Let's get something straight about Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization

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Dobbs v JWHO isn't really about abortion rights. Oh, a large majority of people in the US think it is, and everyone is stirred up about it. But it's really a Trojan Horse holding a power grab that is being hidden in plain sight.

Let's remember WHAT RIGHT allowed women to have abortions. It was a RIGHT TO PRIVACY. That means SCOTUS didn't overturn an abortion law. Sure, the concept was the catalyst, and a lighting rod at that. But what Roe v Wade really did was uphold our individual right to non-disclosure. It is about your right to tell busybodies to get their nose the hell out of your business.

Practically, in today's world, we sign away the right all the time. If we want to have an insurance company pay for medical reimbursement, we have to explicitly give them permission to see our medical records. We had a RIGHT TO PRIVACY. Granted, the words were really tiny and very lawyerly and when we're in an ER, we'll sign almost anything to get our issues dealt with fast. So we sign away our right. It's pro forma. BUT it has to be done. WE have to give permission.

Same goes with playing that game on FaceBook. You have to agree to give Zuckerberg or the creator of the game access. Sometimes it's a little and sometimes it's a lot, but no one develops a product and gives it away for free. You agree to give them a valuable commodity otherwise you don't get to play. And companies like Cambridge Analytica were very smart in giving you a little bit, because they knew you weren't going to read the fine print - and you agreed to give them access to a LOT of information that they used for all kinds of things. Completely legal and very smart. But they can't get information on you without your consent - your right to privacy protects you, even on the online platform.

How many people here hide being here? And you can within the terms Laurel and company had you agree to when you got a login.

Same thing why law enforcement has to prove probable cause. They don't get to search your trunk on a traffic stop if they can't prove they have a reason to. They ASK if they can see your trunk. Technically, you're allowed to push back. You can ask why, you can ask why it's germane to a traffic stop, you can say no. They're really good at intimidation and making you think you're in the wrong for not giving them what they ask for. But next time, be aware - will they ask you? or Will they tell you? Three months ago, they would have had to ask. Now? they may not have to...

Because now, SCOTUS has determined that any right not expressly contained in the Constitution does not exist. A law must be expressly written to give you that right.

So this whole lightning rod issue of Abortion Rights is only a cover for allowing whoever is in power in whatever government has jurisdiction where you live to enter your life without your consent.

So if there is no law that expressly says you have a right to keep law enforcement out of your house, out of your computer, out of your medical records – Tough darts. SCOTUS has ruled that your Right to Privacy does not exist.

And that's for everyone.


Chew on that for a while why you wonder why women hate babies. It’s not really about babies at all.
 
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And that is why any right (contraception, same sex marriage, interracial marriage) which has been assumed by previous rulings are on the chopping block.
 
And that is why any right (contraception, same sex marriage, interracial marriage) which has been assumed by previous rulings are on the chopping block.

Hell, the whole hub bub about having a right to decide your individual health by wearing or not wearing a mask - gone. So if the Feds decided everyone had to wear masks - guess what? You gotta wear a mask. Case closed.

Stuff your privilege.
 
Hell, the whole hub bub about having a right to decide your individual health by wearing or not wearing a mask - gone. So if the Feds decided everyone had to wear masks - guess what? You gotta wear a mask. Case closed.

Stuff your privilege.
Good deflection
 
Jesus Christ! The masks again?

If a serious bug hits us we are done! The rest of the the world can move into a country as if God got it ready for them

Oh? God already did that once

Well, history will repeat itself
 
Far easier for certain States to just form a new country. And then build a b8g beautiful wall and have the US pay for it.
 
Dobbs v JWHO isn't really about abortion rights. Oh, a large majority of people in the US think it is, and everyone is stirred up about it. But it's really a Trojan Horse holding a power grab that is being hidden in plain sight.

Let's remember WHAT RIGHT allowed women to have abortions. It was a RIGHT TO PRIVACY.
Dobbs is about "abortion" it was always about there never being a right to it in the penumbra of the 14th Amendment. The plain language of the 14th does not convey a right to privacy either. In fact, the Constitution does not state a right to privacy in any article or Amendment. The right to privacy is presumed but not specifically specified therein.
 
Dobbs is about "abortion" it was always about there never being a right to it in the penumbra of the 14th Amendment. The plain language of the 14th does not convey a right to privacy either. In fact, the Constitution does not state a right to privacy in any article or Amendment. The right to privacy is presumed but not specifically specified therein.

Did you actually made a point in that sentence?
 
Hell, the whole hub bub about having a right to decide your individual health by wearing or not wearing a mask - gone. So if the Feds decided everyone had to wear masks - guess what? You gotta wear a mask. Case closed.

Stuff your privilege.
wearing a mask wasn't about just protecting yourself... it was about protecting others. How strange people should have felt forced to wear one when any decent person would do so willingly, without any pressure to do so, in order to protect their friends, family, community. And 'guess what?" is disingenuous because people had the option NOT to wear one but then they were limiting their own ability to enter certain buildings or interact with people they might wish to.
 
I see you've met RG, whose username is amusing given his track record.
He's met you as well, but as far as I can tell, your username provides no hint or record of your digestive tract, the source of the gaseous emissions you call your posts.
 
I see you've met RG, whose username is amusing given his track record.
WHICH username? He has like ten of them.

Funny enough, that if all laws protecting personal freedom, freedom from unnecessary search and seizure, etc were eventually abolished by the court, than said multi-username troll would go on joyfully praising how the courts "Gave people their freedoms back." Such is the warped logic of a Russian forum troll...
 
^Vetteman, Counselor706, Rightguide, Sugardaddy1, KissedCherry, Score_Keeper, and at least one other version of "Vetteman" (for starters.) I suspect Renard Ruse and Shybiguy may also be him, as well.

Either way he has far more free time on his hands than brains or common sense.
 
The plain language of the 14th does not convey a right to privacy either.
Roe did not hold that it did. It was a combination of the 14th and other amendments.
In fact, the Constitution does not state a right to privacy in any article or Amendment. The right to privacy is presumed but not specifically specified therein.
That is because in the 18th century, "privacy" was a euphemism for the bathroom. If you'd asked Thomas Jefferson about "the right to privacy", he'd have thought you were talking about the right to pee. Even the slaves he owned had that right (sort of), so why put it in the constitution?
 
^Vetteman, Counselor706, Rightguide, Sugardaddy1, KissedCherry, Score_Keeper, and at least one other version of "Vetteman" (for starters.) I suspect Renard Ruse and Shybiguy may also be him, as well.

Either way he has far more free time on his hands than brains or common sense.
Counselor is Miles, renard is not vette nor is the current vetteman. RG is the old vette but his posts have all been frogged.
Why anyone thinks the current vette is him is beyond me. Its an obvious parody alt.
 
I see you've met RG, whose username is amusing given his track record.

There is always at least one, no matter the posting board one frequents.

Roe did not hold that it did. It was a combination of the 14th and other amendments.

That is because in the 18th century, "privacy" was a euphemism for the bathroom. If you'd asked Thomas Jefferson about "the right to privacy", he'd have thought you were talking about the right to pee. Even the slaves he owned had that right (sort of), so why put it in the constitution?

Why, indeed? Context is always essential to determining intent, as is determining who the authority having jurisdiction is. All three are necessary when it comes to interpretation. And these can always be juggled around when it comes to justifying that POV on interpretation has returned a decision either for or against, plus weather the decision stands.
 
I've known it was about privacy since day one. If I wanted cops in my bedroom I'd date some.
 
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