Japan's New Prime Minister

Never understood why people pretend being against immigration, whether legal or otherwise, is a problem.

The whole point of a country is it being for the resident people's culture and them deciding whether they'll tolerate letting others in or living there.

If my hippie neighbor wants to invite endless strangers to live in his house, hey, whatever floats your boat. But don't act like I'm a bad person because I'm not doing the same.

Good on Japan.
 
Never understood why people pretend being against immigration, whether legal or otherwise, is a problem.

The whole point of a country is it being for the resident people's culture and them deciding whether they'll tolerate letting others in or living there.

If my hippie neighbor wants to invite endless strangers to live in his house, hey, whatever floats your boat. But don't act like I'm a bad person because I'm not doing the same.

Good on Japan.

Myopic view that doesn’t translate over into the realities of an actual world.
 

You’re a deep now in the ‘ican paradox’ - when faced with facts you just repeat yourself over and over hoping your 1 thought becomes a truth.
When I posted this:

On page 41 of A Farwell to Alms by Gregory Clark there is a diagram that shows that from 1347 to 1450 the wages for English laborers and building laborers doubled. The reason was neither a strong labor movement nor a technological advance. The reason was bubonic plague. It killed nearly half of the English population.

With fewer people competing for jobs, wages rose. With fewer people buying stuff, prices declined.
As the standard of living for English laborers rose, more of them got married. They got married when they were younger. They had more kids. But it did not last. When the population rose, wages declined. Prices rose. By 1600 real wages for English laborers were where they were in 1347.
This is what Professor Clark calls “the Malthusian Trap.” When the population of a group of people rises, the standard of living declines.

A declining population in a country means that there is more of everything good to go around. The same is true in reverse.

You posted this:
Fuck you and fuck professor Clark as well if the premise of the working class living a sustainable life is reliant upon mass extinctions.

Is that your idea of a fact that somehow refutes what I posted earlier? :(o_O
 
The big picture means that fewer people means that there is more of everything good to go around.
Still, you're missing the big picture, fella. I'm not sure how to paint a better picture for you, but your ideal view is not brush-stroked with roses and daffodils.

Fewer people don’t mean more to share — it means fewer hands to keep the lights on. Japan has over a thousand towns that have effectively vanished since 2000, and nearly half of all municipalities are now “marginal villages,” with more than half the residents over 65. Young people have left for the cities, leaving aging farmers, shuttered schools, and crumbling infrastructure. Clinics close for lack of staff, roads and power lines fall into disrepair. That’s not abundance — it’s slow-motion collapse.

Historically, population decline has sometimes allowed societies to thrive — after the Black Death, surviving laborers in Europe had higher wages and more food per person, and Iceland survived famine-induced declines because farmland sufficed for fewer mouths. But those were small, simpler societies with abundant resources. Modern Japan, with urban density, complex infrastructure, and a massive elderly population, doesn’t have that luxury. Fewer people here create an impossible burden for the few young and healthy left.

Picture a young Japanese woman climbing a steep hill, a single bucket of water in her hands. Half has leaked away by the time she reaches the summit. Her elders need two full buckets; she and her family need three more. No matter how much effort she puts in, no matter how much resolve she has, she cannot deliver enough. The climb is endless, the burden unrelenting. This is not abundance. This is survival, measured in buckets that never reach their mark.
 
Still, you're missing the big picture, fella. I'm not sure how to paint a better picture for you, but your ideal view is not brush-stroked with roses and daffodils.

Fewer people don’t mean more to share — it means fewer hands to keep the lights on. Japan has over a thousand towns that have effectively vanished since 2000, and nearly half of all municipalities are now “marginal villages,” with more than half the residents over 65. Young people have left for the cities, leaving aging farmers, shuttered schools, and crumbling infrastructure. Clinics close for lack of staff, roads and power lines fall into disrepair. That’s not abundance — it’s slow-motion collapse.

Historically, population decline has sometimes allowed societies to thrive — after the Black Death, surviving laborers in Europe had higher wages and more food per person, and Iceland survived famine-induced declines because farmland sufficed for fewer mouths. But those were small, simpler societies with abundant resources. Modern Japan, with urban density, complex infrastructure, and a massive elderly population, doesn’t have that luxury. Fewer people here create an impossible burden for the few young and healthy left.

Picture a young Japanese woman climbing a steep hill, a single bucket of water in her hands. Half has leaked away by the time she reaches the summit. Her elders need two full buckets; she and her family need three more. No matter how much effort she puts in, no matter how much resolve she has, she cannot deliver enough. The climb is endless, the burden unrelenting. This is not abundance. This is survival, measured in buckets that never reach their mark.
Importing people who say they will murder you if you dont submit to their religion should be a dealbreaker dontcha think?
 
Importing people who say they will murder you if you dont submit to their religion should be a dealbreaker dontcha think?
Yep. If that were the case, I'd deny their entry in a heartbeat. :cool:

IFs are slippery. IF I had a quarter for every time I heard such an irrational argument, I'd be a... wealthy man! :D
 
Yep. If that were the case, I'd deny their entry in a heartbeat. :cool:

IFs are slippery. IF I had a quarter for every time I heard such an irrational argument, I'd be a... wealthy man! :D

So someone publicly proclaiming it openly in times square on the anniversary of a massacre their people engendered isnt enough for you?
 
So someone publicly proclaiming it openly in times square on the anniversary of a massacre their people engendered isnt enough for you?
I'm not a legal expert. I'm sure if it passed some legal standard for inciting something, he would have been arrested.

Was he?

If not, then I'm sure he is on someone's watch list. (y)

If you're asking for a personal perspective, that individual should be scrutinized for everything he says and does from now on, until he can be held accountable for a crime.
 
Still, you're missing the big picture, fella. I'm not sure how to paint a better picture for you, but your ideal view is not brush-stroked with roses and daffodils.

Fewer people don’t mean more to share — it means fewer hands to keep the lights on. Japan has over a thousand towns that have effectively vanished since 2000, and nearly half of all municipalities are now “marginal villages,” with more than half the residents over 65. Young people have left for the cities, leaving aging farmers, shuttered schools, and crumbling infrastructure. Clinics close for lack of staff, roads and power lines fall into disrepair. That’s not abundance — it’s slow-motion collapse.

Historically, population decline has sometimes allowed societies to thrive — after the Black Death, surviving laborers in Europe had higher wages and more food per person, and Iceland survived famine-induced declines because farmland sufficed for fewer mouths. But those were small, simpler societies with abundant resources. Modern Japan, with urban density, complex infrastructure, and a massive elderly population, doesn’t have that luxury. Fewer people here create an impossible burden for the few young and healthy left.

Picture a young Japanese woman climbing a steep hill, a single bucket of water in her hands. Half has leaked away by the time she reaches the summit. Her elders need two full buckets; she and her family need three more. No matter how much effort she puts in, no matter how much resolve she has, she cannot deliver enough. The climb is endless, the burden unrelenting. This is not abundance. This is survival, measured in buckets that never reach their mark.
Get back to me in ten years, and we will see who was right about the big picture.

Japan already has a homogeneous population and one of the highest life expectancies in the world. I have not read about old people living in poverty in Japan. Japan also has one of the highest IQ averages in the world, and one of the lowest crime rates. Will that continue of the Japanese open their doors to immigrants?

The evidence does not convince me that diversity is a strength. I think it is the main reason for the political polarization that has made it difficult for the U.S. government to achieve much.
 
So someone publicly proclaiming it openly in times square on the anniversary of a massacre their people engendered isnt enough for you?

Whatdafuk are you talking about and what does this have to do with Japan’s survivability?
 
Get back to me in ten years, and we will see who was right about the big picture.

Japan already has a homogeneous population and one of the highest life expectancies in the world. I have not read about old people living in poverty in Japan. Japan also has one of the highest IQ averages in the world, and one of the lowest crime rates. Will that continue of the Japanese open their doors to immigrants?

The evidence does not convince me that diversity is a strength. I think it is the main reason for the political polarization that has made it difficult for the U.S. government to achieve much.
Sorry Bubba, I've not got ten years to see how Japan turns out and get back with you. Ten years, in the larger scheme of things, isn't sufficient time to make such an assessment. I, however, find the following year a blessing if I get that far.

Darwin believed in diversity. Nature does also. It seems to have worked for thousands of years so far. ;)

Notes added:

Economists at Tohoku University established a countdown to national extinction, which projects that Japan will have only one remaining child in 4205.[17] These predictions prompted a pledge by Prime Minister Shinzō Abe to set a threshold for population decline at 100 million.[10][12]

Many elderly people live alone and isolated. Every year, thousands of deaths go unnoticed for days or even weeks, a modern phenomenon known as kodoku-shi (孤独死; "solitary death").[53] During the first half of 2024, the National Police Agency reported that 37,227 individuals living alone were found dead at home, with 70% of these being aged 65 and above, and nearly 4,000 bodies discovered more than a month after death, including 130 that remained unnoticed for at least a year.[54]
 
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Sorry Bubba, I've not got ten years to see how Japan turns out and get back with you. Ten years, in the larger scheme of things, isn't sufficient time to make such an assessment. I, however, find the following year a blessing if I get that far.

Darwin believed in diversity. Nature does also. It seems to have worked for thousands of years so far. ;)

Notes added:

Economists at Tohoku University established a countdown to national extinction, which projects that Japan will have only one remaining child in 4205.[17] These predictions prompted a pledge by Prime Minister Shinzō Abe to set a threshold for population decline at 100 million.[10][12]

Many elderly people live alone and isolated. Every year, thousands of deaths go unnoticed for days or even weeks, a modern phenomenon known as kodoku-shi (孤独死; "solitary death").[53] During the first half of 2024, the National Police Agency reported that 37,227 individuals living alone were found dead at home, with 70% of these being aged 65 and above, and nearly 4,000 bodies discovered more than a month after death, including 130 that remained unnoticed for at least a year.[54]
Darwin believed in survival of the fittest. He did not believe in biological equality.

The plight of these elderly people is tragic. Nevertheless, I do not believe they would be better off in a population overrun by demographics prone to violent crime.

Since moving to one of the most dangerous cities in the United States I have been mugged and nearly murdered. Those crimes were not committed by Japanese Americans.
 
Darwin believed in survival of the fittest. He did not believe in intrinsic equality.

The plight of these elderly people is tragic. Nevertheless, I do not believe they would be better off in a population overrun by demographics prone to violent crime.

Since moving to one of the most dangerous cities in the United States I have been mugged and nearly murdered. Those crimes were not committed by Japanese Americans.

Causation does not imply correlation.

Also, be happy I didn’t curse at your racist ass and your ‘prone to violence’ bullshit.
 
Sorry Bubba, I've not got ten years to see how Japan turns out and get back with you. Ten years, in the larger scheme of things, isn't sufficient time to make such an assessment. I, however, find the following year a blessing if I get that far.

Darwin believed in diversity. Nature does also. It seems to have worked for thousands of years so far. ;)

Notes added:

Economists at Tohoku University established a countdown to national extinction, which projects that Japan will have only one remaining child in 4205.[17] These predictions prompted a pledge by Prime Minister Shinzō Abe to set a threshold for population decline at 100 million.[10][12]

Many elderly people live alone and isolated. Every year, thousands of deaths go unnoticed for days or even weeks, a modern phenomenon known as kodoku-shi (孤独死; "solitary death").[53] During the first half of 2024, the National Police Agency reported that 37,227 individuals living alone were found dead at home, with 70% of these being aged 65 and above, and nearly 4,000 bodies discovered more than a month after death, including 130 that remained unnoticed for at least a year.[54]

Apologies, Dmallord, for stepping on your toes. I’m stepping away from this member and this thread. You’ve been handling this with a stoic patience that I do not have. I imagine you will, to your credit, continue to do so while this member just keeps repeating the tired ideology you’ve ably disputed.
 
Darwin believed in survival of the fittest. He did not believe in biological equality.

The plight of these elderly people is tragic. Nevertheless, I do not believe they would be better off in a population overrun by demographics prone to violent crime.

Since moving to one of the most dangerous cities in the United States I have been mugged and nearly murdered. Those crimes were not committed by Japanese Americans.
Darwin lacked the knowledge base we have available today regarding biologics.

No one would be better off in demographics prone to violence. Point taken.

We share some similar experiences: robbed at knife point, gun point for my truck. Shot... but that wasn't stateside, and not by Japanese. Fuck wars and those who bring them.
 
Causation does not imply correlation.

Also, be happy I didn’t curse at your racist ass and your ‘prone to violence’ bullshit.
Some people call me a racist. Other people call me a race traitor. I call myself a race realist.

Race realists believe that race is an important biological category, similar to sub species among animals. A person's race or race mixture can usually be determined by appearance, and always by DNA analysis.

The races differ in average characteristics beneficial to civilization.

These differences have evolved over a period of thousands of years in response to different population pressures, so they cannot be significantly altered by social welfare spending and social reform.

Ashkenazi Jews only required centuries to stand at the pinnacle of human evolution. Persecution and discrimination selected them for high IQ averages. I am not Jewish, by the way, or I would not praise Jews like I do.
 
Apologies, Dmallord, for stepping on your toes. I’m stepping away from this member and this thread. You’ve been handling this with a stoic patience that I do not have. I imagine you will, to your credit, continue to do so while this member just keeps repeating the tired ideology you’ve ably disputed.
If that is directed to me, I adhere to no ideology. I am amenable to facts and reasonable arguments presented with civility that seems to be alien to you. I appear to have hit one of your raw nerves. :eek:

I will apologize as soon as you apologize to me. :cool:
 
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Charles Murray and Professor J. Philippe Rushton have biological evidence not available to Darwin. They have arrived at similar conclusions.
I admire your persistence and find it different than the usual banter here.

Your idea of “race realism” gets tossed around as if it were grounded in science, but it’s really a modern coat of paint on an old belief system that genetics no longer supports. I'm sure you must be aware of that.

When the human genome was mapped, one clear result stood out: there’s very little genetic difference between so-called races. Roughly nine out of ten genetic variations occur within populations, not between them. The traits we use to define race — such as skin tone, hair type, and facial shape — are merely small surface adaptations to climate, not markers of intelligence or character.

That’s why claims that some races have traits “better suited to civilization” don’t hold up. Success and progress depend far more on education, nutrition, opportunity, and social stability — factors that change outcomes within a generation. If DNA were the cause, that wouldn’t happen in such relatively short time spans.

Names like Charles Murray and J. Philippe Rushton are sometimes cited as proof, but both men’s work has been widely rejected within the scientific community. Murray’s The Bell Curve was criticized for stretching IQ data while ignoring the social conditions behind it. Rushton’s theories linking race to intelligence and behavior relied on selective, outdated data and were funded by the Pioneer Fund, long associated with eugenic research. That background makes their conclusions deeply suspect, not to mention White Supremacists widely tout it as support.

The idea that Ashkenazi Jews were “selected” for higher intelligence falls into the same trap — speculation dressed as science. Their achievements are better explained by a strong cultural emphasis on literacy and education, not genetic destiny.

What’s puzzling is when someone well-read in theology and history — someone clearly capable of critical thought — holds tight to views that the rest of modern science has already moved past. The evidence about race and DNA isn’t hidden; it’s been established for decades. At some point, continuing to ignore that consensus becomes less about science and more about belief.
 
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