Leaving marks

MaconJack said:
I love he thought of spanking or caining or whatever. I like to see the marks. I don't know if it's such a control thing with me or thought that this girl is getting of on me beating her. It really turns me on. And seeing those marks the next day gets me so hard. I knew this girl that liked it. She seemed to like anything that I did to her. I really got to spanking her one time but I stoped because I thought that it must really hurt. I suspose that if it really hurt she would have asked me to stop. When should you stop?

Only those involved can answer that question as pain is different for everyone, as is the ability for the bady to cope with it. Safewords are great, though a masochist and/or sub can resist the urge to use them even when it is needed. For that reason it becomes a matter of knowing your partner's body, reading the reactions, knowing if you are causing serious damage that might not be in the best interests of one or both of you.

Catalina :rose:
 
Let me second what Catalina said.

We broke in my tawse today. (I love it!!) Anyway, I called a stop before my pet did. I could see the marks, he couldn't. They were deeper and darker than he was accustomed to and I was concerned he was too caught up in the moment to really assess the pain. I'll see how he is in the morning and if he's ok, next time I'll go harder longer.

But as for the tawse, my gods, I love it! It fits my hand perfectly. I have arthritis and too small of a handle is difficult. I especially like the tapered ends, they have a lovely bite.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/slvrlily/viper.jpg
 
SCC v. RACK

Having been fortunate enough to be the aforementioned pet, I thought I would add a few thoughts, normally reserved for private correspondence but thought those thoughts may be of value to others who have posted on this thread. For the more experienced, the below will be of little value and it may read as too pedantic. With that disclaimer aside, I believe what is being discussed may be boiled down to two philosophies on BDSM. SCC - or safe sane and consensual, and RACK - risk awareness, consensual kink, are two perspectives, often portrayed as mutually exclusive. At the heart of SCC is the value and necessity of a safe-word. In contrast, RACK puts forward that a submissive in the hands of a, for her or him, commensurate Dominant, may well lack the capacity to call safe, or "yellow," when she or he probably should. As with most philosophies, I believe both have purpose and utility.

For me, a safe word is the ability to communicate to the Dominant that something is amiss in a very serious way, i.e. blood flow or some psychological wall has been breeched and I need to pull back and regroup. As a submissive, I personally consider it a failing on my part if play in and of itself requires I elicit a safe-word. Simply, I should have been more communicative with a "yellow," verbally or physically. That said, this is where RACK plays into the game and indeed, ultimately, responsibility falls on the dominant. Call it an epiphany of sorts, but I didn't get the distinction clearly until yesterday afternoon.

Could Mistress Lily, and I do hope she doesn't mind that address but I can't think of a better one in this venue, have elicited a safe word from me with a single stroke, without any question in my mind. If you don't get S/M, you won't get the following contrast. In my head, I could feel her arousal - something for which I'm thankful, and in turn her energy fueled me to desire more pain, to feel more of her energy. As a footnote, this dynamic is a polar opposite to those for whom a Dominant/Top is simple life-support for a whip, etc., i.e. SAMs. I've played that role as well, in the sense of masochism for it's own sake without the disrespectful component.

Lord, it is obvious my verbose nature has the best of me again, so I'll close and hope the above musings are of value to someone.
 
Silverlily said:
Let me second what Catalina said.

We broke in my tawse today. (I love it!!) Anyway, I called a stop before my pet did. I could see the marks, he couldn't. They were deeper and darker than he was accustomed to and I was concerned he was too caught up in the moment to really assess the pain. I'll see how he is in the morning and if he's ok, next time I'll go harder longer.

But as for the tawse, my gods, I love it! It fits my hand perfectly. I have arthritis and too small of a handle is difficult. I especially like the tapered ends, they have a lovely bite.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/slvrlily/viper.jpg

Ah, the viper! My Domme and many of my top friends own this toy and I can't say it's my favourite, but it certainly does leave marks (and screams). I have two larger, more "traditional" tawses' but neither have the bite that this sucker does.
 
schmerzgarten said:
Lord, it is obvious my verbose nature has the best of me again, so I'll close and hope the above musings are of value to someone.


Morning, sunshine!

Excellent, he lived. ;) Is it any small wonder I employ a gag? *grin*



serijules said:
Ah, the viper! My Domme and many of my top friends own this toy and I can't say it's my favourite, but it certainly does leave marks (and screams). I have two larger, more "traditional" tawses' but neither have the bite that this sucker does.


Lovely little beastie, isn't it?
 
Caning

Sandyb:

I assume by now you may have tried a cane. As you can read there is a whole realm of different experiences out there, from the terrible to the sublime.

I enjoy using a cane on a sub with good pain tolerance. But I only use it after warming her ass up for at least 20 minutes with other less effective devices (straps, paddles, etc.) to get the endorphins churning at a high rate. That way the pain/pleasure line is moved to the right of the curve and what would be excruciating pain becomes excruciating pleasure.

A mistress I visit (I think to be in a D/s relationship you have to experience both) literally broke her cane on my thighs 17 days ago and the last of the scabs came off last night in the shower. You can still see the healing cuts. I very much enjoyed the session but had to wear sweatpants at the gym instead of shorts.

A cane requires knowledge to use properly, make sure your master understands that before and not after he canes you.

Good luck.
 
Think our afternoon session has left me wanting more:)....a bump for those who might have something to contribute to this discussion.

Catalina:rose:
 
cane curious...

I've been thinking about introducing the cane recently..... I would like to thank everyone for their posts, ideas and guidance!! It's so nice to be surrounded by like minded folks! :D
 
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