kleptolagnia

[MsLinnet]

lust, after ALGOLAGNIA.] Psychiatry. The practice of achieving sexual arousal through stealing; the compulsive urge to steal for this purpose.

If any one has seen any story’s about this? Or has anyone any points of reference regarding this subject I would love to read about them.

Love Linnet

 

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[Chicklet]

This story would be hard for me to do, I think, and difficult to do right for anyone...

 

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[Axeltheswede]

I think I saw an example the other day. A woman in the produce section of Albies. She wasn't sizing up those cucumbers for a salad. And, I swear, she ripped off the one she finally settled on.

Seemed like she gave more than a passing glance to the eggplants on the way by. Think she was considering a move up?

 

[MsLinnet]

Axeltheswede

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(I don’t think its about that it the act of the theft that is the turn on) Original post

I don’t think it’s about the object stolen no mater what the phallic nature of it.

It the act of the theft that is the turn on I think.

has that resolve any confusion


Love Linnet:kiss

 

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[Tatewaki]

lust, after ALGOLAGNIA.] Psychiatry. The practice of achieving sexual arousal through stealing; the compulsive urge to steal for this purpose. A kleptophile by definition suffers from kleptolagnia.

If any one has seen any story’s about this? Or has anyone any points of reference regarding this subject I would love to read about them.

Love Linnet

Linnet;

The sites I went to pretty much all repeated the same info. Here is a compliation of the best. For story purposes it seems that kleptophilia might actually be the most interesting condition.

Kleptolagnia: sexuoerotic gratification produced by stealing [from Greek, kleptein, to steal + lagneia, lust]. See also kleptophilia.

Kleptomania: compulsive stealing, usually of objects that have symbolic significance but not intrinsic value to the thief [from Greek, kleptein, to steal + mania, madness].

Kleptophilia: a paraphilia of the marauding/predatory type in which sexuoerotic arousal and facilitation or attainment of orgasm are responsive to, and contingent on illicitly entering and stealing from the dwelling of a stranger or potential partner [from Greek, kleptein, to steal + philia]. A kleptophile may or may not also forcefully demand or steal sexual intercourse. There is no technical term for the reciprocal paraphilic condition of setting oneself up as the recipient of kleptophilic robbery by a stranger or an acquaintance. (adjective, kleptophilic): the condition in which a person is dependent on carrying out or fantasying the stealing of something in order to obtain erotic arousal and facilitate or achieve orgasm. See also kleptolagnia; kleptomania.

(From a cached page of a defunct Compuslive Disorder web page)

Kleptomania
Before photographs were available, relics of loved ones were commonly carried for luck. Whilst in the battlefield, soldiers have been reported as having about their person shoe-laces, rings, bracelets of hair feathers and garters from their loved ones. Men would often stop to kiss these relics and used them as lucky talismen. Ellis (1936) reported these trinkets were often worn about the genitals. The term thesauromania describes arousal from collecting articles belonging to women. Many experts believe there is a correlation between sexual dysfunction and stealing. According to Rossi (1990b) the term kleptolagnia was first used by Kierrnan (1917), a pioneer in sex psychology. Hephephilia described the behaviour of fetishists who had a compulsion to steal the item of their desire. Kleptophiles appear to enjoy stealing fetish items and will have an orgasm either while stealing or later whilst fondling them (McGuire, Carlisle and Young, 1965). Many retifists are reported to have stolen shoes from others. Some newspaper reports indicate retifists will accost their victims and then flee with their shoes. Often these actions are dismissed as aberrations but there is sufficient evidence to indicate this behaviour is reasonably common worldwide. Stekel (??? ) described this phenomenon where erotic collectors of fetishes sometimes commit robbery. He was asked as an expert witness in the trial of a man who had fallen upon a woman in a park at night and had commanded her to hand over her shoes and stockings. He took no notice of her money and jewels. In a Seattle newspaper (1978) a series of shoe snatching were reported. None of the women were physically harmed or threatened, and only the shoes they wore were stolen. Parade Magazine (September 9, 1979) also reported Japanese police had finally caught up with the notorious shoe thief of Tokyo. Over a period of 3.5 years he had been knocking women down and running off with their shoes. When the police found him they discovered 127 pairs of women's shoes. Not all fetishists steal, but according to Mason (1994), if a fetishist commits a crime it is most likely to be theft. These people are often good citizens who steal out of repressed or a complicated sex life. Although fetishism and stealing were noted by Krafft-Ebing (1886) it rarely brings the fetishist into contact with the law (Grubin, Gudjonsson, Gunn and West, 1993). A general understanding is fetishism is not associated with violence. Most authorities believe a fetishist who commits a violent criminal act is not driven solely by the desire to express or satisfy his fetishist urges, although expression of the disorder may be a feature in the offence. In cases where lust murderers have foot or shoe fetishisms, they usually suffer other paraphilias and psychological dysfunctions such as, personality disorders, or psychiatric illness. These are more likely to be the source of the violent act than fetishism, by itself. (Kunjukrishnan, Pawlak, Varan 1988).

I hope this helps!

-T

 

[Axeltheswede]

Would someone please jump in and translate "Mslinnetese" into English?

The way I see it, the cucumber thief got off once actually stealing that cuke, and again when she got home. At least I would like to think so.

 

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[MsLinnet]

I think I saw an example the other day. A woman in the produce section of Albies. She wasn't sizing up those cucumbers for a salad. And, I swear, she ripped off the one she finally settled on.

Seemed like she gave more than a passing glance to the eggplants on the way by. Think she was considering a move up?

you were obviously jealous you must like Vegtables

Axel the swede

Love Linnet

 

[Tatewaki]

Linnet;

Any good story ideas regarding Kleptophilia or Kleptolagnia make their way out of your mind and onto paper yet? It is a fascinating topic, and I'd like to see you have a go at it. If you want some help with it or want to brainstorm, post here or PM me.

Regards,

-T

 

[MsLinnet]

Linnet;

Any good story ideas regarding Kleptophilia or Kleptolagnia make their way out of your mind and onto paper yet? It is a fascinating topic, and I'd like to see you have a go at it. If you want some help with it or want to brainstorm, post here or PM me.

Regards,

-T

hay thanks i have kicked some ideas around the page but geting them to work in my mixed up head is hard enough geting them so some others would understand the story is a lot harder
Love Linnet

 

[Tatewaki]

hay thanks i have kicked some ideas around the page but geting them to work in my mixed up head is hard enough geting them so some others would understand the story is a lot harder
Love Linnet

Don't worry about that in the beginning. Write for you. Get your ideas out on paper. Make sure everything YOU want to see and read about is there. Only after that should you bother about legibility and clarity.

Anything can be edited and reworked, but first you need something to work with.

-T

 

[MsLinnet]

Don't worry about that in the beginning. Write for you. Get your ideas out on paper. Make sure everything YOU want to see and read about is there. Only after that should you bother about legibility and clarity.

Anything can be edited and reworked, but first you need something to work with.

-T

Thanks for the encouragement I will see what I can do.

Love Linnet

 

[Quasimodem]

Both Winston Graham's original novel, as well as Alfred Hitchcock's film version of "Marnie" were about kleptophilia.

But Marnie had more grandiose predilections. No cucumbers for her.

Marnie stole to purchase a horse to get off on.

 

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[MsLinnet]

Whoah...I can't believe I missed that one, lol. Marnie, huh? (Putting that on my list of stuff to read...)

Anyway, I knew a girl in high school who liked to go to the mall and steal lingerie. She would go into the dressing room and come out with it under her clothes. Her parents had a lot of money, she had a credit card in their name, she could have bought anything she wanted. But she liked to steal them.

Never really thought about it, but maybe she was getting off on it, lol...

Thank you for this information this has rekindled my interest in this idea for a story

Love Linnet

 

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[MsLinnet]

I think part of it was that she was kind of looking to get caught, too. She wasn't super careful about it, as I recall. I don't remember her ever getting caught, but I do remember one time we were followed by security and I told her I wasn't going to the mall with her anymore.

thanks that helps

love Linnet

 

[Quasimodem]

Klepto & Other Manias In the Movies.

Thought I would do a little research on the frequency of this topic in popular media.
So, I did a keyword search on IMDb.com.

Of the 14 keywords assigned to "Marnie".
I chose 5 psychiatric linked keywords and rated them by amount of references.

amnesia = 243 films including "Regarding Henry" (1991)
psychoanalysis = 68 films including "Spellbound" (1945)
trauma = 18 films including "In Country" (1989)
phobia = 14 films including "Arachnophobia" (1990)
kleptomania = 11 films including "Marnie" (1964)



Of the 11 under kleptomania:

1 from 1916
3 from the 1930's
1 from the 1940's
1 from 1964 (Marnie)
6 from the 1990's


This only measures popular films, of course,
but .........

 

[Shaq]

Wow...lol...of all the things that make my balls bulge stealin is not one of them....I guess the adrenaline and fear can be erotic to some though...

 

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[MsLinnet]

has any one ever pinched something for sexual pleasure.