seen it all. I know how little bureaucrats care for their patients.
I recall an occasion when I was interviewing a man and he passed out. I called the nurses' station for help and got THEYRE IN A MEETING, YOU'LL HAVE TO WAIT. So then I sent someone to find me an MD. They were at the same meeting and didnt wanna be interrupted. So I called 911 for FIRE-RESCUE to come to the hospital!
People shit all over themselves! bailing out of the meeting.
I worked for state government 20 years, I've seen it all. I know how little bureaucrats care for their patients.
I recall an occasion when I was interviewing a man and he passed out. I called the nurses' station for help and got THEYRE IN A MEETING, YOU'LL HAVE TO WAIT. So then I sent someone to find me an MD. They were at the same meeting and didnt wanna be interrupted. So I called 911 for FIRE-RESCUE to come to the hospital!
People shit all over themselves! bailing out of the meeting.
Handley_Page
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Oh, I just love that one.
I have been a patient in that hospital and I came to the conclusion that the staff are saints and the administrators, politicians and hangers-on are so much fluff.
geronimo_appleby
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i once spent a night in the cells. are all police bastards?
... oh, hang on, bad example!
Dragonlipz
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That's JBJ's charm - he can pick the only wormy apple on the tree and declare the entire crop a failure.....an eternal optimist is our JBJ!!!
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This is what happens when the "Government" fails to use their oversight to "manage health care."
Where are the "Inspectors General?"
WHo in the NHS is going to swing for this outrage?
Oh right, it was just a 'snafu', they'll fix it for the photo-op, I'm sure.
Where are the "Inspectors General?"
WHo in the NHS is going to swing for this outrage?
Oh right, it was just a 'snafu', they'll fix it for the photo-op, I'm sure.
Dragonlipz
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Here now, alex_d, don't go spoiling all the good lies and propaganda with truth....it blows the trolls away when they have to confront an inconvenient truth:
Despite all the nonsense generated by the teabaggers, Dick Army, et al (the mouthpieces of the insurance lobby and billionaires); not one country that has universal health care has ever considered changing that system. Not one. Most of the countries that utilize the system are democracies and wouldn't it make sense that if the system didn't work that the people would vote for something that did?
Every troll on this board would benefit from universal health care but it might mean that they'd have to compromise their stunted world view.....Even though it's been proven that we'd all have to pay less to get better health care.....in the US, that is.....
the trolls are glad that the US is ranked 37th worldwide for health care outcomes....they're proud of it....
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JAMESBJOHNSON
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It is a wormy apple, indeed.
Were it a private hospital it would be sued out of business and its managment jailed. But bureaucrats get transfers.
Zeb_Carter
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And promotions.
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and so they should, but that is one out of thousands of hospitals that do a pretty good job of giving us brits a better mortality rate than you yanks. Yes, it's not a perfect system and mistakes get made, but then the same can be said for private medicine as well. Did one of your senior politicians end up with a body cavity full of shit thanks to a fuck up during a routine operation? I'll bet he wasn't treated on medicaid or whatever you call it there.
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JAMESBJOHNSON
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Uh, this isnt an isolated incident of not getting the laundry done, dear. Its not about getting prune juice instead of tea for breakfast. Lotsa people died.
JackLuis
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ALL of our politicians are full of Shit!
Not just the Senior ones. Americans are second to no one in this respect. Can't you see that from across the pond?
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ALL of our politicians are full of Shit!
Not just the Senior ones. Americans are second to no one in this respect. Can't you see that from across the pond?
No. Ours are similar.
Anyone who wants to be a politician should be disqualified from being one.
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Like I said, it's a scandal and heads should roll. but given the size of the organisation, the number of hospitals, employees and people it treats, it is fairly isolated and the problems were brought about because of unreal pressures, so as well as the management, people in the department of health need to be subject to inquiry.
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Next time why not volunteer to be one of the victims then reassure yourself how its an isolated incident.
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An estimated 45,000 people in the USA will die in the coming year because they have no access to healthcare. Does that qualify as "lotsa"?
Dragonlipz
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Jeez, DZ, you gotta look at the big picture:
45k out of 300m is only .15% - one and a half tenths of one percent - for those who serve the transnational interests gouging the American people in the name of health care that's like wiping your ass....
I mean, how much is a human life worth? Especially when our company can turn an obscene profit every damned day?
It is worth a:
barrel of oil?
a pair of tennis shoes?
an ipod?
a bushel of food?
a sound bite?
a fistful of dollars?
a moment of our time?
a blink of an eye?
a nod?
a wink?
a sigh?
a big bang?
a whimper?
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Everyone in America has access to healthcare so your premise is bullshit. Dial 911 and see what happens. The issue is folks with healthcare killed by the providers. You love to warble & gargle but its always the wrong tune.
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ONE of the problems with Stafford Hospital and many NHS hospitals is excessive government interference.
The politicians have devised many performance measures that HAVE to be met or funding will be cut. Managers and staff are chasing their tails to keep the finances afloat. That takes their eyes off the real task of caring for patients.
Stafford was good at meeting the tick-box lists required but dire at patient care. Traditional nursing skills such as feeding, washing and general patient care have to be fitted around reams of paperwork. Providing and changing bedpans seems to be no one's job.
The good hospitals and good managers balance government demands and patient care. The bad ones and incompetent managers keep the money coming but patients suffer. The worst ones fail at both. The best ones have active community involvement that spots failings in patient care in minutes and yell loud and long about it (or step in and do it themselves).
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The politicians have devised many performance measures that HAVE to be met or funding will be cut. Managers and staff are chasing their tails to keep the finances afloat. That takes their eyes off the real task of caring for patients.
Stafford was good at meeting the tick-box lists required but dire at patient care. Traditional nursing skills such as feeding, washing and general patient care have to be fitted around reams of paperwork. Providing and changing bedpans seems to be no one's job.
The good hospitals and good managers balance government demands and patient care. The bad ones and incompetent managers keep the money coming but patients suffer. The worst ones fail at both. The best ones have active community involvement that spots failings in patient care in minutes and yell loud and long about it (or step in and do it themselves).
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No shit, Sherlock.
Working for the government is like that; every asshat administrator tries to justify her job with irrelevant data collecting, but lets patient care slide.
My local Juvemile Welfare Board has no money to dispense services so staff spends 4 days creating reports, then spends one day presenting their reports at a mandatory staff meeting.
No shit, Sherlock.
Working for the government is like that; every asshat administrator tries to justify her job with irrelevant data collecting, but lets patient care slide.
My local Juvemile Welfare Board has no money to dispense services so staff spends 4 days creating reports, then spends one day presenting their reports at a mandatory staff meeting.
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PoppingTom
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Well, if this is true, it is the one and only reason against ObamaCare, accepted by everyone.
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