Legacy of Genghis Khan

[peachykeen]

I never knew that! That's interesting. Does anybody know Khan's real name?

Ricardo Montelban

 

[427cobra]

Ricardo Montelban

Sorry I meant Genghis Khan. For those that don't know it was (pardon the spelling and hyphens) Tim-o-jean.

 

[70/30]

I heard somewheres he invented Marco Polo. The original version was alright but I like the "fish outta water" rules cuz you can jump over people and switch sides of the pool without the blind man even knowing.

 

[Azwed]

I never knew that! That's interesting. Does anybody know Khan's real name?

My gf can trace her ancestery back to the town that still bears her last name. They were minor nobles and the lords of that town before their family fled in the late 1800's early 1900's.

Everyone in her family has some hint of asian type features. Mostly just eyes and jaw lines although her sister has naturaly dark olive type skin, with natural brownish-blonde hair so kind of strange, whlie the rest of the family is pale.

 

[427cobra]

My gf can trace her ancestery back to the town that still bears her last name. They were minor nobles and the lords of that town before their family fled in the late 1800's early 1900's.

Everyone in her family has some hint of asian type features. Mostly just eyes and jaw lines although her sister has naturaly dark olive type skin, with natural brownish-blonde hair so kind of strange, whlie the rest of the family is pale.

That's fascinating! I can only trace (so far) my family back to the original german settlers of Pennsylvainia or to the Hessian mercenaries who fought in the revolution.

 

[70/30]

I'm related to Francis Scott Key, that's prolly why I'm so patriotic and such a good musician cuz we have the same blood and all.

 

[Bob_Bytchin]

I'm related to Francis Scott Key, that's prolly why I'm so patriotic and such a good musician cuz we have the same blood and all.

Francis Scott Key was a musician? I thought he was a surgeon who put the words of a poem he wrote to the tune of a drinking song.

 

[70/30]

Francis Scott Key was a musician? I thought he was a surgeon who put the words of a poem he wrote to the tune of a drinking song.

That's why we's family (Star Spangled Banner dipshit) and you're fornicating with a file cabinet. I bet you also didn't know he was a captain of a big boat, like I said its in the blood.

 

[427cobra]

That's why we's family (Star Spangled Banner dipshit) and you're fornicating with a file cabinet. I bet you also didn't know he was a captain of a big boat, like I said its in the blood.

Getting back on subject, Khan's legacy, like Alexander, Hannibal, and Ceasar, seems to be the fact that, that of a charasmatic and skilled captain, who could, would and did lead his forces to accomplish seemingly impossible tasks.

 

[Bob_Bytchin]

That's why we's family (Star Spangled Banner dipshit) and you're fornicating with a file cabinet. I bet you also didn't know he was a captain of a big boat, like I said its in the blood.

Chill with the hostility dude. I was just curious if he was also a musician. Yes, it was the Star Spangled Banner, and yes, I'm a patriot. My 7x great grandfather owned property across the road from where the "Shot Heard Round the World" was fired, and from what I've found out so far, he and his son were involved in some of the opening skirmishes in the Revolt. Yes, I too am related to patriots.

So anyways, I was just curious about Francis Scott Key. Is replying to me in a civil manner such a chore?

 

[Bob_Bytchin]

Getting back on subject, Khan's legacy, like Alexander, Hannibal, and Ceasar, seems to be the fact that, that of a charasmatic and skilled captain, who could, would and did lead his forces to accomplish seemingly impossible tasks.

Genghis definitely has quite a legacy. From what I read, Afghanistan was the country that most suffered his wrath.

 

[427cobra]

Genghis definitely has quite a legacy. From what I read, Afghanistan was the country that most suffered his wrath.

Some things never change. It does make you wonder what would have happened had he taken on the Romans?

 

[Olivianna]

Some things never change. It does make you wonder what would have happened had he taken on the Romans?

Well, with GK we're talking post-Roman Empire. And, in Mongol times it was a Muslim dynasty which stopped the westward expansion of the Mongols in the mid-13th c - the Mamluks of Egypt kicked boot-ay at Ayn Jalat and kept the Mongols at Baghdad.

 

[Bob_Bytchin]

Didn't Genghis also do a few raids on the Middle East? I think I remember reading something about his doing raids during one of the Crusades. Imagine how history would be different if he had defeated the Saracens.

 

[Olivianna]

Didn't Genghis also do a few raids on the Middle East? I think I remember reading something about his doing raids during one of the Crusades. Imagine how history would be different if he had defeated the Saracens.

The Mongol conquest of the 13th century (which much actually post-dates GK) really did wipe out a good portion of the Islamic world - from Persia to Baghdad (formally a major base of the caliphates). In time though GK's successors adopted Islam and became influential in instituting trade from East Asia to Europe (through the Pax Mongolica).

 

[427cobra]

Well, with GK we're talking post-Roman Empire. And, in Mongol times it was a Muslim dynasty which stopped the westward expansion of the Mongols in the mid-13th c - the Mamluks of Egypt kicked boot-ay at Ayn Jalat and kept the Mongols at Baghdad.

I'd forgotten most of that, all of it in fact.

 

[Bob_Bytchin]

The Mongol conquest of the 13th century (which much actually post-dates GK) really did wipe out a good portion of the Islamic world - from Persia to Baghdad (formally a major base of the caliphates). In time though GK's successors adopted Islam and became influential in instituting trade from East Asia to Europe (through the Pax Mongolica).

So that's two big religious shifts that changed everything. First was Constantine, then the Mongol's adopting Islam.

 

[70/30]

Chill with the hostility dude. I was just curious if he was also a musician. Yes, it was the Star Spangled Banner, and yes, I'm a patriot. My 7x great grandfather owned property across the road from where the "Shot Heard Round the World" was fired, and from what I've found out so far, he and his son were involved in some of the opening skirmishes in the Revolt. Yes, I too am related to patriots.

So anyways, I was just curious about Francis Scott Key. Is replying to me in a civil manner such a chore?

Big deal your grandfather owned a hotdog stand across the street from the Polo Grounds. Bobby Thompson hitting a homerun in '51 at the Polo Grounds is hardly in the same league as Francis Scott Key sailing a big boat and composing the national anthem of the world's greatest country while being attacked by the entire British Navy. Baseball's great and being a big fan is sometimes deemed as being a true American but get a clue and don't question my credentials cuz you can't live up to 'em.

 

[Bob_Bytchin]

Big deal your grandfather owned a hotdog stand across the street from the Polo Grounds. Bobby Thompson hitting a homerun in '51 at the Polo Grounds is hardly in the same league as Francis Scott Key sailing a big boat and composing the national anthem of the world's greatest country while being attacked by the entire British Navy. Baseball's great and being a big fan is sometimes deemed as being a true American but get a clue and don't question my credentials cuz you can't live up to 'em.

Damn dude, you need to re-read history.

He wasn't a captain on a ship, he was a prisoner on a ship held prisoner. Yes, he wrote the words, but they were actually the words of numerous people, paraphrased later, and then written to fit to the tune of an old English drinking song. And no, it wasn't the ENTIRE British Fleet. During the War of 1812, there were ships all up and down the coast, many in the Gulf of Mexico. Does "Old Hickory" ring a bell?

References to my family history are pointless. At least my family tree has branches.

** edited to change from prison ship to ship held prisoner.

 

[Weird Harold]

Damn dude, you need to re-read history.

Wouldn't that require him to actually read history first?

70/30's just yanking your chain, and you're encouraging him.

 

[Bob_Bytchin]

Wouldn't that require him to actually read history first?

70/30's just yanking your chain, and you're encouraging him.

You're right. I should know better.

 

[70/30]

Emphasizing that regular USA'ers don't know shit about history, even America's version. I realize that ya'll are getting hard and/or wet cuz you can type about smart shit with other dorks but stupid people are people too, deep down ya'll ain't no better cuz we all have blood, veins, and mashed up guts.

 

[peachykeen]

Emphasizing that regular USA'ers don't know shit about history, even America's version. I realize that ya'll are getting hard and/or wet cuz you can type about smart shit with other dorks but stupid people are people too, deep down ya'll ain't no better cuz we all have blood, veins, and mashed up guts.

dude...what are you smoking?

 

[70/30]

just trying to kill some threads, sure Bob is helping but even so it ain't easy considering people seem to actually care about the inventor of marco polo. Don't analyze it so much, it's a game that even the most braindead kid can understand.

 

[takingchances42]

Getting back on subject, Khan's legacy, like Alexander, Hannibal, and Ceasar, seems to be the fact that, that of a charasmatic and skilled captain, who could, would and did lead his forces to accomplish seemingly impossible tasks.

I wouldn't put either Hannibal or Caeser in the league of Ghengis Khan or Alexander. Though over the course of centuries, Rome did come to rival the conquests of Alexander.

The Legacy aspect is interesting in terms of how war and conquest did lead to peace and civilization in all three cases. The relative peace over a large area after Alexander did allow the rise of the Hellenistic civilization. Centuries of relative peace also allowed civilization to flourish over widespread areas after the Roman and Mongol conquests. Kind of an irony that brutal military conquests have led to so much beauty, art and prosperity in the extended good times that followed.

A case could also be made, in spite of the small current wars that have never stopped, that it is the Pax Americana of having a single large superpower that is allowing economies and standards of living currently to rise so fast in so many parts of the world.