Let's play: Stroker or Not?

[StillStunned]

Given the spate of recent discussions about interesting sex scenes, mundane scenes, strokers and related topics, let's try a new way of approaching the subject.

Some stories are obviously all about the sex. Hello, you look hot, want to get naked and rub our bits together? Just as obviously, some stories feature sex as just one of several story elements. But most stories probably fall somewhere in between.

So here's the game. Choose one of your stories that you think straddles the line between stroker and non-stroker. Provide a link, but because we shouldn't assume that everyone is going to read it, please also provide a synopsis. Explain the arguments for and against classifying it as a stroker, and where you would place it.

And please, try to be a bit more decisive than "Well actually it's a bit of both." Duh, that's the basic assumption. It's implied in "straddles the line". Just pick one.

And let's try to have a constructive discussion!

 

[StillStunned]

My story is Tammy, Jessica, Yuliya. A massage therapist finds herself facing her childhood bully as her newest client. The childhood bully who was her first kiss, but who betrayed her the following day and turned all their friends against her. Jessica (going by Yuliya) has to decide how far she'll go to take revenge on the naked Tammy.

Why it might be stroker: It's basically a sex story. Naked massage client. Taking advantage of her and seducing her to have her first lesbian sex.

Why it might not be a stroker: Jessica/Yuliya is conflicted. Much of the story takes place inside her mind. At the end of the story she's not the same person anymore, nor is Tammy.

My personal thoughts: It's a stroker. The sex is what drives the story. The internal conflict just makes it spicier.

 

[THBGato]

Okay, I'll play: I Have Touched Love.

Why it might be a stroker:

Well it's short - 3,200 words, a single Lit page. Aside from the brief coda, it all takes place in a bedroom in a boarding school over the course of about 20 minutes or so. It opens with a girl entering another girl's room, the chemistry is there straight away, flirtation, kissing and hot, sweaty first-time lesbian sex follows very quickly afterwards.


Why it might not be a stroker:

Although I think it works on its own, it's a sequel to I Have Seen Love (which has no sex in it) and the coda sets up a future for the narrator in I Have Made Love, Twenty and Forty. Thus it is part of a much, much longer narrative arc, driven by characters, spanning over a decade and over 100,000 words. And I knew that would be the case when I wrote it. It was a prequel, not a short that spawned a sequel.

My thoughts: I think if you read it on its own, it's a stroker; if you read it as part of the whole arc, it isn't

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

So here's the game. Choose one of your stories that you think straddles the line between stroker and non-stroker. Provide a link,

Ah ... well ....

 

[Statius]

. Sitting this one out. No one wants to read my 30k Miss Vickie.

 

[StillStunned]

Ah ... well ....

Very well. Choose any story, even if it's by another writer.

. Sitting this one out. No one wants to read my 30k Miss Vickie.

Hence "also provide a synopsis".

 

[Statius]

https://literotica.com/s/a-game-of-pool-2

Katy plays pool with 4 guys. Shenanigans follow. No character development, no tension. Pure fun group sex.

A stroker.

 

[PennyThompson]

Accessibility Compliance
A first-person narrator accidentally becomes voyeur to a sexting conversation and explicit pictures sent between two strangers. They get so turned on that they need to sneak away to the office bathroom to get some relief, but complications arise!

It might be a stroker because it's fairly short (5k words), it kind of starts in media res, it plays with some semi-taboo topics, and it ends in a pair of messy orgasms...

It might NOT be a stroker because it doesn't actually involve any penetrative sex, and in fact doesn't even involve any characters physically touching at all. Also the central conceit of the story involves looking at HTML code

My thoughts: I think it's not a stroker, my intention when writing it was to fulfill an intellectual writing challenge, and as it developed it also became strangely, awkwardly romantic. But... It's also an attempt at writing something dirty and naughty, and the MC is a bit of a horny creep in their own weird way

 

[iwatchus]

My personal thoughts: It's a stroker. The sex is what drives the story. The internal conflict just makes it spicier.

I don't think it's a stroker. I think the inner dialogue between Jessica an Yuliya drove the story. It was a better story with the sex, but it would have been a good story if the massage stopped where Tammy expected it to. You could not say the same thing with the story if there was no internal conflict.

 

[iwatchus]

I only have two stories which could be strokers. I chose my very first story.

The Final Bet

A woman, invited to a blind date at a poker party, bets exposing herself and giving oral sex against her blind date. She loses (spoiler) and they end up having sex on the table in front of her co-worker.

Why its a stroker: It's short and everything is a build-up to the sex scene.

Why it's not: Everything is from the perspective of the co-worker's husband, who also watches the final scene. It became simple character development for a long series (another 312K words).

My opinion: It is a stroker. (albeit a poorly written one) It is a voyeur stroker so being in the head of the man feeds into that. It ends up being kind of the opening scene for Indiana Jones,

 

[Erozetta]

Collars and Cravings

I have a few that are definitely strokers, but this is one I'm on the fence about.

It's a short story told in a faux 2nd person pov, one character is telling the other her fantasy in a "you" fashion, but not addressing the reader. It lays out the dynamic between two people, but never actually says who they are to one another, just that she's definitely not his wife. There's no growth, just fulfilment based on being sexually available in line with using colored collars to communicate needs and desires.

Reason it might be: Every aspect of it is geared towards sex between the two characters.

Reason it might not be: The internal thoughts are extensive so characterization is playing a strong role in the story even if the plot is simply "Let's play."

 

[Bamagan]

Accessibility Compliance
A first-person narrator accidentally becomes voyeur to a sexting conversation and explicit pictures sent between two strangers. They get so turned on that they need to sneak away to the office bathroom to get some relief, but complications arise!

It might be a stroker because it's fairly short (5k words), it kind of starts in media res, it plays with some semi-taboo topics, and it ends in a pair of messy orgasms...

It might NOT be a stroker because it doesn't actually involve any penetrative sex, and in fact doesn't even involve any characters physically touching at all. Also the central conceit of the story involves looking at HTML code

My thoughts: I think it's not a stroker, my intention when writing it was to fulfill an intellectual writing challenge, and as it developed it also became strangely, awkwardly romantic. But... It's also an attempt at writing something dirty and naughty, and the MC is a bit of a horny creep in their own weird way

I think that story would qualify as a stroker. The events of the story matter less than the effect on the reader (at least in my opinion, which may be in the minority). Anyone whose turn-ons include voyeurism (in a broad sense of the term) is likely to get turned on by the situation described and identify with the narrator... and anyone reading their porn is likely to have that as a kink in the first place.

 

[GuiltyCowboy]

This one is written in the style of a specific type of magazine article, sometimes called 'A Life in the Day'.

It's written by the main character, an attractive young man who has an unusual job: he's been employed by a Michelin-starred restaurant in NYC to masturbate in front of the customers. It's written in a deliberately realistic, journalistic tone and it's around 3 Lit pages long.

Why it's a stoker:
Because it focuses entirely on one very particular sexual dynamic, which is the transgression of masturbating in public. That's also why I put it in the fetish category, though it's not strongly 'fetishistic', if you know what I mean. The gag is that he's treated in a similar way to how people treat fine wine. There's lots of detail about masturbation and how hot it is to orgasm in front of people and the final moments are, erm, climactic.

Why it's not a stroker:
The vast majority of the story isn't describing any action or building any sexual tension or constructing a particular scene. Colleagues and customers are mentioned but they're mentioned in an off-hand way; in a stroker they'd probably quickly become embroiled in a sex scene. It's not a story, though; it's more like an interview or a discussion.

Cumming in the Restaurant

 

[Comshaw]

Alrighty, I'll play.
This one: 12 Days of Christmas

Why it's a stroker:
Bart spends the 12 days of Christmas stumbling from one sexual situation to the next, discovering just how many of the neighborhood females are horny and will have sex with him. They include a hot Latina, a shy, chubby woman and an angry, frustrated mom. It culminates with a nice Christmas present under his tree.

Why it may not be a stroker:
It has a storyline: his wife has served him with divorce papers as well as an unwarranted restraining order to keep him away from his kids for the holidays. He also gets a letter from his employer informing him the position he held has been eliminated at the company where he worked. He assumes he will be spending the holidays unemployed and alone. Until the stroker part of the story kicks in.

Actually, I like to categorize it as a stroker with a storyline. And at around 35,000 words (10 Lit pages), it damn sure ain't no quicky.


Comshaw

 

[SmilingLez]

https://www.literotica.com/p/tongue-meet-flesh

https://www.literotica.com/p/medium-rare

Short proses

 

[GuiltyCowboy]

Accessibility Compliance
A first-person narrator accidentally becomes voyeur to a sexting conversation and explicit pictures sent between two strangers. They get so turned on that they need to sneak away to the office bathroom to get some relief, but complications arise!

It might be a stroker because it's fairly short (5k words), it kind of starts in media res, it plays with some semi-taboo topics, and it ends in a pair of messy orgasms...

It might NOT be a stroker because it doesn't actually involve any penetrative sex, and in fact doesn't even involve any characters physically touching at all. Also the central conceit of the story involves looking at HTML code

My thoughts: I think it's not a stroker, my intention when writing it was to fulfill an intellectual writing challenge, and as it developed it also became strangely, awkwardly romantic. But... It's also an attempt at writing something dirty and naughty, and the MC is a bit of a horny creep in their own weird way

I’m here to say that’s a stroker. In my book at least. Single situation, revolves entirely around a sexual connection - with a nice silver-lining of romance. The HTML stuff is pure MacGuffin.

 

[XerXesXu]

Sonya's Plan
750 words.

Synopsis: Gurl meets boy, and boy meats gurl.

Stroker? Because it involves seduction and sex.

Not a stroker? Because too few people suffer from premature ejaculation.

 

[StillStunned]

I don't think it's a stroker. I think the inner dialogue between Jessica an Yuliya drove the story. It was a better story with the sex, but it would have been a good story if the massage stopped where Tammy expected it to. You could not say the same thing with the story if there was no internal conflict.

In another thread I suggested that one way to decide whether or not a story is a stroker is to ask the question: if you censor out the sex, how much story remains?

In the case of "Tammy, Jessica, Yuliya", I don't think it would be much. "Massage therapist encounters her childhood bully and has feelings." The sex is what gives Jessica/Yuliya her closure, and what makes Tammy get in touch later. The inner dialogue is what gives the sex its depth, but without it there would still be a story: "Massage therapist seduces her client."

But it's definitely one of those stories that straddles the line, and I love that there are arguments to be made for both sides.

 

[StillStunned]

https://www.literotica.com/p/tongue-meet-flesh

https://www.literotica.com/p/medium-rare

Short proses

Are they strokers? Why, or why not?

 

[Actingup]

Accessibility Compliance
It might NOT be a stroker because it doesn't actually involve any penetrative sex, and in fact doesn't even involve any characters physically touching at all. Also the central conceit of the story involves looking at HTML code

You putting HTML code in a story does not not disqualify it from being a stroker. It's hot, hot, hot.

Okay, my turn:
Monsoon Coming, 17K words
Synopsis: 6 university students arrive in Darwin, northern Australia to do some housesitting. Naturally, the room that the three guys were going to share is flood and mould-affected, and they have to rearrange their plans. They then go touring around the attractions of the region, and there's a different variation of 'just one bed' every night. Mayhem ensues. It was great fun to write, and it has a long-payoff joke that I'm very proud of and that demonstrates my enormous respect for redheads.

Why it might be a stroker: see above. MF, FFM, FF, MFM, and lots of it. Different sex virtually every night. A swimming pool with topless / nude 20-somethings. A darts competition. A nightclub scene.

Why I don't think it's a stroker: The first guy to get lucky is a Taiwanese geek who has just performed Vivaldi on violin in front of his appreciative friends. There's a museum visit, a trip to an outback aboriginal arts centre, a discussion of indigenous disadvantage (one reader called it 'wokey' ). The threesomes take place inside a giant crocodile hotel. Our redhead has to wear sunscreen and a hat, and that's not sexy. They have to clean up mould. There's a long scene about cooking a Malaysian Beef Rendang, which although divine is not a quick payoff. The guys are made to wear rubbers. There's a mock courtroom scene. And, most importantly, I got this really lovely comment (and some others along the same lines):

....there was the sex, quite deliciously described by the smart, horny but sensible narrator and begun with women being fully in charge. This made for a truly modern shift of the power dynamic, where young women own their sexuality and choice and young men attend to being good partners...

My verdict: Not a stroker.

 

[StillStunned]

Another of mine: Not A Soul

Synopsis: The security team of a spaceship are sent to find out what's happened to the scientists on board a remote space laboratory. They find most of them dead, and naked. It turns out that there's a shapeshifting vampire from another dimension on board that stalks and seduces the newcomers.

Why it might be a stroker: There are several sex scenes, including a couple of blow job scenes (M/F and M/T) and a MFM threesome while watching some FF action.

Why it might not be a stroker: It's dark, and the sex serves the plot.

My opinion: Not a stroker. Censoring out the sex would leave the basic plot intact.

 

[GuiltyCowboy]

My story is Tammy, Jessica, Yuliya. A massage therapist finds herself facing her childhood bully as her newest client. The childhood bully who was her first kiss, but who betrayed her the following day and turned all their friends against her. Jessica (going by Yuliya) has to decide how far she'll go to take revenge on the naked Tammy.

Why it might be stroker: It's basically a sex story. Naked massage client. Taking advantage of her and seducing her to have her first lesbian sex.

Why it might not be a stroker: Jessica/Yuliya is conflicted. Much of the story takes place inside her mind. At the end of the story she's not the same person anymore, nor is Tammy.

My personal thoughts: It's a stroker. The sex is what drives the story. The internal conflict just makes it spicier.

This one is also definitely a stroker, for me. Ok, it might have one arm leaning somewhat nonchalantly against the fence but it’s not on the fence. Not straddling it.

It’s a stroker because it’s a one off situation which revolves around a sexual connection.

The characters have a past and, while that might give the impression of it being somewhat plot-driven, that would be misleading: that past is more about determining their characters and their relationship dynamic in this situation. And that past is also of a sexual nature.

If I may, I’d suggest there’s a little tell in the way you start out the story that you know it’s a stroker: your second sentence is extremely efficient at setting up the situation. I’d guess you might have given yourself a little more luxury in setting up the situation if you didn’t intend it to be a stroker.

 

[iwatchus]

Well, since OP seems to have approved double dipping. Fantasia

This is the first of four (very short, 3.5K each) stories in the series. A grieving widower is told about a place to get some relief. Turns out to have doors into magical worlds. He chooses a meadow scene, where a young maiden is waiting and they have sex, lots of sex. Like a new act every 700 words or so. I wrote it because I needed something light and fluffy to write.

Why it's a stroker: There is almost nothing in the story that isn't sex. At least for the first three parts, the fourth has no sex.

Why it's not: There is a story arc that is meaningful between the visits to the magical land.

My opinion: Not a stroker, although it's close. Other than one major plot point I will not spoil, the story could be rewritten with them sitting under the tree talking the whole time. That would not fundamentally change the story or the story arc. He could still fall in love and become obsessed with her.

 

[SmilingLez]

Are they strokers? Why, or why not?

I think they are dead center, which is why I posted the links., so not sure. Full disclosure - I have never masterbated to words on a page, not a kink of mine.

 

[Statius]

I think they are dead center, which is why I posted the links., so not sure. Full disclosure - I have never masterbated to words on a page, not a kink of mine.

Me neither . Fun writing it tho