joe manchin, closet deplorable

[Bud_Spencer]

Of course by feeling heat, you mean that she was literally being voted out of her party, while voting in favor of 90+% of the party's agenda, for objecting to the previous President's position that the election was fraudulent without proof and supporting overturning the result?

Yah..poor Manchin being criticized for not supporting the party's legislative agenda is totally the same thing.¯\(°_o)/¯

Oh, it was more than her getting the hard goodbye from the WYGOP, it was that we were all being so terribly mean to her for conserving conservatism by joining the far left in its psychotic jihad against all things Trump.

And now Manchin is getting the same treatment.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Remind me again how many times Bernie held a town hall in West Virginia? How many times he talk to residents of West Virginia?

Folks in West Virginia sign up for the military so they can shoot communists like Bernie.

 

[pecksniff]

. . . the far left in its psychotic jihad against all things Trump.

BBB ain't that.

 

[pecksniff]

Folks in West Virginia sign up for the military so they can shoot communists like Bernie.

Folks in West Virginia sign up for the military because it's an Appalachian tradition.

 

[ll74]

Oh, it was more than her getting the hard goodbye from the WYGOP, it was that we were all being so terribly mean to her for conserving conservatism by joining the far left in its psychotic jihad against all things Trump.

And now Manchin is getting the same treatment.

Whatever makes you feel better about yourself.

Manchin is being criticized...that's all. He won't be kicked out of the party. The President won't support a primary opponent. He won't be kicked off committees or stripped of leadership positions.

Nothing about it is the same. You're simply full of shit

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Joe is on
From Axios today.

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) on Monday blamed White House staff for the breakdown in negotiations over President Biden's Build Back Better agenda and doubled down on his commitment to tanking the bill.

Why it matters: One day after he sent the Democratic Party reeling by announcing he will not support the $1.7 trillion package, Manchin leaned further into his opposition to the bill, making clear he has no plans of reversing course.

"I just got to the wit's end," he said, adding that White House staff "drove some things and they put some things out that were absolutely inexcusable. They know what it is."

"Well, guess what? I'm from West Virginia. I'm not from where they're from, and they can just beat the living crap out of people and think they'll be submissive, period," Manchin said.
Manchin also said he made clear to Democratic leadership that he disagreed with its approach of treating legislation "as if you have 55 or 60 senators that are Democrats, and you can do whatever you want."

"I said, 'I'm not a Washington Democrat,'" Manchin told Kercheval.

The bottom line: Manchin made clear in his lengthy interview that he is far apart from the rest of the party when it comes to not only the Build Back Better package but on how far-reaching certain legislation can be.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

For those who still think BBB is going to be resurrected, Joe put that idea to rest.

“Manchin also said if Democrats want to try to tackle a smaller package, they would need to put new legislation through committees and hold hearings on the programs.”

In other words, start from Ground Zero with an entirely new bill. And if you think the child care tax credit will be a part of it, he had a few things to say about that too.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Maybe they can concentrate on stabilizing the social programs we already have. Wouldn't that be nice?

 

[butters]

Joe Manchin's position should provide impetus for the progressive wing of the Democratic Party to drive hard in getting out the Democratic vote in the next election and providing the administration with a safe majority for its legislation. There are more of "us' than of "them" and the "us" need to get off our asses and get out the vote. It remains to be seen whether this will happen. There really shouldn't be any reason to be talking about the Republicans taking Congress back in 2022 (even though this may be a reality). The Republicans have clearly shown they aren't in it to govern or provide anything to anyone but the superrich. And Machin doesn't seem to be in touch with the needs of most West Virginians.

this

as for manchin, when he makes a shit ton of money off coal and is backed by finances coming from anti-biden-agenda sources, he was never gonna play this straight. Oddly enough (not), his 'sudden' move came just a couple of days after closeted meetings with mitch mcturtleface, and to make that abrupt announcement on Fox news rather than pick up the call from the whitehouse? Guy's a cunt. Despite everything, manchin's being called on by the coal industry there to 'revisit' his thinking. his constituents need all the bill will provide...his arguments against some of it run into 'people will spend the extra child credit on drugs and stop working to go hunting'

no one person should have the kind of power this split house offers manchin to disrupt everything; immediately following his announcements, predictions for economic recovery fell. ALL of this works in mcconnell's favour.

 

[Cubantripod]

no one person should have the kind of power this split house offers manchin to disrupt everything; immediately following his announcements, predictions for economic recovery fell. ALL of this works in mcconnell's favour.

Manchin doesn't have any more power than anyone else. He's one of 51 votes against it. If you had an actual bill worth a damn and not some wish list you might get some help from across the isle like you got with the infrastructure bill.

 

[46n2]

Fucking moron (initial poster).

Go ahead. Perpetuate that term.

"Hillary called us a basket of deplorables!!"

Yeah, use it again and again you fucking jackass. Offer up ammunition.


Don't you get it? THOSE people - the basket - fucking hate your attitude. They bust their ass, they work hard. And it ain't good. Cuz they're dumb, for the most part. They cannot get ahead. And they sort of know they're stupid but when you point it OUT to them that way - "yer a deplorable", they get all jacked up. And THEY say FUCK YOU - eat my deplorable what-nots. Cuz there's more of MY dumb ass than there is yours!!

And guess what? They were right.

There's more of that than you.

So if YOU do not learn from your OWN more privileged mistakes?

Then what does that make you? Schmuck.

 

[GothTalk]

no one person should have the kind of power this split house offers manchin to disrupt everything; immediately following his announcements, predictions for economic recovery fell. ALL of this works in mcconnell's favour.

Butters has a problem with democracy when it doesn't go her way...... imgaine that.

 

[GothTalk]

Folks in West Virginia sign up for the military because it's an Appalachian tradition.

Shooting commies is still a very American tradition, for the most patriotic of course.

 

[KeithD]

Manchin doesn't have any more power than anyone else. He's one of 51 votes against it. If you had an actual bill worth a damn and not some wish list you might get some help from across the isle like you got with the infrastructure bill.

There's a good point in this. It isn't just Manchin. There are 50 Republican senators ignoring the needs of their constituents. Time for an intense campaign in their states pointing out what the bill does for the citizens of that state and that their Republican senators are deadbeats.

 

[GothTalk]

There's a good point in this. It isn't just Manchin

There are 50 Republican senators ignoring the needs of their constituents.

Not according to them and their constituents.

Democracy doesn't mean (D)'eez getting their way all the time however they want. It means being ok with other people disagreeing with you and dealing with it when they outnumber you.

Time for an intense campaign in their states pointing out what the bill does for the citizens of that state and that their Republican senators are deadbeats.

YES.... you'll have to actually sell the (R)'s on blowing trillions we don't have during times of inflation that are already crushing their wallets on "infrastructure" welfare programs.

Good luck with that.

 

[KeithD]

Not according to them and their constituents.

Democracy doesn't mean (D)'eez getting their way all the time however they want. It means being ok with other people disagreeing with you and dealing with it when they outnumber you.



YES.... you'll have to actually sell the (R)'s on blowing trillions we don't have during times of inflation that are already crushing their wallets on "infrastructure" welfare programs.

Because we know what you're selling, and we don't want it, do that shit in your states.

The Republicans blew billions to add money to billionaires' pockets, so, screw you on that point. And you don't have a handle on anyone's constituents, while it's obvious how the provisions of the bill will serve the citizens and the economy well. Fuckers like you only oppose it because your only mantra is "own the libs." You're too stupid to absorb your own self-interest.

 

[GothTalk]

The Republicans blew billions to add money to billionaires' pockets, so, screw you on that point.

"BUH BUHH BILLIONAIRES!!! SCREW YOU!!!!" doesn't dull the point even a tintsy intsy bitty bit or invalidate it in any way.

And you don't have a handle on anyone's constituents,

Says the guy having a hard time accepting the fact that all the social welfare that has NOTHING to do with infrastructure in the "infrastructure" bill was just too vile and disgusting of a lie for a few of the moderates in your party to swallow??

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while it's obvious how the provisions of the bill will serve the citizens and the economy well.

That's a nice opinion, others disagree and others still disagree with pumping an "infrastructure" bill with all sorts of social welfare and special pork for the cool kids.

Fuckers like you only oppose it because your only mantra is "own the libs."

I don't even consider you psychotic control freaks who are totally incapable of minding your own business and absolutely detest "freedumb" especially our civil liberties the way you do liberals.

So no.

I oppose it because I genuinely think the USA needs stability more than it needs the government throwing fuel on the inflation fire that isn't absolutely totally fucking necessary.

You're too stupid to absorb your own self-interest.

LOL I love this lie.

Tell me Keith...how is a bunch of social welfare for other people in places I don't live at my expense in my own self-interest?? Why is all that pork in my self interest as an upper middle class and rural resident in low and very low population states???

How EXACTLY does paying for day care for some other persons fuck trophy benefit my upper middle class retirement in rural Minnesota/Montana. Other than having less money for my family....which is not a benefit btw.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

The Republicans blew billions to add money to billionaires' pockets, so, screw you on that point. And you don't have a handle on anyone's constituents, while it's obvious how the provisions of the bill will serve the citizens and the economy well. Fuckers like you only oppose it because your only mantra is "own the libs." You're too stupid to absorb your own self-interest.

You seem upset.

 

[Dribble]

You seem upset.

Not at all. One step closer to the inevitable breakup of this country. We will move on...you will be left behind. Win win.

 

[GothTalk]

Not at all. One step closer to the inevitable breakup of this country. We will move on...you will be left behind. Win win.

Why break up the country??

Why not just move on as states???

Ohhh.... you don't actually buy you own "progressive" bullshit.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Not at all. One step closer to the inevitable breakup of this country. We will move on...you will be left behind. Win win.

Cool. We’re both celebrating the death of BBB.

 

[pecksniff]

Why break up the country??

Why not just move on as states???

The United States will never go back to the level of state autonomy that existed before the Civil War, or even to that which existed before the New Deal. Reagan talked the talk about a decentralized "New Federalism," but nothing good ever came of it and it was soon forgotten.