flyingtinopener
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Which do gooders in the prison service put a man with twelve life sentences against him in an open prison, and then give him day release.
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MichaelinChina
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Look at it another way. Maybe, by letting him out, the 'do gooders' are keeping the other prisoners out of harms way.
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The politicians who devised the sentencing guidelines. He had already served the minimum required time in prison, and was being prepared for life outside jail.
With a life sentence, he would be subject to recall to prison at any time if he committed another crime.
The vast majority of prisoners given day release do not abuse it. Only a very few do - but they make the headline news.
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Thinking your way it was probably the guards that were so xxxx scared of him they voted for it.
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With all due respect,I think your black and white quoting of the law is the problem, with a person of this nature it should be obvious that rehabilitation is never going to be possible, and even trying is putting the public at an unacceptable risk, therefor life MUST mean life.
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You know what the problem is. Context. I have no idea what news item you are referring to. Why not add a link so the rest of us that aren't news junkies can understand just what in the sam hill you are sputtering about?
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exactly what I was going to request.
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http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9mS...600.html/RK=0/RS=l0loPGSKu_kQG9Q.XL7RJLkNzh8-
This links to the end of the story.
The prisoner, Skull Cracker, went missing on day release after serving time for violent armed robbery and was arrested committing an armed robbery.
This links to the end of the story.
The prisoner, Skull Cracker, went missing on day release after serving time for violent armed robbery and was arrested committing an armed robbery.
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Well then, he loses his day release then. Fool that he is!
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Yea you'd have thought he'd at least wait until he got full release before doing it again.
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Mind you, some of these guys prefer being in jail than being outside. Inside Mr 'Skull Cracker' not only has 'cred' for what he did, and has done, with a name like that nobody will ever give him trouble.
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I,m afraid I feel that most of your replies show a far to soft approach to the Skullcracker,these people cannot be reformed, in the U.S. they have the "three strikes and your out" rule,some years ago a man with two prison term behind him stole an icecream of a child on the beach,strike three,your out, sentenced on conviction to life.The so called skullcracker has struck out four times over,throw the key away,the public must have the right to apply ultimate force.
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We'll he certainly wasn't very good at being missing.
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UK law sets out minimum tariffs on all sentences, unless a Judge sets a minimum term before parole can be considered, Mr Skullcracker had reached the time when he could enter a pre-release program, probably through good behavior So yes he fooled the prison authorities.
Our American friends may correct me on this, but some time ago I read that a problem arose on the three strike system when some one was facing life for a relatively minor offence.
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The problem isn't my statement but the reality of the law. Unless a judge sets a minimum term for consideration for parole, a prisoner is entitled to be considered for parole and release into the community after a set time - set by politicians in the parole legislation. He had already gone past that minimum, so he must have had a parole request turned down once.
It might have been sensible, but a man who gets the nickname "skull-cracker" for pointless violence is unlikely to be sensible.
Of course, with 14 Life sentences he will never get 'full release'. He would have been released 'on licence' and subject to recall to prison at any time.
He had gone past the minimum. Transfer to an Open Prison and Day Release was supposed to prepare him for a life back in the community because he had already served longer than his minimum tariff in prison.
It is a truism in the UK that a Life Sentence doesn't mean 'the term of your natural life'. The normal duration in prison of a Life Sentence is 14 years for someone who is of good behaviour. BUT - someone who has been sentenced to 'Life' is never wholly free. They can be recalled to prison if convicted for any subsequent offence, however minor.
In the 'Good Old Days' when a Life Sentence was substituted for execution, a Life Sentence was considered to be for the whole life, but aged and infirm, or genuinely reformed, prisoners could be released from prison on a 'Ticket of Leave' - a permission for a life prisoner to stay out of jail under certain conditions.
There is an old joke:
A teacher on his retirement day was approached by one of his former pupils of many years ago.
The pupil thanks the teacher effusively for the inspiration which has led the pupil to improve his life.
The teacher can't remember the pupil, but is appreciating the praise, until the man says:
"Without your teaching, I wouldn't have been able to get this Ticket of Leave."
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