Leahaven

[policywank]

It is interesting how control affects how many women feel about being lusted after.

To the extent that women don't like it when guys look at us in that way we typically say it is because we are being objectified. But I think that it is more about control. If we aren't in control we may feel vulnerable and disrespected. But it is a different story when we are in control. And in many cases whether or not we are in control is largely in our hands.

It isn't always as easy as it is with Robbie and Travis. But even outside of that controlled environment and as long as we are not in a situation where physical threat is a factor what happens is that if we become defensive or feel the need to explain ourselves we lose control, but if we own it unapologetically we maintain control.

 

[9to5]

I hope your getting Travis as excited as your getting Robbie its a great start to get him thinking of you.
Have you ever thought of flashing him somehow. maybe in a dress and accidently give him a glance

 

[LeaHaven]

It is interesting how control affects how many women feel about being lusted after.

To the extent that women don't like it when guys look at us in that way we typically say it is because we are being objectified. But I think that it is more about control. If we aren't in control we may feel vulnerable and disrespected. But it is a different story when we are in control. And in many cases whether or not we are in control is largely in our hands.

It isn't always as easy as it is with Robbie and Travis. But even outside of that controlled environment and as long as we are not in a situation where physical threat is a factor what happens is that if we become defensive or feel the need to explain ourselves we lose control, but if we own it unapologetically we maintain control.

Control or no control, I never want to be viewed as nothing more than an object.

 

[LeaHaven]

I hope your getting Travis as excited as your getting Robbie its a great start to get him thinking of you.
Have you ever thought of flashing him somehow. maybe in a dress and accidently give him a glance

Flashing a guy is probably outside of my comfort zone. But I appreciate the suggestion!

 

[old_hippy_46]

I absolutely agree with @policywank about this. When we decided to move our relationship into an FLR (I asked for it), I “confessed” my masturbation to my wife and asked for her help to stop. Why? Because, mostly, I believe that she should decide whether I deserve a release as a reward in the context of our FLR, but also I enjoy sustained arousal, know that I am not capable of handling this decision (because I was a compulsive masturbatory), and I want to submit to her.

I have not been in chastity, but I will not lie to her. In the beginning she would ask. I stop myself with the knowledge that I would feel horrible for breaking my promise to her, silently renewing my pledge of submission that my penis does not belong to me, and the knowledge that I will have to tell her if I am naughty. On the couple occasions that I spurted without permission, I did tell her and I was given most unpleasant consequences (which I deserved and I know we’re good for me).

I know that, for us, our FLR would not work if I was jerking off whenever I wanted. Her control of not only my orgasms but when and if I am allowed to worship her keeps me focused, motivated, and reinforces the power dynamic that I need. She is my Queen. “It” belongs to her, not to me.

I engage in cereal masturbation when my gf was with other guys fucking. I ended up being spent and could not perform when she was done with her date,
To solve the problem i asked to be locked in a cock cage to prevent me from masturbating. Having her in control of my pleasuring myself made a big change in our lives. She became mor dominate with me and I became more submissive, ultimately we both are very happy with the power shift

 

[LeaHaven]

I engage in cereal masturbation when my gf was with other guys fucking. I ended up being spent and could not perform when she was done with her date,
To solve the problem i asked to be locked in a cock cage to prevent me from masturbating. Having her in control of my pleasuring myself made a big change in our lives. She became mor dominate with me and I became more submissive, ultimately we both are very happy with the power shift

Does that mean you wear a cage all the time?

 

[9to5]

as for me I have been locked for one day now and before that it was 3 days.
being caged for 3 days in a row keeps you thinking and horny

 

[LeaHaven]

We went out for a little celebration last night since Travis landed a job. (If you are looking for a job, it seems hvac technicians are in high demand, at least around here.) Robbie had already started dinner, so we ate dinner here at the house, but the boys wanted to go out for ice cream. I did not think any ice cream places would be open in the middle of the winter, but they found one. It was so cold outside, and it felt colder in the ice cream parlor! So we went out to the car and sat in the parking lot. Travis and I sat in the back seat together to play Mario Kart. This is something that started last weekend when we were out running errands. I got in the backseat with Travis just to tease Robbie, but now it is not so much as a tease as it is to continue our Mario Kart challenge. It is funny to think I used to see Travis as an obnoxious kid, because now we get along really well.

Robbie endured an NCD last night. I loved it!

 

[LeaHaven]

as for me I have been locked for one day now and before that it was 3 days.
being caged for 3 days in a row keeps you thinking and horny

Robbie is still wearing his. Maybe I will go for 3 days this time.

 

[9to5]

Robbie is still wearing his. Maybe I will go for 3 days this time.

yes give it a try. im sure he might like it as much as I do. then maybe a day break being out of it

 

[LeaHaven]

I just noticed that under my username it says, "Virgin." I see some say "Literotica Guru," some say, "Experienced," and I see one on this page that says, "Exploring." How do you decide what to put there?

 

[JennyCapricorn]

I just noticed that under my username it says, "Virgin." I see some say "Literotica Guru," some say, "Experienced," and I see one on this page that says, "Exploring." How do you decide what to put there?

I settled on “Exploring” just because two years ago that’s what hubby and I were doing here. @genzsub quizzed me on what she should use for hers and we settled on “lesbian concubine”

Just pick something that feels right.

 

[9to5]

I just noticed that under my username it says, "Virgin." I see some say "Literotica Guru," some say, "Experienced," and I see one on this page that says, "Exploring." How do you decide what to put there?

mine just seemed to change as I post and reply to more

 

[9to5]

you might have answered this already, but with Robbie coming more under your control what are your plans for Travis?
as Im sure he is enjoying your leggings and maybe even masturbate thinking of them.
do you have an end goal for him? will he be like robbie? or you can be more open with your play with robbie in front of him

 

[naughty_stories]

Robbie is still wearing his. Maybe I will go for 3 days this time.

3 days at a minimum, and dress like you're ready for fun all weekend. Leggings.. short skirts...no bra or panties
And wear his key prominently

 

[cascadiabound]

I just noticed that under my username it says, "Virgin." I see some say "Literotica Guru," some say, "Experienced," and I see one on this page that says, "Exploring." How do you decide what to put there?

"Virgin", "experienced" and "guru" titles are based on your number of posts. Or at least it used to be tied to number of posts.

I think that users are given control to change that to a custom title with a much lower post count than in the past.

Go to your profile - to the editing functions. There is a place to add your own image (that function may also require a minimum # of posts) - that won't load immediately as it has to be approved by the site owners/moderators (often takes a week or more), and a place to add a custom title. You can change that at will and your new title change will appear immediately.

Pick something that feels right to you. It is character limited. "Holds the Key" or "Robbie's keyholder" or "Taking Charge" all occur to me based on your posts.

 

[LeaHaven]

you might have answered this already, but with Robbie coming more under your control what are your plans for Travis?
as Im sure he is enjoying your leggings and maybe even masturbate thinking of them.
do you have an end goal for him? will he be like robbie? or you can be more open with your play with robbie in front of him

9to5, I started to answer your questions, and my first inclination was to say, "I don't have any plans. I am making this up as I go." But then I wondered if that was true. Maybe I am making plans, but I don't know it. I'm not sure I can even explain.

Sometimes I get a comment or especially in a dm, and someone speaks directly to what I was thinking, not what I said. It is a little unnerving. It's like you people can see past my words and know what my actual thoughts are. And sometimes it is so weird because what someone says is exactly what I was thinking, but even I didn't know that's what I was thinking. It's like I don't even realize my own intentions until someone points them out!

When I started this thread, I told myself I would use it as an online diary. But i have not had the courage to do that. It is still very difficult for me to admit to the feelings and desires I have. I still can't even bring myself to write the p-word (for a woman's vagina). I once called it my "flower," because I could not say what everyone on here calls it. It's like I am trying to find some way to become a "bad girl," but I don't want to be seen as a bad girl.

I know all that must sound totally ridiculous, but it is the closest thing to a diary entry I have written since I started this thread.

Do I have any plans for Travis? I honestly don't know. Maybe I am subconsciously trying to move in that direction, but I don't know. Do I fantasize about certain things with Travis? Yes, but I am not sure I want to try to make those things happen. It is scary. It's like trying to decide if I want to jump off a cliff, but once I jump, there's nothing I can do to take it all back. And all those things I whispered to Robbie about Travis was me remembering the things I have learned on here, tossing them out, and seeing what sticks. As you know, Robbie does not directly talk about these things, so it takes a long time to try to figure out where his head is. Although, I must say, figuring out where his head is has been greatly accelerated thanks to the comments and suggestions I have gotten from here. Either way, I have to try stuff and see what works.

I know this is long. I am sorry. I know it probably does not answer your questions, but it is the best I can do for now. I feel like I am in a forest and there are paths leading in every direction. And I am afraid to make a mistake.

But none of this probably matters. Travis is already looking to move out. I will post that update right after I post this.

 

[LeaHaven]

Robbie and Travis came to visit me at work yesterday. Travis wanted to see where I work, and I think he was quite impressed. But he has never seen office space like that before. But then I am not sure he has ever seen office space at all. I introduced him to the people I work with, since they have heard about him. It was a nice visit.

After he and Robbie left, Erin came to me and told me that being the good friend she is, she would be willing to "take on the burden" so that Robbie and I could have a break. "It will be a difficult sacrifice on my part," she said, "but Travis can come live with me." Lol

Like I already said, Travis is a good looking boy.

BUT, when I got home, Robbie and Travis were talking about apartments. In fact, we are going with Travis to look at apartments today. I'll be honest, I was kind of disappointed to hear that Travis is ready to move out. Robbie said the same thing, and I wonder if maybe it is because of what happened the other night with me embarrassing him. In some ways I feel like Travis is moving too fast. He hasn't even received a paycheck yet! Also, the apartments he is looking at, he can't afford. I told him that, and we talked about how to budget, and I gave him some numbers based on his salary, but to him, his yearly salary is a big number. To be honest, it is barely above a living wage. The reality of the cost of living has not registered for him yet, but he has never lived on his own before. I know he is talking to his mom, so hopefully she will talk some sense into his head. Whatever. I will not let him sign a lease that is way over his head without putting up a fight. This (budgeting, finance, money management) is my area of expertise. I can't sit back and watch him get himself in over his head.

 

[9to5]

yes it does somewhat answer them. I guess you must just wait and see where it goes and how you feel at that moment. But keep robbie in mind and in the loop

 

[Artfan2]

... Erin came to me and told me that being the good friend she is, she would be willing to "take on the burden" so that Robbie and I could have a break. "It will be a difficult sacrifice on my part," she said, "but Travis can come live with me." Lol

Like I already said, Travis is a good looking boy.

BUT, when I got home, Robbie and Travis were talking about apartments. In fact, we are going with Travis to look at apartments today. I'll be honest, I was kind of disappointed to hear that Travis is ready to move out. Robbie said the same thing, and I wonder if maybe it is because of what happened the other night with me embarrassing him. In some ways I feel like Travis is moving too fast. He hasn't even received a paycheck yet! Also, the apartments he is looking at, he can't afford. I told him that, and we talked about how to budget, and I gave him some numbers based on his salary, but to him, his yearly salary is a big number. To be honest, it is barely above a living wage. The reality of the cost of living has not registered for him yet, but he has never lived on his own before. I know he is talking to his mom, so hopefully she will talk some sense into his head. Whatever. I will not let him sign a lease that is way over his head without putting up a fight. This (budgeting, finance, money management) is my area of expertise. I can't sit back and watch him get himself in over his head.

Erin sounds like a fun friend with a taste for adventure, I'm sure that she's been thinking of possible scenarios that would be exciting for her, and probably you too, friend that she is.

 

[LeaHaven]

It is a little after 5:00 AM. The boys are asleep, and it is quiet and dark in the house as I sit here in my office writing this post. It is cold outside, 28 degrees is what it shows on my phone, but it is warm in this house in more ways than one. It is warm with a whole new sense of closeness between 3 people that I am now becoming aware of.

The whole time we were out yesterday, looking at apartments, eating lunch, running errands, and just enjoying each other's company, I noticed that it was like Travis and I were the couple and Robbie was the third wheel. Travis and I walked together, we sat close together in the back seat of the car, we played around, flirted and joked with each other, and we discussed and tried to plan his situation. Robbie was always somewhere in the background. It was obvious that that was what he wanted, and so it quietly pushed Travis and I closer together. It was something we all wanted.

When Robbie and I got in bed last night, we laid down facing each other as we so often do. I reached over and tugged on his cage, and I softly said, "Did you have a good day?"

"I had an awesome day," he replied. "Did you have a good day?"

"I had an awesome day, couldn't you tell?"

"It seemed like it."

I kind of lifted the weight of his caged junk and said, "I liked knowing you were caged. I thought about it as you followed behind us." Robbie closed his eyes with a sigh, and I knew his cock was straining against the steel just as I had intended. "One more day, baby," I whispered. "Just make it through Sunday, and then I might let you cum."

Robbie nodded slowly with his eyes closed, as if he was enduring the most frustrating mix of torture and pleasure.

It was quiet for a while, and I nestled into my pillow to go to sleep. And then a thought occurred to me.

"Hey Robbie," I said.

"Yeah?"

"I think Travis likes me."

"You think?" he joked.

I chuckled and added, "I think he enjoyed being right up next to me all day."

"I think it's a real life fantasy he never saw coming."

"Hmm," I replied, "speaking of cumming, I bet he's jerking off right now."

"I bet he is too."

"I bet he's enjoying that," I said, gently moving the weight of Robbie's caged junk. "You know...getting to cum. Feeling that wonderful spasm of release."

Robbie closed his eyes again and sighed, "Fuck, Leah."

I put my face real close to Robbie's and whispered, "Maybe I need to cage the both of you."

I talked Travis out of moving out so soon. As it turned out, he was afraid he was overstaying his welcome and costing us too much money. I told him he needed to get on his feet before he starts looking to move out. I would prefer it if he could build some savings as a safety net before he moves out, but for now, we will take it a day at a time.

We will take everything one day at a time.

 

[sanjuinmood]

Slow but steady...you need him in the case!!! Don't you???

 

[LeaHaven]

Slow but steady...you need him in the case!!! Don't you???

It's nice to think about!

 

[9to5]

sounds like it could be fun for all. I do wonder if Travis would be willing to wear a cage for you too

 

[sanjuinmood]

It would be great to know how you finally cage him!!!!