January 6th Punishments.

[colddiesel]

On the fourth anniversary of these events is it time to reflect on the adequacy or severity of the sentences handed down? I note that appeals have been rare.

Should a future President consider either clemency or a pardon for those convicted?

As an outsider(Scot long resident in Australia) the rule of law seems to have worked, albeit slowly, but the prison terms seem very harsh, excessive for most civilized nations, but normal for the USA. On the other hand restitution/fines have been extra-ordinarily modest.

 

[Bray123]

Not a single senior instigator of the insurrection has received even the smallest of punishments yet. Only the poor and ignorant; it was ever thus.

 

[Bn2f]

On the fourth anniversary of these events is it time to reflect on the adequacy or severity of the sentences handed down? I note that appeals have been rare.

Should a future President consider either clemency or a pardon for those convicted?

As an outsider(Scot long resident in Australia) the rule of law seems to have worked, albeit slowly, but the prison terms seem very harsh, excessive for most civilized nations, but normal for the USA. On the other hand restitution/fines have been extra-ordinarily modest.

Before answering, I need to know what makes you feel the sentencing has been harsh and excessive? Attempting to overthrow a government (treason, sedition, insurrection, assassination) usually gets a death sentence depending on the laws and form of government. From what limited resources I looked at, in Australia it warrants a trial with the sentence up to life in prison. Please enlighten me on your view of sentencing and a better understanding of Australian law.

 

[ll74]

On the fourth anniversary of these events is it time to reflect on the adequacy or severity of the sentences handed down? I note that appeals have been rare.

Should a future President consider either clemency or a pardon for those convicted?

As an outsider(Scot long resident in Australia) the rule of law seems to have worked, albeit slowly, but the prison terms seem very harsh, excessive for most civilized nations, but normal for the USA. On the other hand restitution/fines have been extra-ordinarily modest.

I don't believe a pardon is unacceptable, though it should be considered carefully. The Democrats have never called for pardons (at any level) for the riots during the Floyd protests.

 

[LLCox]

The only mention trump gives the insurgents is, "I din do nuffin"

 

[Bray123]

In the UK, the punishment for treason is life imprisonment. Until 1998 it was one of the very few offences that still had the death penalty; murder was taken off the list a long time ago.

Trump calls the prisoners 'hostages', which reveals his support & comfort under 14.3.

 

[jaF0]

but the prison terms seem very harsh,

If it were up to me, their US Citizenship would be stripped and they would be sent to an island penal colony in the Southern Hemisphere.

 

[YDB95]

The only mention trump gives the insurgents is, "I din do nuffin"

Except when he hired them to sing at his rally. (Yes, really.)

 

[Sean Renaud]

I don't believe a pardon is unacceptable, though it should be considered carefully. The Democrats have never called for pardons (at any level) for the riots during the Floyd protests.

The Floyd protests were not in any real way comparable to J6 though.

 

[Rightguide]

I don't believe a pardon is unacceptable, though it should be considered carefully. The Democrats have never called for pardons (at any level) for the riots during the Floyd protests.

That's because few were ever prosecuted and handed harsh punishment.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

That's because few were ever prosecuted and handed harsh punishment.

Yes,those 300 or so who were convicted is less than Jan 6th convictions. I agree....

https://apnews.com/article/records-rebut-claims-jan-6-rioters-55adf4d46aff57b91af2fdd3345dace8

Maybe try to research your claims first....

 

[YDB95]

Not to mention even if Reighguide were right and there were "few", that doesn't change the fact that the Dems aren't calling for pardons for any of them.

 

[RoryN]

the prison terms seem very harsh

They overran the Capitol building with a stated intent of "hanging" the Vice President. If any one of them had done that on an individual basis, they would have been shot and killed.

What should they get instead - a time-out?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

They overran the Capitol building with a stated intent of "hanging" the Vice President.

What should they get - a time-out?

If you ask rightguide or AJ, they'd say a medal.

 

[butters]

Washington Court of Appeals rules three civil suits being brought against him for inciting the violence on Jan 6th can proceed—the question of "immunity" not protecting him; having said that, their decision 'may be revisited' after SCOTUS comes to a conclusion. For now, though, they go forward.

In their ruling, the judges of the three-judge panel noted, “These appeals raise the same question that this court recently decided in Blassingame,” referring to a prior judgment that presidential immunity does not shield Trump from legal prosecution. This indicates that the court believes the merits of the cases against Trump are clear enough to bypass a full legal opinion.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...1&cvid=7d39357abb634278aaba4a3d25431295&ei=93