Justin Timberlake - Jessica Beal - Scarlett Johanset - WTF!!!

[Guest]

starting mind numbing trivial thread--forgive me

This is why I know I write bogus stuff. When I write a story, I try to find some reason for the male and female characters to like one another.

But real life isn't that way. And I don't understand why women are attracted to the men they are.

To me, Justin Timberlake is to music, like a DMV clerk is to public service. He's competent, he produces something akin to music, some people might like it. He's a skinny, uninteresting guy, who could be any one of a million kids coming out of America's high schools after distingueshed service to their AV clubs and or chess clubs (in other words, he looks like the guys I hung out with).

So, why does he keep getting some of the nation's hottest woman? Jessica Beal, Scarlett Johansen, Cameron Diaz (okay, maybe not a good one for the list), Brittany Spears (when she was hot).

I mean, he's entitled to happiness. Maybe a female finalist of Idol would be a good match.

But all of these women??? WTF?


Maybe I'm just jealous. Maybe I should go write a fanfic of Justin, Scarlett, Jessica and an 18 year old Brittany shooting a personal porn while Cameron runs the camera.

 

[neonlyte]

starting mind numbing trivial thread--forgive me

This is why I know I write bogus stuff. When I write a story, I try to find some reason for the male and female characters to like one another.

But real life isn't that way. And I don't understand why women are attracted to the men they are.

To me, Justin Timberlake is to music, like a DMV clerk is to public service. He's competent, he produces something akin to music, some people might like it. He's a skinny, uninteresting guy, who could be any one of a million kids coming out of America's high schools after distingueshed service to their AV clubs and or chess clubs (in other words, he looks like the guys I hung out with).

So, why does he keep getting some of the nation's hottest woman? Jessica Beal, Scarlett Johansen, Cameron Diaz (okay, maybe not a good one for the list), Brittany Spears (when she was hot).

I mean, he's entitled to happiness. Maybe a female finalist of Idol would be a good match.

But all of these women??? WTF?


Maybe I'm just jealous. Maybe I should go write a fanfic of Justin, Scarlett, Jessica and an 18 year old Brittany shooting a personal porn while Cameron runs the camera.

Who are these people, Ted?

 

[S-Des]

Who are these people, Ted?

If you don't know who Jessica Biel & Scarlett Johansen are, you need to catch a couple of movies. *drool*

 

[TheeGoatPig]

Maybe I'm just jealous.

That about sums it up for me

 

[Guest]

If you don't know who Jessica Biel & Scarlett Johansen are, you need to catch a couple of movies. *drool*

Indeed.

Scarlett

Jessica

 

[S-Des]

I've got to give Justin his props...I liked him in Black Snake Moan (although SL Jackson & Christina Ricci were amazing!).

 

[Guest]

I've got to give Justin his props...I liked him in Black Snake Moan (although SL Jackson & Christina Ricci were amazing!).

I want to see that.

I've always liked Christina Ricci, but then I like the skinny little waiflike sexpots.

Hey, she could play Kiten in the AH Movie.

 

[S-Des]

I want to see that.

I've always liked Christina Ricci, but then I like the skinny little waiflike sexpots.

Hey, she could play Kiten in the AH Movie.

Umm....have you looked at her lately? She's not exactly small everywhere. *cough*

 

[Guest]

Umm....have you looked at her lately? She's not exactly small everywhere. *cough*

Are you saying Kiten is getting fat???

Come on, this doesn't look like a photo you'd taken of Kiten on one of your weekends?
http://aycu30.webshots.com/image/14909/2003123321091689353_rs.jpg

 

[kiten69]

Hey, she could play with Kiten in the AH Movie.

I fixed your post, dear Bare.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

I guess some like the "pretty boy" look. I don't know. Personally, I think that in a different age, most of the celebrities that would have dated him would have been men. He is the classic pretty boy. Not saying that he is gay, but then most pretty boys were bi, not gay. I wouldn't be surprised if there was that aspect to him.

Maybe a Lance Bass/Justin T story might be an idea? I admire Lance. It takes guts for a pop star with a wide female fan base who buy up his CDs to acknowledge his true sexuality.

Justin, on the other hand, still seems a pretty boy. He's nice and handsome, but I somehow have an easier time picturing as a closet bisexual boy-toy than as some "man's man". Now, there's no wrong in this, except that he should take more advantage of his appeal to both sexes and come out. And stop pretending that he is a "man's man".

Of course, if he is straight, there is some irony in defying the stereotypes. Lance is brawnier, but he is gay. Justin is not so brawny....well, it would be interesting, to remind people that being effeminate or androgynous doesn't make one gay. And being brawny doesn't make one straight.

I'm definitely not young or handsome, at least in my viewpoint. I have far more hair on my body than on my head and I'm bit on the hefty side. And I'm bi.

But, still....

Justin is such obvious M/M material.

 

[Guest]

I fixed your post, dear Bare.

I love Ricci. She delivered one of the best lines ever in "The Adam's Family"

Paraphrasing...

To a Brownie "Girl Scout cookies? Are they made from real girl scouts?"

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

I have thought of a Jessica Alba idea, but not yet. It involves a Canadian official of some sort. Thinking an MP from a wealthy family. The idea being that he has wealth and power, but no real fame.

Still wondering where to take the Connie Nielsen/Natalie Portman angle.

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

All this proves is - Movie personalities make Britney Spears IQ look Average

 

[cloudy]

Personally, I think that in a different age, most of the celebrities that would have dated him would have been men. He is the classic pretty boy. Not saying that he is gay, but then most pretty boys were bi, not gay. I wouldn't be surprised if there was that aspect to him.

WTF????

Sorry, sev, but since when can you determine someone's sexuality from their looks?

Whether he's straight, bi or gay, I don't care, but something like this coming from you surprises me.

eta: he's young, that's all. My oldest son is tall and thin, like Justin Timberlake. Both my brothers were tall and thin like that when they were young.

Making a guess about someone's sexuality from their physical appearance is just as bad as guessing their IQ from their appearance, or their political party, or whatever. It's just silly.

 

[Liar]

Can someone please explain the Scarlett Johansen thing for me? Where and how did she go from talented indie actress who would be described as "cute, but ordinary looknig", to suddenly become hailed as the no 1 Hollywood beauty icon?

Just goes to show that styling and marketing is what separates the 'unobtainable' from the rest of us.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

WTF????

Sorry, sev, but since when can you determine someone's sexuality from their looks?

Whether he's straight, bi or gay, I don't care, but something like this coming from you surprises me.

eta: he's young, that's all. My oldest son is tall and thin, like Justin Timberlake. Both my brothers were tall and thin like that when they were young.

Making a guess about someone's sexuality from their physical appearance is just as bad as guessing their IQ from their appearance, or their political party, or whatever. It's just silly.

Touche, Cloudy. It was actually a bit tongue-in-cheek, especially as I noted that there are many examples that contradict such a stereotype. But it was my initial impression, that's all. It's one of those moments where I was frankly admitting my own silly assumptions. Note that I admit that you're right about them being silly.

And you're also right that it's strange from me (being bi, but far from that effeminate cliche). But I figured that I should be honest about my biased assumptions.

An occasional negative consequence of reading too much about the ancient Greek practice of older man/younger man dynamics in sexual scenarios, I suppose. Which reminds me of what I was wondering before: how many of those young men did what they did with those older men because they wanted to, and how many because they were expected to do so? An occupational hazard for a historian, to fall into a pitfall of a stereotype (though not meant to be negative) based on historical precedent and customs (in this case, "Greek love"). Certain motifs that apply to another century don't here.

Though history can also provide one with examples of how modern stereotypes are wrong. The anti-gay bias regarding enlistment in the military is one case in point (that being that they are not capable of fighting as well as straight men or are somehow bad for morale or can't restrain themselves around straight men).

 

[cloudy]

Touche, Cloudy. It was actually a bit tongue-in-cheek, especially as I noted that there are many examples that contradict such a stereotype. But it was my initial impression, that's all. It's one of those moments where I was frankly admitting my own silly assumptions. Note that I admit that you're right about them being silly.

And you're also right that it's strange from me (being bi, but far from that effeminate cliche). But I figured that I should be honest about my biased assumptions.

An occasional negative consequence of reading too much about the ancient Greek practice of older man/younger man dynamics in sexual scenarios, I suppose. Which reminds me of what I was wondering before: how many of those young men did what they did with those older men because they wanted to, and how many because they were expected to do so? An occupational hazard for a historian, to fall into a pitfall of a stereotype (though not meant to be negative) based on historical precedent and customs (in this case, "Greek love"). Certain motifs that apply to another century don't here.

Though history can also provide one with examples of how modern stereotypes are wrong. The anti-gay bias regarding enlistment in the military is one case in point (that being that they are not capable of fighting as well as straight men or are somehow bad for morale or can't restrain themselves around straight men).

Those assumptions are the main reason Kelly and I get such a kick out of watching old westerns. A line spoken by an "Indian", such as "Me go now," (spoken with the appropriate "dignity," of course) will send us into fits of laughter that last all day, and usually we end up talking like that to each other for days afterwards.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

Those assumptions are the main reason Kelly and I get such a kick out of watching old westerns. A line spoken by an "Indian", such as "Me go now," (spoken with the appropriate "dignity," of course) will send us into fits of laughter that last all day, and usually we end up talking like that to each other for days afterwards.

Yeah, see that's what I need to remind me how silly such things are. They should have some NC-17 film that is basically soft-core gay porn, and use up all of the cliches to such an absurd degree about ancient Greek youths engaged in sex with older men....with the caveat that all actors and characters are at least 18, of course. That would probably drive it home to me.

Mind you, you already know that the cliches are false. But I also already know that about the other cliches. It's just a knee-jerk reaction that I have. But to see it satirized would have me in such stitches that I would be laughing too much to even think about stroking off.

It's one of those things where I know intellectually it's a false stereotype. But I have to remind myself on an emotional level by parodying the absurdity of the cliche of "Greek love". One must guard most carefully against emotional beliefs than intellectual ones. The mind can be liberated and enlightened much more easily than the heart.

 

[Stella_Omega]

If only we all were as "skinny" as Justin

Justin, on the other hand, still seems a pretty boy. He's nice and handsome, but I somehow have an easier time picturing as a closet bisexual boy-toy than as some "man's man". Now, there's no wrong in this, except that he should take more advantage of his appeal to both sexes and come out. And stop pretending that he is a "man's man".

"Man's Man" in the context of "Flaming heterosexual"....
Wouldn't you mean a "woman's man?"

I used to hang out with a very nice butch dyke, who, for some reason, felt that Sylvester Stallone was her best possible role model for manhood. She didn't get laid much.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

If only we all were as "skinny" as Justin

"Man's Man" in the context of "Flaming heterosexual"....
Wouldn't you mean a "woman's man?"

I used to hang out with a very nice butch dyke, who, for some reason, felt that Sylvester Stallone was her best possible role model for manhood. She didn't get laid much.

I know it's a complete cliche re "pretty boys".

And it just reminded me of an Aussie TV ad that showed a boy whose dad was afraid that if he played with dolls, he'd turn out gay. Well, years later, the boy has a very feminine bedroom with dolls....real, flesh-and-blood dolls, as in a pair of girlfriends.

The dad is still very macho....as are the male lovers he now has, hanging out in the kitchen in their camouflage semi-uniforms.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I know it's a complete cliche re "pretty boys".

And it just reminded me of an Aussie TV ad that showed a boy whose dad was afraid that if he played with dolls, he'd turn out gay. Well, years later, the boy has a very feminine bedroom with dolls....real, flesh-and-blood dolls, as in a pair of girlfriends.

The dad is still very macho....as are the male lovers he now has, hanging out in the kitchen in their camouflage semi-uniforms.

Hah! I like that!

I knew a mixed-race couple, who had a little boy the age of my little girl. The black mom was saying that she hoped her boy would be comfortable with his heritage on both sides of the family. I offered to make him a doll that matched his skin color-- something that the psychologists recommend. His father vetoed it, didn't want to risk that boy turning out gay...


Nah, it's just that term "Man's man" meaning a man who is not for men... one of those lovely turns of phrase. like "I could care less" when, in fact, you couldn't.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

Hah! I like that!

I knew a mixed-race couple, who had a little boy the age of my little girl. The black mom was saying that she hoped her boy would be comfortable with his heritage on both sides of the family. I offered to make him a doll that matched his skin color-- something that the psychologists recommend. His father vetoed it, didn't want to risk that boy turning out gay...


Nah, it's just that term "Man's man" meaning a man who is not for men... one of those lovely turns of phrase. like "I could care less" when, in fact, you couldn't.

English is often illogical, isn't it?

 

[3113]

So, why does he keep getting some of the nation's hottest woman? Jessica Beal, Scarlett Johansen, Cameron Diaz (okay, maybe not a good one for the list), Brittany Spears (when she was hot).

Actually, the answer to this question is quite simple. It's the same reason you often see musicians with models and/or why so many famous women marry their managers or bodyguards....Because when you're famous, you hang out with other famous people. Those are your peers, the ones who understand your lifestyle, the one at the same parties and restaurants and agent's offices.

Putting it another way: How is someone surrounded by paparazzi and fans clammoring for their autograph going to meet anyone who ISN'T equally famous? You, Ted, might be sexier, smarter, more talented than Justin and more worthy of being with super-hot women...but if you're not equally famous, not attending the same parties and gatherings, not friends with the same directors or in the same movies...you'll never meet Jessica, Scarlett, et al.

This is why guys like Justin end up with such women. They not only get the chance to meet and see such women at awards ceremonies, etc., BUT they're part of the same tribe. They understand these women's lifestyle, won't complain about the bodyguards or dealing with the photographers, about the movie schedule. These guys have that same, rarified lifestyle. So this is a good partnership. Anyone else would be an outsider, wouldn't understand and would likely be miserable.

Or do you feel being with such a hot woman (and you are assuming that sexy looks = good in bed *and* companionable) makes up for all the headaches of fame?

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

Actually, the answer to this question is quite simple. It's the same reason you often see musicians with models and/or why so many famous women marry their managers or bodyguards....Because when you're famous, you hang out with other famous people. Those are your peers, the ones who understand your lifestyle, the one at the same parties and restaurants and agent's offices.

Putting it another way: How is someone surrounded by paparazzi and fans clammoring for their autograph going to meet anyone who ISN'T equally famous? You, Ted, might be sexier, smarter, more talented than Justin and more worthy of being with super-hot women...but if you're not equally famous, not attending the same parties and gatherings, not friends with the same directors or in the same movies...you'll never meet Jessica, Scarlett, et al.

This is why guys like Justin end up with such women. They not only get the chance to meet and see such women at awards ceremonies, etc., BUT they're part of the same tribe. They understand these women's lifestyle, won't complain about the bodyguards or dealing with the photographers, about the movie schedule. These guys have that same, rarified lifestyle. So this is a good partnership. Anyone else would be an outsider, wouldn't understand and would likely be miserable.

Or do you feel being with such a hot woman (and you are assuming that sexy looks = good in bed *and* companionable) makes up for all the headaches of fame?

And just look at how the media treats obscure mates of famous folks. Like Julia Roberts' last hubby, whomever he was, and Kevin Federsomething.